Quote (terraricca @ May 10 2011,12:24)Quote (942767 @ May 10 2011,19:04)Quote (terraricca @ May 09 2011,14:30)Quote (942767 @ May 09 2011,20:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2011,11:39)Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,17:30)Perhaps the following scriptures will help us to understand what is meant by the word “firstborn” in the above posted scriptures:…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 09 2011,14:30)Quote (942767 @ May 09 2011,20:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2011,11:39)Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,17:30)Perhaps the following scriptures will help us to understand what is meant by the word “firstborn” in the above posted scriptures:  Rom 8:29   For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate conformed t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2011,11:39)Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,17:30)Perhaps the following scriptures will help us to understand what is meant by the word “firstborn” in the above posted scriptures:  Rom 8:29   For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many b…[Read more]

Hi:The following verses of scripture have been given by those who propose that Jesus pre-existed as a sentient person prior to his birth into this world.Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath…[Read more]

Hi Charles:You say:Quote Marty,I respect your opinion.Luke 24:39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.Wasn't that Jesus confirming that He is still MAN and also SPIRITPeace and Love in God Almighty in Jesus as God/Man The scripture that you quote above does…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ May 09 2011,01:38)Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,14:23)Quote (csaliba @ May 07 2011,16:44)Quote (942767 @ May 05 2011,12:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2011,01:42)Quote (Istari @ April 28 2011,17:04)Work backwards: if Jesus IS God – and he says we are to become like him – then he must mean that we too are to become GOD!OK JA…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,13:59)Quote (Baker @ May 07 2011,13:18)OK Marty, and that Word became flesh…..verse 14……Then John tells us in Jhn 6:38   For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.  He came from Heaven, and He will come again as the Word of God and King of Kings…..Rev. 19funny He is t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 08 2011,14:54)Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,19:59)Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2011,12:23)MartyQuote In Revelation 19:13, the scripture states that “His Name” is called the Word of God, and it does not say that he is the Word of God.  The Word of God is that which God has spoken, and the scriptures in Hebrews 1 state that God…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ May 07 2011,16:44)Quote (942767 @ May 05 2011,12:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2011,01:42)Quote (Istari @ April 28 2011,17:04)Work backwards: if Jesus IS God – and he says we are to become like him – then he must mean that we too are to become GOD!OK JA Does it mean that we are going to become God if we are made after Gods…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ May 07 2011,13:18)OK Marty, and that Word became flesh…..verse 14……Then John tells us in Jhn 6:38   For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.  He came from Heaven, and He will come again as the Word of God and King of Kings…..Rev. 19funny He is the Word in Rev. 19, but not in J…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2011,12:23)MartyQuote In Revelation 19:13, the scripture states that “His Name” is called the Word of God, and it does not say that he is the Word of God.  The Word of God is that which God has spoken, and the scriptures in Hebrews 1 state that God has spoken to humanity through His Son in these last days.  Jesus o…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2011,12:18)Quote (942767 @ May 07 2011,17:10)Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2011,10:00)MartyQuote The meaning of the name “Jesus” is YHWH is salvation.  The scripture states: “They shall call his name” Emmanuel. Which is interpreted to mean “God with us”.  We have seen God's character manifest through his life and d…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ May 07 2011,11:10)Marty! You say that in Rev. 19 it is Jesus, but not in John 1:1-14 its not? Is that what you are saying???Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2011,10:00)MartyQuote The meaning of the name “Jesus” is YHWH is salvation.  The scripture states: “They shall call his name” Emmanuel. Which is interpreted to mean “God with us”.  We have seen God's character manifest through his life and death.Love in Christ,Marty God can not be manifested in any way in dead PierreHi P…[Read more]

Hi again Keith:And you say:Quote The image of God is God because the “image of God” is perfectly identical!No, he is the last Adam who is the express image of God's person.  God's character has been made manifest to us through the life of His Son, but he is still God's Son and not God himself.  They are two distinct persons.  And the scriptures st…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2011,06:26)Quote (Wispring @ May 06 2011,00:26)Hi 942767,   Thank You! Thank you for pointing out the obvious reality that an image of anything is not the original. If you ever tried your hand as a visual artist or did alot of Photoshop type work you would be extremely aware of this simple fact of life.          …[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ May 06 2011,12:11)Marty!Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  Does this say in the beginning was the Word?  And the Word was God?  Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grac…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ May 06 2011,12:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2011,02:06)Hi AllTo deny the preexistence of Jesus is to deny a very basic fundamental truth. There are way to many scriptures that one has to explain away or give some ethereal interpretation to the text when it is obvious a litteral interpretation of the text is what is meant by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2011,10:45)Quote (942767 @ May 05 2011,07:42)Hi Mike:The scripture states that “his Name” is called the Word of God.  It does not say that he is the Word of God.Love in Christ,MartyI'm sorry Marty,I could have sworn you said the “Word of God” in Rev 19 WAS Jesus.  Did I read your answer wrong?  Because now it seems li…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,03:55)MartyNo it doesn't satisfy me, because that scripture says he is “the image of God” and not that “God made him into the image of God”.Do you believe God has an image even though he is invisible to us?True or False…Jesus is made into the image of God? FalseJesus is “the image of God”? TrueSince Jesus is…[Read more]