Quote (Stu @ June 21 2011,17:52)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 21 2011,03:42)Quote (Stu @ June 20 2011,23:10)I am still failing to see how blood is not the same thing as sacrifice, other than the pouring on of the blood from the sacrificial animal (specifically a great ape in the case of Jesus, if any of it is true) as a gruesome and barbaric cleansing…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ June 21 2011,02:38)Hello Everyone!   For the third time I landed into the Hospital on last Thursday.  Had a Lung Infection with 101 Temp. Came Home yesterday afternoon….. IreneHi Mrs:I am sorry to hear that your are having these problems, but I am happy to hear that you are at home.May God strengthen both you and George in t…[Read more]

Hi Mike:You ask:Quote WAS IT the “thought of Jesus in God's heart” who said “I came down from heaven”?  Or was it the PERSON of Jesus who said that?When Jesus said I came down from heaven, was he speaking of his body, soul, and spirit?And, I already explained to you how he, of course the person, said he had the glory.  It was a done dealLove in C…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2011,14:21)Quote (942767 @ June 15 2011,19:11)“He had it from the beginning”.Your doctrine is confusing, Marty.  First, you have to imagine that the words “I HAD” refer to something somebody “WILL HAVE” in the future.Then you say “HE had it from the beginning”, when you don't even believe that Jesus WAS a “HE” from the…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ June 16 2011,12:34)Marty!  All you are doing is ignore plain written scriptures like tese Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  hn 1:2   The same was in the beginning with God.  Jhn 1:3   All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.  In t…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 16 2011,12:58)Quote (942767 @ June 16 2011,11:12)No, t8:Jesus is the basis for the “whole of creation”.  And so, the Logos of God pertains to him, but he is not the Logos.If he wasn't the Logos that was WITH God, then who was it?I cannot in good conscience write off two or more scriptures written in the same fashion as to being…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2011,11:57)Quote (942767 @ June 15 2011,18:42)I suppose he used the terms “I Had” because God has showed him that he would be exalted to his position as Lord and Christ The phrase “I HAD” does not correspond to “he would be exalted”, Marty.  In Phil 3:21, Paul speaks of his body being transformed sometime in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2011,11:15)Bump for MartyHi Marty,You keep saying, “in the mind of God” or “in the mind and heart of God” or “God had already forseen”, etc.My question is why JESUS, not GOD, would have said “the glory I HAD“?  And why did he use the words “I HAD” if the glory was only a glory forseen by God which Jesus hadn't yet…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ June 16 2011,03:08)And the LOGOS became flesh Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.As I said, the Logos is the Word of God and it pertains to Jesus, and what God has said pertaining to the coming Messiah was…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 15 2011,20:37)So God literally made all things through the Logos and symbolically through Jesus? Or symbolically through both, according to you?It says “Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.” And this is pertaining to the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 15 2011,11:44)We know that God created all through the Logos. But it also says that God created all through Jesus Christ. In addition, it says that The Logos became flesh was Jesus.So The Logos becoming flesh is JesusAnd through the Logos God creates allAnd through Jesus God creates all.So what is the difference?John 1-41 In the…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ June 15 2011,09:44)Hi!  Please keep me in your prayers.  Since I been Home, I have been very Nauseated, and have vomited three times. If the Medication, which the Doctor just prescript does not help, I will have to go back into the Hospital again….He also put me back on liquids only….All very upsetting….Thank you again for y…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 15 2011,10:32)So if Jesus is no different to us, then are we the Logos too?And why does scripture make such a fuss about him being the logos and the son of God when we are exactly the same?Perhaps you could write a testament about yourself like the one about Jesus.Jesus is the firstborn or prototype and we are being transformed to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 13 2011,12:04)Marty.If you were in the mind of God previous to your creation, did you then have glory with God before the world began and are you going to return to that glory?If not, why not?Hi t8:This is what the scripture states:John 17:4I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 14 2011,20:21)Quote (942767 @ June 14 2011,01:05)Hi Stu:Do you find it abominable that there were men who were willing to sacrifice their lives in stopping Hitler from accomplishing his quest?Love in Christ,MartyYes of course I find that abominable.  Why should they have ever been asked to do that?I assume you mean the Hitler…[Read more]

Hi Stu:Do you find it abominable that there were men who were willing to sacrifice their lives in stopping Hitler from accomplishing his quest?Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (Stu @ June 09 2011,18:42)Quote (942767 @ June 09 2011,05:47)Quote (Stu @ June 08 2011,16:30)Quote (942767 @ June 08 2011,06:27)Quote (Stu @ June 07 2011,23:24)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 03 2011,17:47)Quote (942767 @ May 30 2011,01:41)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 30 2011,05:40)Hey Hey Guess what everyone !!Christians and Muslims in fact do…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2011,14:30)Quote (942767 @ June 08 2011,19:51)Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2011,12:32)MartyQuote Hi Pierre:Were the works finished from the foundation of the world or not?  That is what the scripture states, and so, how can I be wrong if that is what the scripture states.God speaks those things that are not as though…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 08 2011,16:30)Quote (942767 @ June 08 2011,06:27)Quote (Stu @ June 07 2011,23:24)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 03 2011,17:47)Quote (942767 @ May 30 2011,01:41)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 30 2011,05:40)Hey Hey Guess what everyone !!Christians and Muslims in fact do not believe in the same thing! True, SF:And so, let's pray that God…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2011,12:32)MartyQuote Hi Pierre:Were the works finished from the foundation of the world or not?  That is what the scripture states, and so, how can I be wrong if that is what the scripture states.God speaks those things that are not as though they already were because they will be manifest into reality in his…[Read more]