Gene:If you have children and they do wrong and you have to discipline them because you know that if they continue in what they are doing, it will hurtful to them somewhere in their life at some point, do you see that discipline as evil?When God disciplines or punishes us for our disobedience, it may seem evil to us and the scriptures translate it…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:Unless I have missed one, this is the last of the scriptures that you posted, and the answer follows:Quote Amos 3:6 states: Amo 3:6Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?The answer is in these two scriptures:Amo 3:2You only have I known of all the…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 19 2014,07:44)Marty,Are those scriptures a proclamation of a future event foreseen, or are they statements of a God whose character, knowledge, and power will bring them to pass. Just searching for truth – WmHi William:I think both in some sense because unless He had intervened in the affairs of mankind none of us would…[Read more]

Wakeup:  Relative to Isaiah 54:16:  God created all rational creatures including the “wasters” in that He allowed them to continue in this world because in doing so, He would use them to accomplish His purposes, the salvation of His Children.  The examples of “the waster” are men like the Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar.  God did various miracles in…[Read more]

Wakeup: Isaiah 45:7 has already been explained to you by both me and Mike.

Psalm 78 is about the nation of Israel's rebellion against God although He had shown many miracles to them in bringing them out of the Egyptian bondage, and did not spare their Egyptian enemies, but spared not the “firstborn” of Egypt by sending the death angel.Quote 43 How he had wrought his signs in Egypt, and his wonders in the field of Zoan.44…[Read more]

Here is another one, Wakeup:LamentationsQuote 38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?39 Wherefore doth a living man complain, a man for the punishment of his sins?These verses are about God punishing Israel for their unrighteousness, and God told them what would happen if they disobeyed His commandments in Deut. 38, but…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:Job 26:13 states:   Job 26:13By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.  This is part of a parable that Job was stating as he was trying to understand why he was going through all of his suffering, and trying to explain to those who were supposedly trying to comfort him, but were accusing him o…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 25 2014,02:09)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 24 2014,05:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2014,02:44)To All……..Now you have moved this argument to, that i am saying we do not have a WILL, that is Not the Point here I perfectly well know we all have will, the question He are those WILL “FREE” Not one scripture Posted by anyone…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 25 2014,11:33)Mike B.Exod.4:11Deut.32:39.1 Sam.2:6Job. 26:13Lament.3:38.Psalms.78:49Isai.45:7.Isai.54:16.Amos.3:6.Just to see what your bible says.wakeup.Hi Wakeup:It is quite easy just to give the book and the scripture, but it is necessary to read them in context to understand what is being stated.You accuse Pierre of doing…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2014,02:44)To All……..Now you have moved this argument to, that i am saying we do not have a WILL, that is Not the Point here I perfectly well know we all have will, the question He are those WILL “FREE” Not one scripture Posted by anyone say they ARE “FREE, but every thing posted is about a driven will and that…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:I have been commenting on the scriptures about the evil that God can do, but the list was quite long, and I don't have time to sit and research all of the scriptures that you posted at one sitting. However, I believe that they will be similar because God is either causing tribulation to his children in order to get to repent or he is…[Read more]

Hi Gene:Apparently, both God and Jesus had “a will”, and we were created in the image of God.Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.The first Adam was made a living soul.Quote Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2014,04:07)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 21 2014,04:53)3.1 sam. 2:61Sa 2:7The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up. 1Sa 2:8He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars…[Read more]

The scripture that you quoted below is speaking of the judgment rendered against Egypt as God was delivering the nation of Israel from bondage. Evil angels are evil messengers. Quote Psa 78:49He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.Love in Christ,Marty

3.1 sam. 2:61Sa 2:7The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up. 1Sa 2:8He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them. 1Sa 2:9He…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,03:34)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 20 2014,00:29)Hi Wakeup:I will just make one more comment, and that is God knew there would be rebellious men, but in the Kingdom of God which will be for eternity there will never be rebellion again.  This world is temporary and those who choose to continue in sin and reject the “free gift…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:I will just make one more comment, and that is God knew there would be rebellious men, but in the Kingdom of God which will be for eternity there will never be rebellion again. This world is temporary and those who choose to continue in sin and reject the “free gift of salvation” will be destroyed forever. Apparently, you do not know…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 19 2014,14:51)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 19 2014,10:25)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2014,09:11)Marty.Will you confirm that those scriptures are true.Or not true.Would you contradict God's own words,and interpretit your own way.I am not accusing anybody;just posting scripturesthat have been refuted by some.Are they true or false?wakeup.Hi…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup:I just got home from work and I am tired and will not try to give you an answer for each scripture, and what it means, but this is what the James Faucett Brown Commentary states:Quote create evil–not moral evil ( Jam 1:13 ), but in contrast to “peace” in the parallel clause, war, disaster (compare Psa 65:7 Amo 3:6 ).Which is what I have…[Read more]