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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2013,11:55)Quote (4Thomas @ July 08 2013,00:24)Sure there are some translation that INCORRECTLY use the word Angels for the word GOD but these are wrong.Hebrews 26 But there is a place where someone has testified:“What is mankind that you are mindful of them,    a son of man that you care for him?7 You made them a lit…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2013,12:49)Daniel,NEVERMIND MY LAST POST.  YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE THINGS.We need to start over, Daniel.  We're all over the place.  I suppose that in order to show you that Jesus is a god who is lesser than his own God Jehovah, I must first convince you that the Bible is loaded with many gods – just li…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2013,12:41)Hi Daniel,Please address these three things DIRECTLY for me.  They are the points of my last three posts, and I don't feel you actually addressed them.1.  Show me that the two scriptures I listed DON'T speak of gods other than Jehovah.2.  Either refute that Jesus was LESSER THAN his and our God, Jehovah, wh…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2013,03:50)Quote (4Thomas @ July 03 2013,19:50)Mike,Do you understand what a false God is?The phrase “false god” is nowhere to be found in ANY scripture, Daniel.  They are the words of translators who hope to protect the scriptures from themselves.Hi Mike,Demons, fallen angels who are FALSE gods EVEN believe in one…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Mike,Do you understand what a false God is?Its someone who trys to take the place of the one true God, example the Devil and his angels and man made gods.Its anything that is worshipped as the one true God.Mike, Jesus said we would die in our sins unless we believed “who” and “what” he is, so you think we need to believe he is an angel or true…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2013,11:49)Quote (4Thomas @ July 02 2013,00:42)You teach that Jesus isn't God and use a single very week scripture to try to prove this.A single scripture?  :)  I don't think things get resolved by posting a million “Jesus is NOT God” scriptures all at once.  I do it one scripture at a time.  Trust me – you'll eve…[Read more]

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    PrincessIts appears from what I read that you dont believe in evolution, this shows you are a free thinker who looks at facts. Please let me explain what I believe is the true God.Firstly he is a God who allows his creation total free will, total choice to twist and distort and corrupt.He is a God who reveals that ALL those laws and rules in the…[Read more]

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    KerwinQuote God does steer the affairs of man but the hatred comes from those in rebellion and the results from their actions just like a rock thrown into the air returns to the earth due to gravity and may injure or kill an innocent bystander. Yes, hatred comes from man and man’s hate twists Gods love to make God look like the advocator of this h…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2013,12:34)Daniel, for what seems like the hundredth time……………1.  No man has EVER seen Jehovah (except for Jesus).  Moses was allowed to see God's glory.  Many assume this refers to the “after-effects” of God passing by.Moses never actually saw God as any kind of form.  He never LITERALLY talked directly to…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2013,14:42)Quote (4Thomas @ June 28 2013,13:01)It doesn't change the nature of the employee though does it. Adam is like the Father and Eve is like the Son, both are truly different but still human………….Hmmm………….But are we able to see Eve's face without dying, but cannot see Adam's or else we will die?Is…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2013,14:42)Quote (4Thomas @ June 28 2013,13:01)It doesn't change the nature of the employee though does it. Adam is like the Father and Eve is like the Son, both are truly different but still human………….Hmmm………….But are we able to see Eve's face without dying, but cannot see Adam's or else we will die?Is…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2013,12:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,20:24)Quote (4Thomas @ June 20 2013,01:35) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Is it your intention to say that Jesus is a “YHWH” that CAN BE seen by human eyes, while the Father is a “YHWH” that CANNOT be seen by human eyes?  YES or NO?Yes, I believe we can't access the Father…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Mike,Hope all is well.I looked at this and asked the Lord to reveal what he wants you to know. I know it’s of the Lord because the scriptures became more and more compounding aligning together perfectly.Quote First of all, Satan is NEVER in ANY scripture EVER called a “false god”.  He IS called a god, both by Paul in 2 Cor 4:4, and by Je…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Mike,Quote But there are many gods described in the scriptures, and not one of them is ever called a “false god” or a “so-called god” in any scripture.How many idols and false gods are mentioned in the bible, Mike God even had to destroy the snake on the pole as the Jews started to worship this also… Satan is a fallen archangel he is the…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Mike,Just catching up and reading a few things will reply to you tomorrow.Take care.Life in the Word and in his nameDaniel

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 21 2013,12:46)From the “ISM” thread………………Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,18:35)The claim that there LITERALLY exists only ONE “el” was never taught in scripture, and was ushered in by Trinitarians who KNOW Jesus is called a god in at least 4 scriptures.  Their thinking was:  If we convince people that there i…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2013,15:21)Quote (942767 @ June 20 2013,07:57)Hi All:I found the following video on youtube, and I believe that it shows some pretty good evidence that the gospel of St. Matthew was originally witten in Hebrew, and apparently, there are some unpublished manuscripts of this gospel.  I had prayed and asked God that if…[Read more]

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    4Thomas replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Mike,Thanks for your reply. I have to go home as I been working late so cant reply. Also away with the family so it maybe a few days before I reply, but I will reply.Quote Before we go further into details and commentaries and lexicons on this passage, please answer this simple question: Is it your intention to say that Jesus is a “YHWH” that…[Read more]

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    SorryI stuffed things up here.Why are we here? No reasonWhats the point? NothingWhat created the big band? Nothingwhat i mean is that we make everything nothing That is if we dont believe in God.everything = nothing and we came from nothingif we dont believe in GodDaniel

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    Quote (princess @ June 16 2013,22:03)and the point was what T8? to prove your male deity exist? Didn't miss it, just took a different view of what you presented. What I find surprising especially with you is that you have studied quite a bit, been on both sides of the fence and still stand on the same conclusion or standard of a average christian.…[Read more]

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