Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2011,04:20)Quote (942767 @ July 10 2011,10:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,05:46)Hi Marty,Were you going to address my last post on this thread?  Or should I just be waiting for the time that you finally find a scripture that actually prohibits Jesus from pre-existing?  Hi Mike:The following scripture prohibits J…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,05:46)Hi Marty,Were you going to address my last post on this thread?  Or should I just be waiting for the time that you finally find a scripture that actually prohibits Jesus from pre-existing?  Hi Mike:The following scripture prohibits Jesus from preexisting as a human being:Quote Gen 3:20 ¶ And Adam called hi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,05:20)Quote (942767 @ July 08 2011,13:08)And as to the imperfect “Echo” as it pertains to Barabbas in Matthew 27:16 the imperfect shows continual action, but he was released from that imprisonment or continual action, and so, I do not see that this is an equivalent situation to Jesus saying:Jhn 17:5   And now, O…[Read more]

Hi Mike:This is a true statement, and so, practice what you preach!Quote People! This is NOT how Christians do things! We aren't suppose to lie and manipulate just to be right, are we? Aren't we all after TRUTH?Love in Christ,Marty

Hi Brother Paladin:Please answer Mike's bolded question.  Otherwise, we will be here all day.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2011,01:48)Quote (942767 @ July 11 2011,08:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,13:42)Why can't you just answer a simple question and end this charade?Paladin, does the imperfect tense of “echo” in John 17:5 PROHIBIT Jesus from speaking about a glory he had in the past with his God?  YES or NO?Gene and Marty:  Are you g…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2011,06:06)Quote (942767 @ July 09 2011,08:41)Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,12:37)Quote (942767 @ July 08 2011,19:34)Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,12:28)MartyQuote Job 38:4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. And why, if Jesus was there with God in the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 09 2011,08:53)Quote (942767 @ July 09 2011,01:35)Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,17:50)Quote (942767 @ July 08 2011,12:30)Quote (Stu @ July 07 2011,17:04)Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,12:04)Quote (Stu @ July 05 2011,16:42)Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,11:33)Hi Stu:What came first, the chicken or the egg?Love in Christ,MartyThe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,13:42)Why can't you just answer a simple question and end this charade?Paladin, does the imperfect tense of “echo” in John 17:5 PROHIBIT Jesus from speaking about a glory he had in the past with his God?  YES or NO?Gene and Marty:  Are you guys paying attention?  Here is your “expert” in action.  Why do you guy…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2011,12:48)Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,06:43)Hi Mike:The Logos was made flesh.  That means there was a change from Logos to flesh.  And so, no it was not the Logos who dwelt among us, but the human being to whom the Logos pertained.The Logos was made flesh and dwelt among us, but it was NOT the Logos who dwelt among u…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 09 2011,03:03)TO ALL,On another thread some months ago WJ and I tried desperately to give Mikeboll and t8 an elementary lesson in nature and identity. It is unfortunate that some people who consider themselves students of the scripture cannot understand the elementary things. Please note that t8 said that Eve is not…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,12:37)Quote (942767 @ July 08 2011,19:34)Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,12:28)MartyQuote Job 38:4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. And why, if Jesus was there with God in the beginning, would God be telling him that he founded the earth in the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,17:50)Quote (942767 @ July 08 2011,12:30)Quote (Stu @ July 07 2011,17:04)Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,12:04)Quote (Stu @ July 05 2011,16:42)Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,11:33)Hi Stu:What came first, the chicken or the egg?Love in Christ,MartyThe egg.StuartSpoken like a true “Agnostic”.No, you've lost me there.Please…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,12:28)MartyQuote Job 38:4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. And why, if Jesus was there with God in the beginning, would God be telling him that he founded the earth in the beginning?  He would already have known this, would he not?are you mixing up C…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 07 2011,17:04)Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,12:04)Quote (Stu @ July 05 2011,16:42)Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,11:33)Hi Stu:What came first, the chicken or the egg?Love in Christ,MartyThe egg.StuartSpoken like a true “Agnostic”.No, you've lost me there.Please explain?StuartHi Stu:Where did the “egg” come from? Maybe from the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 08 2011,02:19)Quote (942767 @ July 06 2011,19:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2011,13:12)Quote (942767 @ July 04 2011,18:59)Hbr 1:10   And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:  Here in verse 10 above God is speaking to His Son telling him t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2011,13:42)Quote (942767 @ July 06 2011,19:00)Ok. Mike:Here are some scriptures that may help you figure this out:I'll tell you what, Marty:  Take each of those scriptures you quoted, and ONE AT A TIME, explain to me how they prove that Jesus didn't pre-exist.No, Mike:If you want to preach that he pre-existed, then you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2011,14:30)Quote (942767 @ July 06 2011,18:24)Hi Mike:I am not denying that John 1:14 is about Jesus………….the totality of God's Word pertains to him, but he is not the Logos.Hi Marty,You only need to follow through what I've showed you about “HIM”.  If it was the LOGOS that BECAME flesh, then it was also the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 05 2011,16:42)Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,11:33)Hi Stu:What came first, the chicken or the egg?Love in Christ,MartyThe egg.StuartSpoken like a true “Agnostic”.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2011,11:56)Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,18:39)Hi Mike:And so, Jesus is the first creature ever created by God?Uh…………YEAH!  He is the beginning of the creation by God.  (Rev 3:14)He is the firstborn of all creation.  (Col 1:15)God brought him forth as the first of His works.  (Prov 8:22)His origins are from anc…[Read more]