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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,21:46)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,03:58)DanielQuote T, I honestly don't understand how you can worship the Father alone, when *no-one* has direct access to the Father.    I worship the Father and Son and the Holy Spirit, in unity and in Spirit where the Father and Son dwell.I honestly don't know how you could W…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,12:53)DANIELQuote Romans 9:5New International VersionTheirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.DID YOU READ THE FOOT NOTES ON THAT VERSE ???NET ©To them belong the patriarchs, 1  and from them, 2  by human descent, 3  came the Chr…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,15:14)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 30 2013,09:44)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:13)danielno one is created from nothing ;out of nothing comes nothing ;the son comes out of the father and all other creation has been THROUGH  the sonHi t,So you think the Son is like a funnel, Matter was created out of nothing.Before…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:13)danielno one is created from nothing ;out of nothing comes nothing ;the son comes out of the father and all other creation has been THROUGH  the sonHi t,So you think the Son is like a funnel, Matter was created out of nothing.Before the incarnation of the Word, the Word was pure Spirit.Are you saying that…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2013,11:20)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 18 2013,21:49)Jesus is eternally generated by the Fathers eternal expressive and active power.I can't read that in any scripture, Daniel.  So how do YOU know such a thing?The fact is that you DON'T know it, but claim it anyway.Also, your post didn't come close to addressing any of the…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi T,I agree all the Son does is for the Father, BUT all the Father does is for the Son also.Its clear that scripture teaches that all things are created through him and ***FOR*** him.The Church the Son is for the Father. Just like Eve is for Adam. Do you understand?oh just wanted to say I probably wont be on hear for a while, as i'm on holidays…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,16:19)danielyou present me with those scriptures that says ;1)”All things have been committed to me by my Father 2)JN 8:28 So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.this is the answer of m…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,10:44)Hi Daniel,Long time, no talk.  :)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 04 2013,17:08)The Father is unbegotten………The Son is begotten……….Can you see the difference then?  Why would we never say the Father was begotten?  Because we all assert that the Father had no beginning.  What then, does it mean that the Son IS be…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,10:22)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 18 2013,04:53)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 17 2013,15:31)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:11)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 17 2013,05:24)Please read what I have written carefully I only write it because I want you to be saved.With loveDanieldanielQuote If you want to answer any question please…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 17 2013,15:31)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:11)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 17 2013,05:24)Please read what I have written carefully I only write it because I want you to be saved.With loveDanieldanielQuote If you want to answer any question please answer this so I can see what you think is truth.Is Jesus ***YOUR***1: true…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:11)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 17 2013,05:24)Please read what I have written carefully I only write it because I want you to be saved.With loveDanieldanielQuote If you want to answer any question please answer this so I can see what you think is truth.Is Jesus ***YOUR***1: true Saviour2: true God3: true Angel4: true…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Please read what I have written carefully I only write it because I want you to be saved.With loveDaniel

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2013,16:08)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 16 2013,10:01)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2013,10:14)DanielQuote All I want is for you is to know you are saved. I want you to ***accept him, Jesus*** as your God. Who is the only Begotten God. Then accept the vast list of explicit scriptures that reveal he should be worshipped.Mt 4:10…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2013,05:00)Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 09 2013,18:00)John 1:3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.T, Scripture—Teaches that Jesus was NOT made – its very explicit and cant be refuted – Nothing was made that **HAS** ***been*** made. Not only did Jesus made ALL things he made e…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2013,10:14)DanielQuote All I want is for you is to know you are saved. I want you to ***accept him, Jesus*** as your God. Who is the only Begotten God. Then accept the vast list of explicit scriptures that reveal he should be worshipped.Mt 4:10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lor…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2013,14:48)danielQuote T, can you divide the un-begotten Father from begotten Son, please explain, i came interested in why you hold onto your beliefts as they are weak when exposed to scripture.1Co 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 10 months ago

    Hi T,i'm away for a few days so probably wont have time to check this so please take your time to read what I have written. Take care.Life in the Son and in his name. **NO condemnation in him**Daniel

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 10 months ago

    Hi T,So what does temptation mean read James 1:4 Jesus certainly wasn't actually tempted. you try and quote verse 13 in James 1 in isolation to the direct verse that followsHe is the explicit definition of temptation FROM scripture.James 1:14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.Please refute…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 10 months ago

    Thanks T,I love it! It just keeps getting better and better. What Jesus was quoting from the Old Testament was in reference to idol gods that are not God by nature….Satan tried to get Jesus as the Son of Man to worship him. Of course Satan was going to try this on, an unbelievable opportunity because the only begotten God was made flesh.Jesus s…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 10 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2013,10:29)Danielthink ,if God almighty pull out a rope and the first to hang from the rope is his son ,then the son hang a rope down and now the rest of creation and finally men hang of that rope ;tell me who holds the top position on that rope ??? God right and so as it seems to some that the one that hold there live on…[Read more]

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