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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 10 months ago

    Hi Mike,So i'm clear I want to prove with scripture that Jesus should be worshipped and called our God and Savior. Its is only through the Fathers radiance (Hebrews 1:3, glory of his substance, the only begotton God) that we have access to the Father. See I want everyone to understand what it means for Jesus to be *the* one and only Son and the…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2013,10:37)Quote (4Thomas @ Nov. 10 2013,17:44)Hey I wont be on here for a wee while as I have some important stuff I need to do.More BBQs to enjoy?  :)Okay.  See ya when you get back.Until then, I wish nothing but peace, love, and understanding for you and yours.Thanks Mike, no not for a BBQ this time :)I really a…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2013,10:34)Quote (4Thomas @ Nov. 03 2013,16:43)………its great to know you dont think Jesus is an arch angel or some other angel.I didn't say that last part, Daniel.  :)Jesus is of course an angel of his and our God Jehovah, since he is a spirit messenger of Jehovah – and that's all “angel” means.Thanks for clarifing…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    T,can you please stop bearing FALSE witness, I have never said the Son is the Father or the Son is more powerful than the Father. You you say this again I will have no other choice but to classifie you by your actions of lying.I'm here because I care and Want you to KNOW that Jesus wasn't a Son of God like the Jews who killed him!!Its YOU that…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 31 2013,11:48)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 29 2013,17:58)New International VersionNo one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.Okay Daniel,Let's discuss each of those “proof texts”, one at a time, and find out if they REALLY say what you…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2013,10:52)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,11:14)I NEVER SAID THAT CHRIST WAS AN ARCH ANGEL ,THIS IS YOUR INVENTION Agreed, Pierre.  I have also told Daniel on a number of occasions that I have NEVER claimed Jesus was an “archangel”.Daniel, the question is whether or not Jesus, the Son of the Most High God, also IS…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,11:51)DanielHeb 1:1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. Heb 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the e…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2013,11:02)DanielQuote Its real SIMPLE.Jeus became the Son of Man.Do you question he is a man?????Let me ask you HOW CAN JESUS BE THE SON OF MAN and Man of that Son?????this does not make sense at all.Quote Do you agree he was God or a god.Christ ,the only begotten son of God ;his not GOD almighty but yes he is “a god”Quote Jo…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2013,10:52)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,11:14)I NEVER SAID THAT CHRIST WAS AN ARCH ANGEL ,THIS IS YOUR INVENTION Agreed, Pierre.  I have also told Daniel on a number of occasions that I have NEVER claimed Jesus was an “archangel”.Daniel, the question is whether or not Jesus, the Son of the Most High God, also IS…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,04:14)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 24 2013,11:28)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,12:17)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 24 2013,06:13)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:36)danielQuote are you saying you want me to show the scriptures where Jesus is called God? This is very easy and I have already done this multiple times.yes but…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,12:17)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 24 2013,06:13)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:36)danielQuote are you saying you want me to show the scriptures where Jesus is called God? This is very easy and I have already done this multiple times.yes but not Thomas the sceptik and the loser ,Quote 2: Is he true God not made.Life…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Hi Mike,Its CLEAR the Watch tower taught Jesus should be Worshipped and there is NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO SAY OTHERWISE. This is because its the truth and its hard to argue with the truth even if you believe its ok to bend it.Rutherford teaches he is the EXPRESS image and for this reason he should be Worshipped Watchtower 1939 November 15…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:36)danielQuote are you saying you want me to show the scriptures where Jesus is called God? This is very easy and I have already done this multiple times.yes but not Thomas the sceptik and the loser ,Quote 2: Is he true God not made.Life in the NAME of Jesus -NO Condemnation in his name or in him. take care t.Daniel

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 22 2013,18:23)Mike but if the Watch Tower taught for around 80 years that Jesus SHOULD *BE* Worshipped, and then NO-ONE can show me a single example before 1950 in any of there documentation that they taught Jesus should NOT be worshipped.1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version And David…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 16 2013,12:27)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 13 2013,18:27)Important NOte: the Son is not another Father, he doesn't in turn generate another Son, he is generated eternaly to reciperate Love back to the Father.But Daniel, it seems that all of your “Important Notes” are man-made doctrines – and not found in any scripture.Where in…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2013,17:22)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 15 2013,11:06)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2013,00:04)DanielQuote I have said this before and this is what i truly believe that scripture teaches, The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God.this is the believe in the TRINITY  ,what is definitely NOT SUPPORTED IN THE…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2013,00:04)DanielQuote I have said this before and this is what i truly believe that scripture teaches, The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God.this is the believe in the TRINITY  ,what is definitely NOT SUPPORTED IN THE SCRIPTURES   THE LOOPHOLES THAT MEN DO NOT SEE ;1CO 13:1 If I speak with the t…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2013,00:04)DanielQuote I have said this before and this is what i truly believe that scripture teaches, The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God.this is the believe in the TRINITY  ,what is definitely NOT SUPPORTED IN THE SCRIPTURES   THE LOOPHOLES THAT MEN DO NOT SEE ;1CO 13:1 If I speak with the t…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2013,03:23)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 10 2013,22:49)Oh or are you going to use the very dodgy new world translation from the watch tower that ***ADDS***** the words ALL ***OTHER** things where created. Because they dont want to admit that Jesus is eternal.You mean like many translations add the word “other” into verses like…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 12 2013,09:58)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 11 2013,10:01)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2013,11:24)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 11 2013,05:56)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2013,23:38)Quote (4Thomas @ Oct. 10 2013,11:34)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2013,14:23)DanielQuote Peter and Paul call him *our* God, why dont you????I have ask to produce the…[Read more]

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