Hi:I don't have the time to read all that has been said in the Thread, and so, I do not know if the following scripture has been brought forth or not:It is God who sits on the Throne who is the creator and is the Only God to be worshipped as God.Quote 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne,…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 16 2011,05:48)Quote No, sorry Irene, there is nothing that says that Jesus was a spirit being before he became a man.Marty!  Then you tell me who it is in both John 1:14 and Rev. 19:13-16??Is Jesus not the only begotten of the Father?  Because that is what John 1:14 says…..And in Rev.19:13-16I didn't post those Scriptures b…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2011,08:32)Quote (942767 @ July 16 2011,10:15)Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2011,09:02)MartyQuote Hi Pierre:When I read the scriptures, I ask God to give me understanding of what is being said through the scriptures, and so, I can only give you my understanding which you call my own interpretation of the scriptures.You…[Read more]

Hi Kathi:Quote This is a very big difference between you and many Christians. When you view the scriptures through an eternally sentient person you find a completely different 'Son' than the way you have expressed. An eternally sentient person as the Son is the Lord of lords that took part in creation and is one with the Father who is the God of…[Read more]

Hi:I want also to add to have God's divine nature does not make one God, and the devine nature of Jesus was developed as he learned to apply the Word of God in His daily life. He was born an infant just like any other infant except that he was not born of the sperm of man.This scriptures may help us to understand this:Quote Hbr 5:5 ¶ So also…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2011,13:15)Quote (t8 @ May 31 2011,17:09)There is one God the Father. He is the true God.Theos as applied to anyone else, (including Jesus) is not meant to be taken as the eternal one true God.Theos has other legitimate uses, just as adam and devil do. But the one true theos is applied to the Father exclusively just as…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2011,09:02)MartyQuote Hi Pierre:When I read the scriptures, I ask God to give me understanding of what is being said through the scriptures, and so, I can only give you my understanding which you call my own interpretation of the scriptures.You also have your own interpretation of the scriptures, and apparently we…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 15 2011,19:55)Marty!  God is a Spirit Being.  Jesus had the same glory then His Father, before He became a man.  To be with Almighty God like the Angels, Jesus had to be a Spirit Being also.  Jhn 17:4   I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.   Jhn 17:5   And now, O Father…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 15 2011,08:33)Marty asked:Quote What has that to do with the question I asked you.  Is God our Father or our husband?Marty,If you cannot understand earthly things, then how will you understand heavenly things? Your question was loaded because you assume that the God is one person.God created “the Adam” male and female,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2011,11:43)Quote (942767 @ July 13 2011,08:38)He had this glory by “faith” to be manifest in God's timing,So your understanding is that God had FOREORDAINED a glory for Jesus before the world was even created?  And 17:5 represents Jesus asking for that glory, (which he knew about through faith), to be manifested upon…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2011,10:23)Quote (942767 @ July 13 2011,08:59)Is there a “first Adam” according to the scripture?Is Jesus the “Last Adam” according to the scriptures?Did God make man in His Own Image, according to the scriptures?Is Jesus the “Express image of God's person”, according to the scriptures?Hi Marty,YES to all four…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2011,10:34)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,17:09)Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2011,08:45)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,15:32)Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2011,08:16)MartyQuote The scripture that I quoted from Romans states about Jesus: that he might be the firstborn among many brethrenI am not the author of confusion, and…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 15 2011,06:04)Marty asked:Quote Hi Jack:And so, is God our Father or our husband?Marty,Moses said that God called the man and the woman “the Adam.” Was the Adam as husband or a wife?  JackHi Jack:What has that to do with the question I asked you.  Is God our Father or our husband?  You implied that He was our husband by…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 15 2011,07:27)Quote (942767 @ July 15 2011,01:02)I said that I know that my God exists through my personal experience.It is my commission to share the gospel with whomever wants to hear, and I have done this whether or not you are convinced.  I know that you will be convinced one way or another because what I have shared with…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 14 2011,10:30)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,10:14)Stu:You are invited to call on the One and Only True God if you desire to do so.  This is not a demand, but an invitation.I believe that I have answered your question relative as to why I do not call on gods that I know to be false.If you want to make that determination for…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 14 2011,10:06)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,09:48)You are still dodging the question with politician answers.  You invited me to call out to your god in order to determine its truth.  Not sure what kind of a perverse god this is that demands humans make individual applications to its club of compulsory love, a cruel one p…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2011,08:45)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,15:32)Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2011,08:16)MartyQuote The scripture that I quoted from Romans states about Jesus: that he might be the firstborn among many brethrenI am not the author of confusion, and with the judgement that you judge your condemn yourself.Love in Christ,Marty R…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 14 2011,08:59)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,08:38)Hi Stu:Prior to entering into a relationship with “The One and Only True God”.  I called upon and served many idol gods.And so, what does it matter, since I know that there is “Only One God” through personal experience.  Why waste my time with calling on idol gods or learning a…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 14 2011,08:12)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2011,01:41)Quote (Stu @ July 13 2011,15:44)Quote (942767 @ July 13 2011,12:32)Quote (Stu @ July 13 2011,09:36)Quote (942767 @ July 13 2011,08:26)Quote (Stu @ July 11 2011,09:39)Quote (942767 @ July 11 2011,02:01)No, I won't make that deal because I know that there is only “One God” who is…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2011,08:16)MartyQuote The scripture that I quoted from Romans states about Jesus: that he might be the firstborn among many brethrenI am not the author of confusion, and with the judgement that you judge your condemn yourself.Love in Christ,Marty Ro 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ…[Read more]