Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2014,12:35)Unlike you Marty,I have no personal preferences.  If the Bible taught that Jesus is the Most High God, I would accept that as truth.If the Bible taught that Jesus began his existence as a human being 2000 years ago, I would accept that as truth.But the Bible doesn't teach either of those things.You say that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2014,14:44)Also Gene, God saved us through Jesus while he was in the flesh (after he existed in the form of God and emptied himself). I don't think anyone is disputing that he was a man.What is disputed is that he came into existence 2000 years ago. We believe that he is the firstborn of all creation, that he existed before…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2014,06:30)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 12 2014,12:15)When Jesus said “I exist” he was referring to himself?Of course.John 14:9 King James Version Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?Do you see the words I bolded?  Do you know they are the same exact words that are in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2014,11:55)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2014,18:35)Yes, he did create all things through Jesus Christ.  Let's just leave it at that, Marty.  You and I and t8 all agree that ALL THINGS (including the heavens, the earth, and everything in them) were created by God and through Jesus.Now we're all speaking the scriptural truth o…[Read more]

HI Mike:You say:Quote What is the bigger sacrifice, Marty:1. You sacrifice that son you've already known and loved for 25 years?2. Or you adopt a child from China, one you haven't even gotten to know yet, and sacrifice him instead?See? Your understanding is that God did the latter. He just made a human being for the sole purpose of having him…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 13 2014,13:22)Yes Mike. They believe that God instantly created another human to save all humans. So now that they are together in Heaven, they are getting to know each other I suppose.The truth is, God created all things through Jesus Christ. This no one can deny who takes scripture seriously. Thus, it is fitting that God also…[Read more]

Mike:God had provide the sacrifice for the sins of the world because all men born of the sperm of man have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. There may have been those who were tortured or suffered all kinds of things from evil men, but they did not obey God without sin even unto death of the cross.God knew that a specific point in time…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2014,03:56)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 10 2014,10:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,14:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2014,20:29)And, Jesus explained what he meant by stating that “'before Abraham was 'I Am'”……….What happens to your doctrine if you use the correct English translation, Marty.What happens if you realize that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2014,04:13)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 10 2014,13:32)Hi Mike:It was a piece of cake for him?Quote Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.43 And there appeared an…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 12 2014,01:30)Wakeup, Wakeup, Wakeup,……. Let look at this again brother,   Thus saith the LORD the KING of ISRAEL, And “HIS” (ISRAEL'S) redeemer, the LORD of hosts, I am the first and the Last, and beside “ME” there is “NO” GOD. Wakeup, there you have it in a nut shell, if you would only believe that alone, it…[Read more]

Hi Mike:It was a piece of cake for him?Quote Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.44 And being in an agony he…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:You say:Quote But When God said;let us make man—,that was the Word speaking.*For all things are created by HIM*.Please read what you said here and then read the scripture in Genesis 1:26. It does not say that God spoke through anyone. It was He Himself that was speaking. And I have already given you scripture that states that He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,14:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2014,20:29)And, Jesus explained what he meant by stating that “'before Abraham was 'I Am'”……….What happens to your doctrine if you use the correct English translation, Marty.What happens if you realize that Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I have existed” ?Would THAT be enough to…[Read more]

T8:This is what I said.Quote I am one of God's creatures, and a son of God by the Spirit of adoption through Jesus Christ, my Lord, and He alone created Adam, but He did not create me as he did Adam.I am born of Adam's seed, but no He did not create me, He formed me in the womb from the sperm of Adam in the womb of my mother.You just quote the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2014,15:54)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 06 2014,22:24)Hi Pierre:In response to your post, the scriptures state:Quote Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:In response to your post, the scriptures state:Quote Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1:27 So God…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,06:50)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 02 2014,04:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 29 2013,13:49)Hi Marty, Yes, Tertullian IS the one who coined the phrase “trinity”.  But that doesn't change the logic of his words that I quoted. Marty, did God,  ALONE and BY HIMSELF, create you? Mike:The question is whether Jesus was with him in s…[Read more]

Hi Gene:All we can do is keep sharing the truth with them, and praying that God will reveal to them that it is the truth.Love in Christ,Marty

Hi Wakeup:It is Jesus who is coming in the cloud when the Father sends him.  He said no man knows the day or the hour of his coming.  It is only God his Father and our Father who knows .You say his name is “The Word of God”, but the scripture does not quite it like that, and there is a difference.  This is what the scripture states:Quote Rev 19…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2014,05:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 05 2014,08:56)Marty……….I have no problem with that , It is Jesus who is to have that “NAME” on Him. why because he will be “REPRESENTING” and “SPEAKING” GOD'S the FATHERS words to us.So why then can't Jesus be the one who “has that name on him” in John 1:1 and 1:14 – for that…[Read more]