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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Mike and Irene:You say Jesus “emptied himself” prior to becoming a man. What does that mean? Emptied himself in what way or of what?Love in Christ,Marty

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,08:06)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 07 2011,06:38)Hi Mike:What the scripture actually states: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputationOkay Marty.  But still that doesn't answer my point.  You can not “empty yourself” if you were never “full”, r…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,02:15)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 06 2011,14:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,07:48)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 05 2011,15:38)Show me where any mention is made that the Holy Spirit is a “Third Person” of a Tri-une God.MartyI already have and you have rejected them. There are more. So yes, let God judge between me…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,07:48)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 05 2011,15:38)Show me where any mention is made that the Holy Spirit is a “Third Person” of a Tri-une God.MartyI already have and you have rejected them. There are more. So yes, let God judge between me and you who accepts the inspired word of God which is the truth and who does not…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2011,07:56)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 06 2011,07:45)But he did not let these facts go to his head, but emptied himselfAnd again Marty,If Jesus never HAD this conceited “I'm better than you” attitude in the first place, then he couldn't have “emptied himself” of it.Get it?  In order to “empty himself” OF something, he had to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 05 2011,06:58)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 05 2011,04:09)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 03 2011,07:38)Marty! Good, praying to God for the truth is very good.  Let me tell you something, I did not always believed that Jesus preexisted at one time either.  But Georg and I started to look at those Scriptures which I gave you and others.  There is no…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 05 2011,06:06)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2011,11:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2011,04:06)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 03 2011,11:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2011,08:44)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 02 2011,15:09)When I show you the scriptures you always state that I am being selective.MartyAnd the scriptures I have…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 03 2011,07:38)Marty! Good, praying to God for the truth is very good.  Let me tell you something, I did not always believed that Jesus preexisted at one time either.  But Georg and I started to look at those Scriptures which I gave you and others.  There is no either being that fits Rev. 19:13-16, which then shows us that Jo…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2011,04:06)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 03 2011,11:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2011,08:44)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 02 2011,15:09)When I show you the scriptures you always state that I am being selective.MartyAnd the scriptures I have given you do not line up with your interpretation of those scriptures.Tell me Marty,…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2011,02:42)Marty……..You have it right Jesus did (NOT) PREEXIST His berth on earth as a sentential being of any kind, he existed only in the Plan and Will of GOD, which he has for all mankind and Jesus was the (FIRST) to reach that Goal (FROM HUMANITY). You have it right brother don't let these deluded…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2011,08:44)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 02 2011,15:09)When I show you the scriptures you always state that I am being selective.MartyAnd the scriptures I have given you do not line up with your interpretation of those scriptures.Tell me Marty, Is John 14:16 scripture or not? If it is then please explain why Jesus said he…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,12:01)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,08:06)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,07:18)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,06:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:34)The glory is that which he received of God His Father when He brought him forth into this world as His Only Begotten Son and anointed him…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 02 2011,06:09)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,13:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2011,08:33)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,15:54)Jesus called the Holy Ghost, “the Third Person of a Tri-une God?MartyJesus made it clear that the Holy Ghost was “another” and not the Father proceeding from himself.And I will pray “the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 02 2011,03:09)Gene!   Jhn 17:3   And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.   Jhn 17:4   I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.   Jhn 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2011,08:33)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,15:54)Jesus called the Holy Ghost, “the Third Person of a Tri-une God?MartyJesus made it clear that the Holy Ghost was “another” and not the Father proceeding from himself.And I will pray “the Father, and “he (the Father) shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that he may abide…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2011,10:21)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,06:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,10:37)Hi Marty,You have spoken correctly this time.  GOD is the Father of Jesus.  NOT God's Holy Spirit.  God's Holy Spirit is the “tool” God used to impregnate Mary, like a human male will impregnate someone BY MEANS OF his penis.  But the…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,07:18)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,06:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:34)The glory is that which he received of God His Father when He brought him forth into this world as His Only Begotten Son and anointed him as His Christ, and savior of all mankind, and as his heir, and that…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2011,07:14)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,15:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2011,06:56)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,14:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,10:37)Hi Marty,You have spoken correctly this time.  GOD is the Father of Jesus.  NOT God's Holy Spirit.  God's Holy Spirit is the “tool” God used to im…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2011,07:11)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,14:25)The point that was being made is that the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of God…But wait Marty,You said the Holy Ghost is the Father, which means that Jesus is the “Son of the Holy Ghost”.So when you say…”The point that was being made is that the Holy Ghost is the Spirit…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2011,06:56)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,14:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,10:37)Hi Marty,You have spoken correctly this time.  GOD is the Father of Jesus.  NOT God's Holy Spirit.  God's Holy Spirit is the “tool” God used to impregnate Mary, like a human male will impregnate someone BY MEANS OF his penis.  B…[Read more]

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