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    Hi Mike,It must be obvious that the weight of proof is heavy against your Interpretation. I will answer your other comments especially the important one you have about adressing one point at a time. One thing I need to quickly answer no I don't think the Holy Spirit is another Son. The Holy Spirit is the expressed image of the relationship between…[Read more]

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    Mike, where have you solidly refuted these scriptures ???Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,We can baptize in the name of Jesus because it is the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit. This is explicit “God breathed scripture”I could show you…[Read more]

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    Hi mike,thanks for your patience.The Father, Son and Holy Spirit share the same name.Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, We can baptize in the name of Jesus because it is the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit. This is explicit “God b…[Read more]

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    Islam and the jews still deny that God the Word came in the flesh – why follow that great city where jesus was crucified?? she indeed sits on 7 moutains, they are showed even in scripture and she has indeed been drunk on the saints blood that she killed. She has killed the prophets just as she has killed the Lord of Glory. She is waiting for her…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,15:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2013,12:44)Quote (jammin @ April 10 2013,21:15)of course jesus is not God the father.you must also know that there is God the only son.That adds up to TWO Gods, jammin.  I believe in ONE Almighty God.LOLwhy did you say ALMIGHTY?bec you believe that there is also god right? LOLi…[Read more]

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    Quote I will always be honest, and as direct as I can with you, Daniel.  If I am wrong about any scriptural understanding I currently hold, then I am “honestly” wrong.  In other words, I don't PRETEND to believe certain things just because my pre-conceived doctrine or understanding requires it.If I believed the scriptures taught that Jesus was G…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,17:18)thomasQuote Jesus is God, not the Father but God the Son John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.or even if you say “a” God, the Word is not an angel is it?is Christ not the greatest messenger ever ??? yes he his ;angel means messengerTerrariccaOk I didn't explain…[Read more]

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    Thanks for being honest, but mike this is not true.But first: Jesus doesn't give up his name he shares with the Father, Jesus is called the Lamb of God on earth and identified by this name multiple times in revelations among many other names given to Jesus. Jesus is God, not the Father but God the Son John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2013,14:33)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 26 2013,18:39)1: Wisdom is defined as a female Hi Daniel,The following is from Wiki:If by “gender” is meant grammatical gender, the gender of “Holy Spirit” varies according to the language used. Thus the grammatical gender of the word “spirit” is masculine in Latin (“spiritus”) and in…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2013,05:10)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 21 2013,21:16)Pro 8:23  I WAS SET UP FROM ETERNITY , and of old, before the earth was made. Mic 5:2  But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been f…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,20:06)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2013,13:41)Hi Daniel,Do you know any Hebrew?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDaniel?Sorry about the delay Ed,I have a very limited understanding of hebrew.To be honest even if someone has a degree in ancient hebrew I wouldn't take their comments seriously without…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,15:27)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 21 2013,17:02)That would be the name the Father and Son are known as in the old testament. YHWHOr didn't the Father descend on a cloud and apss before Moses and talk with him? Exodus 34:5-75 Now the Lord descended in the cloud and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord. 6 And…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,15:32)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 22 2013,17:16)Pro 8:23  I WAS SET UP FROM ETERNITY , and of old, before the earth was made.4Thomas, We understand that before creation of the heavens (time and space) there was the Word that was with God. So yes he came from eternity. But that doesn't mean that he has always been.The Father was…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:18)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 20 2013,22:01)And who that is capable of entertaining reverential thoughts or feelings regarding God, can suppose or believe that God the Father ever existed, even for a moment of time, without having generated this Wisdom?Wherefore we have always held that God is the Father of His…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 21 2013,19:22)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 20 2013,20:01)Thanks KathiI must remember to *proof* read these posts before sending them. I started reading some posts on this site regarding Origen. Wanted to see if this was accurate so done some of my own reading. Very *interestingly* he believes what you and I do.That the Father is…[Read more]

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    Thanks KathiI must remember to *proof* read these posts before sending them. I started reading some posts on this site regarding Origen. Wanted to see if this was accurate so done some of my own reading. Very *interestingly* he believes what you and I do.That the Father is eternally Father.This is common sense to those that haven't had the…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 21 2013,11:13)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 20 2013,13:56)Hi Ed,I believe in an Eternal *Almighty Father* which demands that their is a Eternal Son of God.This is what scripture says.Hebrews 5:5 In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You are my Son; today I have become…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2013,14:25)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 19 2013,19:57)So the Father can't be referred to as the Lord saves or “YHWH saves”?That was a question to you not a statement.:D  Yeah, I was thinking it must be a question!  :)NETNotes says:Jesus = “Jehovah is salvation”Joshua or Jehoshua = “Jehovah is salvation”Those names are given to p…[Read more]

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    Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 20 2013,12:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2013,12:43)The name “YHWH saves” is “Joshua” in Hebrew, “Iesous” in Greek, and “Jesus” in English.The Father isn't named “Joshua”, Daniel.  His name is YHWH.  In English, we generally say “Yahweh”, or “Jehovah”.The name “YHWH saves” is “Joshua” in Hebrew, “Iesous” in Greek, and “…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2013,12:43)The name “YHWH saves” is “Joshua” in Hebrew, “Iesous” in Greek, and “Jesus” in English.The Father isn't named “Joshua”, Daniel.  His name is YHWH.  In English, we generally say “Yahweh”, or “Jehovah”.The name “YHWH saves” is “Joshua” in Hebrew, “Iesous” in Greek, and “Jesus” in English.yes agreeMatthew 1…[Read more]

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