942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2014,08:44)MartyQuote What God does have the foreknowledge of what He will do is one thing, and He does reveal to us in the scriptures what He will do at points in time in the earth, but what He will do is by His freedom to do so, and what he has for-seen that man will do is another.lets be clear I DO NOT BELIEVE GOD AS…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2014,11:41)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 25 2014,01:20)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2014,13:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2014,07:51)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2014,19:46)AGAIN TO ME WHEN GOD TOLD THE PROPHETS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE THIS IS NOT FORESEEN ,BECAUSE HE HIS NOT INVESTIGATE THE FUTURE BUT MAKE IT ,BIG…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
No, Pierre, God did not create evil. He created man with a freedom to obey Him or disobey Him. What God does have the foreknowledge of what He will do is one thing, and He does reveal to us in the scriptures what He will do at points in time in the earth, but what He will do is by His freedom to do so, and what he has for-seen that man will do i…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2014,13:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2014,07:51)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2014,19:46)AGAIN TO ME WHEN GOD TOLD THE PROPHETS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE THIS IS NOT FORESEEN ,BECAUSE HE HIS NOT INVESTIGATE THE FUTURE BUT MAKE IT ,BIG DIFFERENCE……….What about the things John himself was able to FORESEE in…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ Jan. 21 2014,06:43)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,08:36)Marty/Gene.Which one of my answers can be refuted?The Word/Jesus is the first and the last.(first in everything).TRUE.He created man; Let *US* make man in *OUR* image.His image and God's image. TRUE.He spoke to Adam,and He spoke to the prophets.And He spoke to the apostles.Now…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2014,05:18)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 19 2014,10:13)Yes, Mike, I said it was a stupid question…………Actually, it was an ingenious question, Marty.
It was designed to make your mind go through the following process:Q: Marty, would it make sense to say YOU were created THROUGH your grandchild?A. No Mike, not at al…[Read more]942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,08:36)Marty/Gene.Which one of my answers can be refuted?The Word/Jesus is the first and the last.(first in everything).TRUE.He created man; Let *US* make man in *OUR* image.His image and God's image. TRUE.He spoke to Adam,and He spoke to the prophets.And He spoke to the apostles.Now is he speaking to US through the…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Hi Pierre:Quote Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:Is that good enough for you?Love in Christ,Marty
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2014,07:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2014,18:33)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 17 2014,08:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2014,12:13)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2014,17:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2014,09:40)Do YOU suppose that you were created through your great, great grandson? YES or NO?And if “NO”, why not?Hi Mike:What does…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2014,07:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 17 2014,09:31)And what he said is, “before Abraham was “I exist”. He existed in the heart of the Father from the beginning, foreordained to be born into this world….Marty,I am truly happy to I know that you understand what those words mean in John 8:58. Jesus was indeed saying, “I e…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,17:24)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,01:59)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 19 2014,01:51)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2014,12:32)MartyQuote I believe that the “dia” “through” means that “Jesus is the “ground reason that God made the worlds” because it is through him that God planned to reconcile all of humanity to Himself,…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2014,12:32)MartyQuote I believe that the “dia” “through” means that “Jesus is the “ground reason that God made the worlds” because it is through him that God planned to reconcile all of humanity to Himself, and this scripture states that “he is God's Heir”.this would mean that God as plan that men must fall BEFORE HE…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Hi wakeup:You say, that it is not working, and so, I don't know what else to say, if the scriptures can't convince you, I am wasting my time discussing this with you. It is not my word or my opinion that matters, but what the scriptures state.Teach what you like, both you and I are responsible to God for what we teach.Love in Christ,Marty
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Hi Wakup:Quote Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes Quote Hbr 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hbr 1:2 Hath in these…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2014,12:16)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2014,17:45)Hi Mike:The context has to do with the Jews accusing him of saying that he had seen Abraham, and he did not say that.Marty,The Jews implied it was impossible for Jesus to have ever seen Abraham, since he wasn't even 50 years old yet.And his response to them was that he had…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2014,12:13)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2014,17:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2014,09:40)Do YOU suppose that you were created through your great, great grandson? YES or NO?And if “NO”, why not?Hi Mike:What does that have to do with the fact that God knew that a specific time He would have a Son through whom He would…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2014,12:16)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2014,17:45)Hi Mike:The context has to do with the Jews accusing him of saying that he had seen Abraham, and he did not say that.Marty,The Jews implied it was impossible for Jesus to have ever seen Abraham, since he wasn't even 50 years old yet.And his response to them was that he had…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2014,12:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2014,19:29)Hi Mike:You want me to tell you why the translators the way they did, and all I can say, is that I suppose that it was the context of what was being said.And in WHAT context would it make sense to say, “Before Abraham existed, I am“ ?Would we say, “I am with you since last…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2014,09:40)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2014,19:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2014,12:35)You say that all things WERE created through Jesus, right? Good. At least your not using that lame “on account of” thing anymore. See? We're making progress.Now, can I sensibly claim that you were created THROUGH your parents? Of…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2014,12:39)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2014,19:37)Please show me by the scriptures that “he was in the form of God prior to his birth into this world”.Phil 2:6-8, Marty.No, Mike, it does not say that. It says that was “in the form of God” that much is true, but the rest is your interpretation of what is being stated.Love…[Read more]
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