Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,12:57)Jesus did not say more glory.But the glory *He HAD* with the Father,before the world.The glory He had was doing God's will.Creating all things,for his pleasure.wakeup.No, Wakeup, he had that glory after he would complete his ministry to fulfill God's plan. It was a done deal.Jesus is not the creator, and neither…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2013,16:11)Why is it you guys are always studying, focused and afraid about the end time? If you believe the Bible shouldn't you embrace whatever is coming? Jesus said TODAY is enough for you to worry about but you waste your live in endless speculation if whatever happens is the WILL OF GOD then why not embrace it? If…[Read more]

Hi Mike:In response to your long post above, I would say nice try, Mike, but no, he did not say:Quote So John 17:5 tells us that Jesus indeed HAD glory before the world began, and asked to be glorified again with that same gloryThere is that seemingly insignificant little word “again” that you are trying to force into the text.And yes, he was…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:You say:Quote Marty.Just think; Only one can give life.Everything: including life is created by Him.He is the Word of God,before his birth.His name is Jesus after His birth.wakeup.This is what Jesus stated:Quote Jhn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 03 2014,22:46)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 03 2014,03:35)Well, let me see, God created Adam from the dust of the ground, and then he blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and Adam became a living soul, and then he caused Adam to be in a deep sleep, and took one of his ribs from his side and formed his wife, Eve.My mother and dad had…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 03 2014,22:34)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,05:33)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 01 2014,08:55)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,10:48)Marty Quote I am born of Adam's seed, but no He did not create me, He formed me in the womb from the sperm of Adam in the womb of my mother. did God created the process to procreate So he is not part of creation…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,15:16)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,07:14)Hi Mike:This is what the scriptures state:Quote Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 02 2014,11:48)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 01 2014,18:16)The Word was with God, but it does not say Jesus was with God or that the Word is a person.He said that He created every thing by Himself.Marty,You do well to acknowledge that the Word was WITH God.  Now tell me, was God truly “ALONE”, if something called “the Word” was WITH…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,17:07)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,11:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,06:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,04:04)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,02:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 02 2014,02:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,05:01)A question for GeneB.Please clarify.Who was melchisedek?Was he not a living being without…[Read more]

Hi Mike:This is what the scriptures state:Quote Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and madeDoes it state that he…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 02 2014,11:43)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 01 2014,11:41)I was born………. through my mom and dad, and so, yes, God alone created me, but that is not the issue.That is EXACTLY the issue, Marty.  So you agree that God, ALONE and BY HIMSELF, created YOU, right?  And you agree that, even though God did this act ALONE and BY H…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,06:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,04:04)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,02:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 02 2014,02:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,05:01)A question for GeneB.Please clarify.Who was melchisedek?Was he not a living being without beginning of life and no end of life?Was he not the king of salem(peace),and…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,06:50)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,04:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 29 2013,13:49)Hi Marty, Yes, Tertullian IS the one who coined the phrase “trinity”.  But that doesn't change the logic of his words that I quoted. Marty, did God,  ALONE and BY HIMSELF, create you? Mike:The question is whether Jesus was with him in s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 29 2013,13:49)Hi Marty, Yes, Tertullian IS the one who coined the phrase “trinity”.  But that doesn't change the logic of his words that I quoted. Marty, did God,  ALONE and BY HIMSELF, create you? Mike:The question is whether Jesus was with him in some pre-existent state, and God said he was alone when he created the h…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 01 2014,08:55)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,10:48)Marty Quote I am born of Adam's seed, but no He did not create me, He formed me in the womb from the sperm of Adam in the womb of my mother. did God created the process to procreate So he is not part of creation then?What is he then? Hi t8:I did not say I was not part of God's…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 01 2014,08:56)I have some questions for those that do not believe that Jesus was literally the firstborn of all creation.Who was the first to be with God?What type of being would the first to be with God be?What nature would the first being possess if there was no other thing or nature in existence, but God's own nature? Since the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:48)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2013,21:12)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:48)Marty Quote I am born of Adam's seed, but no He did not create me, He formed me in the womb from the sperm of Adam in the womb of my mother. did God created the process to procreate Yes, Pierre, please read what I have stated before…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,02:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 02 2014,02:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,05:01)A question for GeneB.Please clarify.Who was melchisedek?Was he not a living being without beginning of life and no end of life?Was he not the king of salem(peace),and righteousness?The high priest for ever?wakeup.Wakeup…….First of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,04:49)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2013,11:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,03:22)Read verse 24 that you quoted for that answer, Marty.  If Jesus was talking about the same kind of glory in verse 22 that he was talking about in verses 5 and 24, there would be no need for Jesus to hope they can be where he is, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,03:22)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 29 2013,11:58)Hi Mike:And so, where exactly does it say “that God gave him a greater glory than what he asked?Read my previous post to Gene for the answer.Quote (942767 @ Dec. 29 2013,11:58) And so, according to this scripture he has already given me the same glory that he gave to him…[Read more]