Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2011,08:05)Quote (942767 @ June 08 2011,08:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2011,12:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2011,15:02)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2011,18:13)Hi Mike:Jesus existed in the heart of God to be manifest to humanity in his timing, and Jesus was asking God to glorifiy him with the glory that was foreseen that…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 07 2011,23:24)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 03 2011,17:47)Quote (942767 @ May 30 2011,01:41)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 30 2011,05:40)Hey Hey Guess what everyone !!Christians and Muslims in fact do not believe in the same thing! True, SF:And so, let's pray that God will give them revelation knowledge of the truth.God is not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2011,12:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2011,15:02)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2011,18:13)Hi Mike:Jesus existed in the heart of God to be manifest to humanity in his timing, and Jesus was asking God to glorifiy him with the glory that was foreseen that he would have with the Father in his exalted position as head of the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,12:49)Quote (942767 @ June 05 2011,19:38)No, Mike:You said that he was asking to be returned to the glory he had with the Father before the world was.And your point is……………….?  That IS what he asked for.  But behold, he was exalted even higher than what he asked for.  The same thing happened to So…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,11:56)Quote (942767 @ June 05 2011,17:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,08:02)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2011,18:13)Hi Mike:Jesus existed in the heart of God to be manifest to humanity in his timing, and Jesus was asking God to glorifiy him with the glory that was foreseen that he would have with the Father in his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,08:31)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2011,18:50)Mike, you showed me a scripture where it happened that the author of Hebrews states that Abraham met Melchizadek and called him in this scripture Abraham although his name was still Abram when he actually met Melchizadek, but no, it would not matter if you found several more…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,08:02)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2011,18:13)Hi Mike:Jesus existed in the heart of God to be manifest to humanity in his timing, and Jesus was asking God to glorifiy him with the glory that was foreseen that he would have with the Father in his exalted position as head of the church.Ah, but here's another chink in your…[Read more]

Hi Mike:Quote Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,21:07) There goes that vivid imagination again, Mike.  Really Marty?  I showed you a scripture where it is CLEAR this happened (presumably by the same author), yet I'm “imagining things” to think it happened again?  Would it help if I found more of the same?Mike, you showed me a scripture where it ha…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2011,14:17)Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,20:35)Let me give you a clue how he knew.  After he was born, God told him about it.Hi Marty,Okay, so I was right that you supposed God told him or showed him or whatever.  Now, what was so great about “existing” inside of God's heart without a mind, will or emotions that Jesus a…[Read more]

Hi Mike:You say:Quote Could this also be the case with Phil 2, Marty? Could Paul be referring to the one we NOW know as Jesus Christ in a time before he really was Jesus Christ?There goes that vivid imagination again, Mike. I believe that the scriptures state somewhere: “All things are possible to them that believe”. Maybe this is what that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2011,11:59)Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,18:21)Hi Mike:God calls those things that are not as though they were, and so, in the heart of God, he did exist.And how did JESUS have a memory of his prior “existence” in the “heart of God”, what with no brain and all?The PERSON Jesus asked to go back to the glory the PERSON…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 01 2011,19:55)Quote (942767 @ May 30 2011,08:58)Hi Mike:No, we did not already exist with a divine nature, and neither did Jesus.  He was born into this world and infant just like all of humanity, but unlike all of us who were born of the sperm of man, he did not go astrayHow do you make this scripture go away?Philippians 2:6-11…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2011,13:30)Quote (942767 @ May 31 2011,10:25)Hi Mike:He existed in the heart of the Father, but not as a sentient person until he was born into this world. But even with me who in human nature did not exist before my birth into this world, God had forseen that I would exist.Exist, yes, foreordained, yes, but no, not as…[Read more]

Hi Brother Paladin:Relative to your appology to me, I believe that you just got a little frustrated with all of us here discussing this subject, and may have responded to me in a way that you ordinarily would not have responded, and that happens to the best of us, and so, appology accepted.I respect your knowledge of the scriptures, and will…[Read more]

Hi Brother Paladin:I am still praying, but this is a comment made by someone about these scriptures, and this is what I believe is meant:It was through this same Spirit that the proclamation was made to those who lived in the days of Noah. Does this mean that Christ went to make this proclamation after His resurrection? No. It simply means that…[Read more]

Hi Brother Paladin:You may be right, but I cannot say that I agree with you at time, but I am praying that God will give me understanding, and so, I will leave it at that at this time. Love in Christ,Marty

Hi Brother Paladin:I am looking at a Greek interlinear, and according to what I read here the literal reading of what was said in 1 Peter 3:17-19 is as follows:1:17For (it is) better, if the will of God wills(it), to suffer(for) doing good than (for) doing evil. 18Because even Christ once suffered concerning sins, the just for the unjust, that he…[Read more]

Hi Brother Paladin:Jesus may have gone and preached to the spirits in prison after his resurrection from the dead, and by spirits in prison, this may refer to these referenced by the following scriptures:Quote Jude 1:6   And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under…[Read more]

Hi Brother:You ask:Quote What? You think me a novice?No, I do not, but does that mean that you know everything or that you could not possibly be wrong on this issue. I am not a novice either. I have been saved and studying the scriptures and being corrected by God and asking to be corrected if I am wrong for 31 years.Jesus was dead, and dead men…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ June 01 2011,23:53)Quote (942767 @ June 01 2011,05:21)Hi Brother Paladin:How can what you say here be true:Quote This is reinforced by Peter –  His spirit descended below the grave level to visit the spirits imprisoned in the days of Noah.When Jesus said at his death:Quote Luk 23:46   And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, h…[Read more]