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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 5 months ago

    Hi Mike,Quote Is an angel of God a “spirit son of God”?  YES or NO?YES but not a true Son that comes from the Father alone like Jesus, all angels are created Son’s by Jesus so the Sons are creature spirit Sons because they are created.Quote Is Jesus a “spirit son of God”?  YES or NO? YES, The Father is Spirit, and as the Son is the same ess…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2013,06:59)Daniel,I know your time is limited, so let's get down to the heart of this matter.1.  Do you believe there exists only ONE Most High God Jehovah?  YES or NO?Hi Mike,YES only one true God all others are false Gods.So yes One Almighty in essence/nature but this nature is eternally expressed, The Father is the S…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,19:56)Hi Daniel, Just exactly how do you figure that the “HolySpirit” is (according to you) a separate person from “God”?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,I can with scripture, and will do for you, Sorry, just now I have other commitments with Mike.Please make sure you remind me as I want…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 5 months ago

    Hi Mike,Exodus 23:21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.There is a huge different between putting your name in someone to bear and actually giving them your name so people start calling you Yahweh. We should never call Angels Yahweh Mike, this…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 5 months ago

    Hi T8,What you say is right regarding most of the prophets, this is the honest truth but the Lord wants to show you more than just the following“When there is a prophet among you,I, the Lord , reveal myself to them in visions,I speak to them in dreams.T8 I like you and Mike, I see that you are both sincere with your beliefs.I honestly believe y…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2013,11:52)Quote (4Thomas @ May 29 2013,00:55)No matter what you say the president will always be a human and so will anyone he sends, unless he sends a different species or animal. Your argument will always fail becuase you think true Fathers and true Sons can have different natures/essence.Oh, I'm quite sure that Jesus…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,My lord Jesus the Christ, the only true and eternal Son of the true eternal Father loves you and wants you to accept him as your true lord and Saviour, every question you ask, the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit opens the scriptures more explicitly and clearly. Since being on this heaven net site I have never had so much revealed so easily and…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2013,13:27)Quote (4Thomas @ May 28 2013,00:23)What I mean here is that everything originates from the one being the Father………Agreed.  And that “everything” includes God's firstborn Son.Daniel, even the words “firstborn” and “son” should be a dead giveaway.  Quote (4Thomas @ May 28 2013,00:23)Again imagine seeing s…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2013,12:25)Wait………… so you think “the rock that accompanied them” is someone other than the angel that accompanied them?You think both Christ AND an angel of Jehovah accompanied the Israelites in the wilderness?God is the rock in the old testament, this is what scripture teaches this is what I believe.Is there…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,12:53)Quote (4Thomas @ May 27 2013,19:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,05:50)You said in the other thread that you believe that the rock in 1 Cor 10:4 was Jesus Christ.Is this correct?YesAnd are you aware that this one who accompanied the Israelites in the wilderness was an angel of Jehovah?  (Exodus 14:19;…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2013,10:49)DanielQuote If you can explain to me how the Sun could exist without expressing its glory with all the Light that reaches us and sustains our worlds growth and energy, then that would explain how the Father was at some stage not a Father.how can God almighty be compered against his own creation ???the glory of…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,13:12)Quote (4Thomas @ May 27 2013,19:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,11:47)Hi Daniel,It's also common sense that a father and son are not the same BEING – wouldn't you agree?Hi Mike,………if your Son came from you alone and not from his Mother also then it would be impossible to gentically tell you apart. You…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,05:50)Hi Daniel,I just found this thread………… sorry.  :)Instead of starting with Galatians, let me see if we can nip this in the bud right from the start.  You said in the other thread that you believe that the rock in 1 Cor 10:4 was Jesus Christ.Is this correct?Hi Mike,YesLife in the Son and in his nameDaniel

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,11:47)Quote (4Thomas @ May 26 2013,19:26)A true Son is the same as a true father, except they are different persons this is common sense………..Hi Daniel,It's also common sense that a father and son are not the same BEING – wouldn't you agree?Hi Mike,100% different persons but the thing is if your Son came from…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2013,12:55)Quote (4Thomas @ May 27 2013,07:26)Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2013,00:28)danielQuote Life in the Son and in his nameDaniel lets be true ;live his given by God almighty to all of his creation  even to the son ; but wen Adam descender at the time of Noah God was ready to destroy all of creation,wipe them all…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2013,00:28)danielQuote Life in the Son and in his nameDaniel lets be true ;live his given by God almighty to all of his creation  even to the son ; but wen Adam descender at the time of Noah God was ready to destroy all of creation,wipe them all off;  BUT SOMEONE INTERCEDED FOR THEM ;JUST AS MOSES INTERCEDED FOR ISRAEL A…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,05:50)Hi Daniel,I just found this thread………… sorry.  :)Instead of starting with Galatians, let me see if we can nip this in the bud right from the start.  You said in the other thread that you believe that the rock in 1 Cor 10:4 was Jesus Christ.Is this correct?Thanks Mike,All good   :)And yes this is OK – bu…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2013,13:38)Hi Daniel,Let me say that I like you.  You seem to be a very nice man who wants only to know God as well as humanly possible.But I cannot carry on a discussion of this magnitude.  Until you set up our one-on-one debate thread, I will just pick any one or two points out of your posts, and address only them.I f…[Read more]

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    Place of the Skull, where jesus was crucified is in Jerusalem. “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. For behold, the days are coming when they will say, 'Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!' Then they will begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic Mystery Babylon in the forum View Points 11 years, 6 months ago

    Place of the Skull, where jesus was crucified is in Jerusalem. “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. For behold, the days are coming when they will say, 'Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!' Then they will begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall…[Read more]

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