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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,09:25)94,If you are under the authority of God and His Son and His Word then He also expects us to obey others He has appointed over us too in the world.True, as long as what they are asking me to do is not contrary to Word of God.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,09:06)94, We should not take on our shoulders the role of arbiter but submit in faith to those who are given by God authority in appointed governance areas.You are not under OT law so you do not need to submit to those in the seat of Moses.The false church is not of GodHi Nick:I will obey the truth which is the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,08:42)Hi 94, If their authority was not recognised of God then would Jesus have said in Mt23″1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:…[Read more]

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    Quote (chosenone @ Nov. 28 2008,11:37)Jesus taught while under the law, explaining to the Jews the intent of the law, not to the letter of the law, as the pharisees did.  In this era, those chosen of God, both Jew and Gentile, are now under “Grace”, not under the law.  So how can His (Jesus) words be relevent for us today?     His (Jesus) wor…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,08:21)Hi 94, Do those churches hold any place in God's order?Do they appear here?1Peter2 13Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2008,14:53)Laurel……….Here is one for all to consider, Mat 21:31…> Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him , the first, Jesus saith them, Verily I say unto you, that the publicans and the Harlots (GO) into the Kingdom of GOD before You (Pharisees) > does it say that the {Pharisees…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,06:08)Hi 94, What they taught and how consistent they were bears no relationship to their appointment. All authority comes from God.Hi Nick:And so, you are saying that God put them in the position of authority?How about the homosexual who is being ordained as a Bishop in some of our “so called Christian churches”?

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    Hi Gene:This is what the scripture states:Quote 2Cr 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things in body, according to that he hath done, whether good or bad. A Christian should be obeying the Word of God. These are the works that God had foreordained for His children. But we have a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 30 2008,18:45)Hi 94,Jesus accepted the authority of the Pharisees and told others to obey them.Hi Nick:What Jesus said was:Quote Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,05:06)Hi 94,It is an essential plank in the universalist philosophy to deny that man has any influence over his life so they can declare that God will save all by a perverted view of grace.Hi Nick:What you say is true, however, my hope is that they will acknowledge the truth and repent.God Bless

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    Hi:Will those of you who believe that we do not have a “free will”, the freedom to choose between good and evil or between whether or not we will serve the Lord when we hear the gospel, explain to me why then is God going to hold us accountable for the life that we live?

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    942767 replied to the topic Mt 15 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 30 2008,13:55)Actually, I had the same dilemma.  I did not quit the job I had, but today I have not had to work on the Sabbaths for over a year!I was given a different job, truely a blessing that I had waited and cried for for a very long time.What I thought you said is that your church is keeping the 1st day of the week in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2008,13:13)942767……I noticed you added your opinion to the scripture you quoted, (YOU SAID UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL Will< IT"S THEIR CHOICE) Please show Scripture that says that. Are you saying GOD is incapable of Saving whosoever He wants to , and we are not really the clay but we assist the potter in His work on…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2008,13:27)942767………All the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will rise in Judgment and condemn the generation of the Pharisees at the time of Christ, to to think they were eternally destroyed is wrong, the example was about God's intense judgments on evil not his eternally destroying people. You need to understand…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Mt 15 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 7 months ago

    Hi Lauel:Are you an Apostle whom God has sent forth to correct me? As I have said to you, I am glad that you are obeying the commandments, but you are not the judge. As it stands right now, I have to work on Saturday and Sunday, and I have asked God to deliver me from this situation and He has chosen not to do so, but I know that He will deliver…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Mt 15 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 30 2008,12:24)942,You and I havd clashed in the past about keeping all the commands or whether we are free from the “law.” Correct?So now you say and you are correct in saying that there is one law for all.  So why then do you walk as if there is two?  One for Jews and one for Gentiles?You know the true Jew will never b…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2008,12:08)Nick….if you and 942767 want to believe God will Destroy people in an ever burning literal “lake of fire” you need to show scripture to prove your points not I and CO have both shown scriptures that show there is a strong  leaning for salvation of All through fire Judgments. If you are so adamantly…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Mt 15 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2008,11:01)942767………..Where did CO say Jesus' words did not apply to all, He said Jesus was sent specifically to the House of Israel, And Jesus himself said that. The question was not about His words , it was who Jesus was sent specifically to. Thats the way i understand what Co was talking about.peace to you…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Mt 15 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (chosenone @ Nov. 30 2008,09:28)Still no scripture?Hi Co:I gave you the scriptures, and so, what do you mean still no scripture?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 30 2008,08:44)Hi, This is what Jesus our Master said in Jn15″ 1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken…[Read more]

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