942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2011,14:14)MartyQuote And there are many other scriptures in the OT such as Isaiah 9, 11, 53 for example. And this in the NT:all those scriptures you quote are only proving that Christ was who he says he was the son of the living God,PierreTrue

942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2011,14:11)MartyRev 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.Psa 110:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. is this Zion on earth or…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2011,13:54)MartyQuote Jesus became a living soul when he was born into this worldare you sure you can prove that ??PierreHi Pierre:Was he breathing when he was born an infant? And was he born to parents who were obedient to the Law of Moses?Love in Christ,Marty
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ July 02 2011,12:52)hey Mike! Need some help/ Ok Marty! You gave good scriptures in John 5…..lets look at them, especially verse30, 36, 37 and 38 all say that he was sent….. where was He sent from. In order for Jesus to say that, he must have known where He was sent from. do you know? Not pre- ordained, but was liter…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Stu @ July 02 2011,13:40)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2011,10:41)Hi Stu:Perhaps, this article entitled The Amazing camel and it's creator will convince you that God is a reality:http://www.plaintruth.com/the_pla….or.htmlLove in Christ,MartyThank you for your link to material for the abuse of children.I draw your attention to this line as an…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike:The question you say is:Quote And the question is why JESUS, (not God who foreknew everything), would have referred to a glory HE HIMSELF HAD before the creation of the world. God told him that he was foreordained, and about the glory that he had with him from the beginning.Jesus refers to Psalm 110 here: Quote Mat 22:42 Saying, What…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 14 years, 8 months ago
Hi Stu:Perhaps, this article entitled The Amazing camel and it's creator will convince you that God is a reality:http://www.plaintruth.com/the_pla….or.htmlLove in Christ,Marty
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2011,15:09)Who's the one adding to scriptures? I don't remember scripture saying Jesus' “body, soul and spirit” came down from heaven, do you? I do remember someone applying this scripture to him: “A body you prepared for me”. Who is the “ME” that had a body prepared for him? And the question is why JESUS, (not God…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 14 years, 8 months ago
Hi Stu:You say that I must first convince you that there is a God in order for you to know that you are insulting Him.I can only share the truth of my experiences with you, and live my life as an example which should reflect God's love for you. It is Him that I am obeying, to Love my neighbor as my self. And I can share His Word with you.John…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2011,13:10)Quote (942767 @ June 29 2011,20:08)Hi Mike:You say: “Jesus could have had a soul prior to his birth into this world since God and angels have souls”. There is only “One God” and Men and angels are created beings”. The breath of God makes them living souls.There is no scripture that states that Jesus had a s…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike:You say: “Jesus could have had a soul prior to his birth into this world since God and angels have souls”. There is only “One God” and Men and angels are created beings”. The breath of God makes them living souls.There is no scripture that states that Jesus had a soul prior to his birth into this world, and so, this is pure speculation…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2011,14:15)Martywas Christ made from dust like his father then his father was a man ,not God ,then he can not save anyone right ?but scriptures says that he was the first born of creation ,and so his father is God not man.he preexisted is birth as man.Mt 1:18 This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about:because what…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,04:08)Hi Marty,This discussion is better suited to the “What is a soul?” thread. While the word “nephesh” is commonly used to refer to the entire human being, it is also clear that a “soul” is somthing other than the body. Jesus said not to fear those who could ONLY kill the body and not the soul, but there are m…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 23 2011,15:12)Quote (942767 @ June 20 2011,10:10)When Jesus said I came down from heaven, was he speaking of his body, soul, and spirit?Soul and spirit, Marty. “A body you have prepared for me”. Quote (942767 @ June 20 2011,10:10)And, I already explained to you how he, of course the person, said he had the glory. It wa…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Stu @ June 23 2011,18:55)Quote (942767 @ June 23 2011,12:47)Quote (Stu @ June 23 2011,06:43)Does anyone here actually know what the Problem of Evil IS?See! My avatar is not blinded, it just can't believe the gullibility and ignorance.If you haven't invented a god the you haven't invented a “Problem of Evil”:…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,13:31)Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2011,23:48)Mike you open yourself up on that claim as Jesus states he sent his disciples into the world as he was sent into the world.Hi Kerwin,How many of Jesus' disciples said “I came DOWN from heaven”? Stick with the Bizzaro reasoning I actually posted, and if you can, refute MY…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Stu @ June 23 2011,06:43)Does anyone here actually know what the Problem of Evil IS?See! My avatar is not blinded, it just can't believe the gullibility and ignorance.If you haven't invented a god the you haven't invented a “Problem of Evil”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evilThis is the realm of theodicy, apparently. Are th…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Stu @ June 22 2011,06:42)Quote (942767 @ June 22 2011,01:06)Quote (Stu @ June 21 2011,17:52)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 21 2011,03:42)Quote (Stu @ June 20 2011,23:10)I am still failing to see how blood is not the same thing as sacrifice, other than the pouring on of the blood from the sacrificial animal (specifically a great ape in the case…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Why I left the Catholic church in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeangel @ June 23 2011,00:11)Marty,Thank you so much for your input. Funny you wrote that. My wife said the same thing. She said to write a book. Also, in looking into this, I have become very aware of things I had no idea about. I'm learning more about Luther, Calvin, and others, and am not trying to be them, but am aware of the…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic Why I left the Catholic church in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 9 months ago
Mark:I am very happy to hear that you have learned the truth relative to “Transubstatiation”, and that you have decided not to participate in this ritual any longer.I understand your desire to share what you have learned with other Catholics, but unless someone is willing to hear what you have to say, you will be wasting your time. It is my…[Read more]
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