Hi Kathi:I just re-read what you stated in the above post. You say that Jehovah is the name for the unity of two persons. I still do not see a scripture for this, but this statement “the name for the unity of two persons” is different that your previous statement which was “Jehovah is two persons”.The name “Jesus” means “Jehovah is salvation”,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,07:04)Marty,You don't even accept that the Son pre-existed so I don't expect you to 'get it' that Jehovah is the name for the unity of two persons.Love to you,KathiHi Kathi:I have given you the scriptures that support what I believe.In order to convince me that Jehovah is two persons, you will also have to give me…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2011,16:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2011,23:14)Pierre has probably forgotten more about scripture than I'll ever know, Kathi.  And just so you know, Jesus is the Messiah, THE ANOINTED ONE OF JEHOVAH GOD.  Jeremiah 30:9Instead, they will serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for t…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,03:32)Marty wrote:Quote Adam was a son of God.  But Jesus was the Firstbegotten Son of God, and yes, he is the eldest Son supreme over all of God's creation.Marty,At least we agree that the name “firstborn” in relation to Christ means “eldest son” and”supreme.” He is the eldest son by rank and not…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 29 2011,04:40)Quote (942767 @ July 29 2011,04:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,13:38)Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,13:43)As I said, this may refer to Jesus indirectly because God created all things by him, but nowhere, do the scriptures state that Jesus is the first creature created by God.  Colossians 1:15 states…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 30 2011,00:12)Kerwin……….Good Post brother. peace and love……………………………….geneAmen to this. Good post.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (Pastry @ July 29 2011,07:55)Quote (942767 @ July 29 2011,04:27)Quote (Pastry @ July 29 2011,00:28)Marty!  Not all unfortunately believe in the healing power of God, and are out in the world…. Cindy's Friend I don't even know, I am just asking others to pray for His 15 year old Daughter…. Can you do that??? Gods will be done always…..…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 29 2011,00:28)Marty!  Not all unfortunately believe in the healing power of God, and are out in the world…. Cindy's Friend I don't even know, I am just asking others to pray for His 15 year old Daughter…. Can you do that??? Gods will be done always….. Peace and Love IreneHi Irene:I can pray that God will do every thing…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,13:38)Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,13:43)As I said, this may refer to Jesus indirectly because God created all things by him, but nowhere, do the scriptures state that Jesus is the first creature created by God.  Colossians 1:15 states that he is “the firstborn of all creation”,Hey Marty,Did you know that “pasa…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2011,07:48)Hi Marty,No one can become the nature of God.  You were either born with it or without it.  Believers will partake of the nature but believers will never be able to say that their original nature was the nature of God.  We could never be good enough to become the nature of God.  No one can become the nat…[Read more]

God is still in the healing business, and so, I will just ask both of you to show those who are sick the scripture in James 5 relative to any who may be sick among us.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (kerwin @ July 20 2011,16:07)Quote John 5:29 (King James Version) 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.There are two resurrections spoken in this scripture.One is the resurrection of life.The other is the resurrection of damnation.It…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,09:19)Quote (942767 @ July 28 2011,14:30)Hi Pierre:You say:Quote It is out of my understanding that people can not just see what is written they have  to ad or subtract to God s word.What you are accusing me of doing is exactly what you are doing when you agree with Mike that Jesus is the first creature that God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,11:19)Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,21:04)Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2011,13:36)To all,The Spirit of God came before Jesus and without the Spirit Jesus could do nothing.It is the Spirit of God and not Jesus that is recorded as being present at the old creation.Hi Kerwin:The Spirit of God is God's Spirit, and His Spirit is…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:You say:Quote It is out of my understanding that people can not just see what is written they have to ad or subtract to God s word.What you are accusing me of doing is exactly what you are doing when you agree with Mike that Jesus is the first creature that God created.Show me the scripture which states that he is the first creature…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,07:14)MartyQuote Again, this states that “he might be the firstborn” and not the “first creature that God created”.  He is the firstborn of God, and we also are now born again through him, and are being conformed to his image as we learn to apply God's Word in our daily lives.Love in Christ,Marty do you read your…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,05:15)Quote (942767 @ July 28 2011,09:59)Hi Pierre:You say:Quote the WORD is Christ and always was the son of God because he is the one for all thing were createdIt is true that God created all things knowing that a point in time He would bring forth His Only Begotten Son and His Christ through whom He would…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2011,04:42)Quote (942767 @ July 28 2011,02:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,13:47)Quote (942767 @ July 26 2011,19:37)Proverbs: 8 is speaking of Wisdom, but may refer indirectly to Jesus since God made every thing by him and for him, but it says nothing about Jesus being the first creature that God created.  This…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:You say:Quote the WORD is Christ and always was the son of God because he is the one for all thing were createdIt is true that God created all things knowing that a point in time He would bring forth His Only Begotten Son and His Christ through whom He would reconcile humanity to Himself. And it is true that Jesus is God's heir and we…[Read more]

Hi Kathi:You state:Quote I made a whole thread about the firstborn of/over all creation last year. The 'of' or 'over' doesn't take away from the fact that He was begotten 'of' God and it is that fact that determines His nature and to which group He is a member.The fact that determines his nature is not that he was begotten of the Father but the…[Read more]