Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2010,05:43)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 15 2010,15:17)Hi Mike:If the scriptures don't convince you, what more can I say or add to them that would convince you.  Just look at the number of pages on this thread.He was fore-ordained.  He did not pre-exist as a sentient person.Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,I agree Jesus was f…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2010,14:11)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2010,14:49)Hi Mike:I have posted the scriptures as they relate to each other so that you can read for yourself and see what Jesus meant.I know that you are an intelligent person.Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,Thanks for that vote of confidence, but your scriptures do no more to make me…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ July 28 2010,02:33)In another thread, SimplyForgiven wrote the following:Quote No the person has been caught, there is just another willing to take your place to appease justice rather than the you paying for it.  Justice is uphold when the punishment of the crime is dealt with.  Someone has to pay for it, and it will be us, b…[Read more]

Hi:He is the Only Son unikely conceived of God's Spirit in the womb of a woman, and so, Only Begotten Son speaks of this. He was begotten or born again from the dead when he was declared to be the Son of God by the Spirit of Holiness when he was resurrected from the dead, but we also because of him are born again from the dead.Love in Christ,Marty

Hi:He is the Only Son uniquely conceived of God's Spirit in the womb of a woman, and so, Only Begotten Son speaks of this.  He was begotten or born again from the dead when he was declared to be the Son of God by the Spirit of Holiness when he was resurrected from the dead, but we also because of him are born again from the dead.Love in…[Read more]

Hi RM:You say:Quote The Word of God, however…is God revealing himself to creation.It's clear to understand that what is revealed is the same as the revealer.The only difference is….what is revealed does not encompass the infinite totality of The Revealer.I agree. You have summed it up very nicely.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 14 2010,09:02)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 14 2010,08:51)Hi RM:God did not become a man and will never be a man.  He made man in His Own image.  Jesus is the “express image of His Person”.The body of Christ is God's own flesh and blood, and is God's body.  God is a Spirit, and He has spoken to humanity through his Son in these la…[Read more]

My vote is no, I believe that Shimmer has stated it well.Love in Christ,Marty

My vote is no, I believe that Shimmer has stated it well.Love in Christ,Marty

Hi RM:God did not become a man and will never be a man.  He made man in His Own image.  Jesus is the “express image of His Person”.The body of Christ is God's own flesh and blood, and is God's body.  God is a Spirit, and He has spoken to humanity through his Son in these last days.  If God is speaking, that is the Word of God.  Jesus said the it w…[Read more]

Hi Mike:What about the following scriptures as it relates to this discussion?Quote John 3:11-14 (King James Version) 11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 13 2010,14:58)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2010,14:22)Hi BD:God is a merciful God and He will have mercy through His provision.Quote John 14:2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2010,14:14)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2010,14:02)Hi Mike:I believe that if you will read these scriptures carefully you will see that Jesus was not speaking of returning to a former glory that he had prior to his being glorified upon finishing the work that God gave him to do on this earth, but he was speaking in terms of…[Read more]

Hi BD:God is a merciful God and He will have mercy through His provision.Quote John 14:2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I…[Read more]

Hi Mike:I believe that if you will read these scriptures carefully you will see that Jesus was not speaking of returning to a former glory that he had prior to his being glorified upon finishing the work that God gave him to do on this earth, but he was speaking in terms of going to a glory that was foreordained before the foundation of the…[Read more]

Hi:The parable of Lazarus and the rich man is not to be taken literally. At death the fate of every person is sealed, but there is a day of judgment coming, but no, they are not judged immediately upon death. This is what Jesus said:Quote John 12:46-48 (King James Version) 46I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2010,14:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 12 2010,08:47)Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 11 2010,15:50)One more thing, if the Holy Spirit is a person then He will be the Father of Jeus, and that is not so, because the Holy Spirit is the essence of God the Father…His Holy SpiritSo if the Holy Spirit is not a person then a thing or…[Read more]

Good post, Barley, thanks.Love in Christ,Marty

Hi, maybe these scriptures will help:Quote Ephesians 1:2Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 12 2010,15:53)Hi Lightenup,This is the post I just prepared for Marty and I just read your post so I will address it to both of you.Marty,In the Born or begotten thread, theres more to what I said, They are saying God has a body with reproductive organs and everything, that God actually gave birth to God as another God who…[Read more]