Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2010,06:16)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 21 2010,03:13)You can not alien up the fact that GOD said HE (ALONE) and BY HIMSELF Created everything and then insert the JESUS did IT.Gene,You are like a one trick pony.  You keep saying the same thing over and over.  And I'm getting tired of you claiming the “for” thing while i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 23 2010,03:35)15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:I wanted to go to…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 23 2010,19:27)My brother passed away roughly 8 months ago on Dec. 09 2009.Today is his birthday! (Aug. 23rd 2010).He by far was and is the greatest christian I knowHere's his story, summarized for an easy ead.————–Ndubuisi 'Titus' Ogbaa BiographyMy brother was real wicked and evil as a kid. He always got in fights,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2010,21:29)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 12 2010,00:14)Do you believe then it is wrong to say God begat God, as in Jesus pre-existant was 100% God the Father ? Cause that's what they are saying over in another thread ?It is wrong if it means that the only true God, begat another God which would then not be the only true one.However,…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 21 2010,15:18)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 21 2010,14:42)Hi Kathi:The scripture states that Jesus is a man, no, not just any man, he is the Son of the living God, but nevertheless he is a man.  That is what the scripture states, and so, please do not try to tell me different than that.I know that no man born of the sperm of man has…[Read more]

Hi Kathi:The scripture states that Jesus is a man, no, not just any man, he is the Son of the living God, but nevertheless he is a man. That is what the scripture states, and so, please do not try to tell me different than that.I know that no man born of the sperm of man has ever obeyed God without sin even unto death. He cannot even save…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2010,12:06)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,18:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2010,07:44)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:05)Hi Kathi:You say to Shimmer:Quote I have taken the liberty to rewrite the verses that you put up with adding the understanding of there being an unbegotten God who has a Son, the begotten GodWho gave you…[Read more]

Hi:The churches that teach the “trinity doctrine” tell me that unless I accept this doctrine or unless I by my signature on their statement of faith agree with the doctrine and the others that they list, I can't be a member of thier church, and I ask them “Is your church a different one than the Lord established”? When I confessed Jesus as my…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2010,07:44)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:05)Hi Kathi:You say to Shimmer:Quote I have taken the liberty to rewrite the verses that you put up with adding the understanding of there being an unbegotten God who has a Son, the begotten GodWho gave you the right to re-write these verses?  Apparently, that is also what the…[Read more]

Hi Kathi:You say to Shimmer:Quote I have taken the liberty to rewrite the verses that you put up with adding the understanding of there being an unbegotten God who has a Son, the begotten GodWho gave you the right to re-write these verses? Apparently, that is also what the translators who said that there was an unbegotten God did also. There is…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 21 2010,00:24)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,08:15)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 19 2010,14:34)Marty I was just reading your post, just one point, you said that The Word of God is God;s Word, so that Word became flesh?  That makes no sense at all.  Jehovah God has never been heard or seen, only He that has been with Him from the b…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 20 2010,15:10)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 19 2010,23:04)Hi Lu:”Unbegotten God?  Where do you come up with this.  Certainly, there is nothing in the scriptures that indicates this.Love in Christ,MartyMarty,If God always existed then He was not begotten by anyone…right?  Therefore He is the unbegotten God.There is nothing in th…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,14:49)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,14:27)Hi Mike:When was this spoken to Jesus?Quote Hebrews 1:4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And…[Read more]

Hi Lu:”Unbegotten God? Where do you come up with this. Certainly, there is nothing in the scriptures that indicates this.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 20 2010,14:51)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 19 2010,18:55)Hi Mike:If Jesus was begotten prior to his birth from the virgin Mary, please show me by the scriptures that it is so, and please tell me how he is begotten, from Himself or from whom?  How, Mike, how? I can't seem to get my mind to wrap around that at all.Love in…[Read more]

Hi Mike:When was this spoken to Jesus?Quote Hebrews 1:4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6And again,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,14:05)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:42)No, Mike, You are posting scriptures which you say may indicate that Jesus pre-existed his birth from the virgin Mary.I am asking you to show me how he is begotten prior to his birth.  Jesus was begotten of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary.  I can understand t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:15)Hi All,Ready for another one?John 8:38 (New International Version)38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father.”Does this not clearly say that the person Jesus had “seen” things “in the Father's presence”?peace and love,mikeHi Mike:Quote John…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:37)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2010,09:45)Hi Mike:You say:Quote Marty, The Word of God means that Jesus was God's spokesman.  He spoke God's words.  If Jesus simply existed in the heart of God, then how did he have a memory of his glory IN GOD'S PRESENCE before the world?  Please give me the scripture to which yo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,12:41)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,10:55)Hi Mike:If Jesus was begotten prior to his birth from the virgin Mary, please show me by the scriptures that it is so, and please tell me how he is begotten, from Himself or from whom?  How, Mike, how? I can't seem to get my mind to wrap around that at all.Love in…[Read more]