Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 04 2013,02:49)4 Thomas………Explain this Adam the Son of God Was he an “adopted Son” or created So of God? Is he also your God as scripture clearly says he is a Son of God?.  Thou art the “ONLY” TRUE GOD” said Jesus, So who was the THOU, and what does “ONLY” mean to you?  If you believe Jesus is a true God you a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2013,03:24)Quote Jesus is my Lord and my Godthis is your view and so it is not from God ;you have taken Thomas a confused man that at first did not want to believe ,then he express himself in an emotional way still confused ,of the reality of his doubts ,and so you have pick him to be your guide you are not looking for…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 02 2013,01:16)Daniel………Then who was Jesus'. GOD, why would he need to go to HIS GOD and OUR GOD, if he was OUR GOD. , the word “AND”,  does not in most cases detect the same thing. Jesus said the father who is God was “in” him, so obviously  Gods presence was their, residing in Jesus, but that in no way makes J…[Read more]

Mike and David, thank you for your answers.Jesus is my Lord and my God and scripture reveals that he was also the God of Peter and Paul and Thomas.I understand there are many scriptures that show the servant Jesus became as a man but I honestly think its a sin *not* seperate and identify that Jesus had two natures, man and God in one person.Life…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2013,09:32)Quote (4Thomas @ Sep. 19 2013,19:08)Question, we know Satan is called THE God of this World in scripture but surely you would NOT call him or any other angel (fallen or not) your God?Absolutely not. But to those that belong to him, they could. YHWH is the God of the living not the dead.Amen, I agree.No angel should…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2013,12:07)Mmmmmm……………… BBQ!  It was yummy thanks…

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,14:24)Quote (4Thomas @ Sep. 25 2013,06:32)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,12:34)DanielQuote T, one question to show me YOUR TRUTH, please all you need to do answer the most fundermential question of JesusWhat is Jesus?A man aloneAn arch angeltrue God FROM and OF the Father with being true MANI AGREE ,BUT ONLY IF…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,12:34)DanielQuote T, one question to show me YOUR TRUTH, please all you need to do answer the most fundermential question of JesusWhat is Jesus?A man aloneAn arch angeltrue God FROM and OF the Father with being true MANI AGREE ,BUT ONLY IF YOU AGREE TO ALSO SPELL OUT WHAT JESUS CHRIST HIS NOT ,AGREED Jesus is not…[Read more]

Thanks Marty,Nice to see your views and I appreciate you replying to me.I believe Jesus pre-existed and then humbled himself to become a man.Scripture reveals the two natures/essence of Jesus1: The word was with God and the word was God. He with the father as the expressed image and one and only true Son who derives his nature from the Father…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2013,22:12)Quote (4Thomas @ Sep. 23 2013,13:48)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 23 2013,14:17)Hi Mike:This is what the scriptures state:Quote Idolatry Is Foolishness9 Those who make an image, all of them are useless,And their precious things shall not profit;They are their own witnesses;They neither see nor know, that they may be…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 23 2013,14:17)Hi Mike:This is what the scriptures state:Quote Idolatry Is Foolishness9 Those who make an image, all of them are useless,And their precious things shall not profit;They are their own witnesses;They neither see nor know, that they may be ashamed.10 Who would form a god or mold an imageThat profits him nothing?11…[Read more]

Hi Mike, T8 and David,Question, we know Satan is called THE God of this World in scripture but surely you would NOT call him or any other angel (fallen or not) your God? 2 Corinthians 4:44in whose case the God of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2013,10:38)Quote (4Thomas @ July 23 2013,18:33)So if we could just pray for each other at the moment and continue this debate in a few weeks that would be good.In Christ and only wanting the best for you Amen, my friend.I'm in no hurry.  Hi Mike,Hope all is well for you. Can probably start posting the odd comment now…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2013,10:27)Take your time, Daniel.  No rush here.  Thanks Mike,I really appreciate the manor in which you handle things, it says a lot about your character and the type of person you are. thank you.I need to suspend this debate for a while as I have a very close friend needing me for support for other things . I need t…[Read more]

Quote (david @ July 21 2013,13:59)Sorry, just noticed this was for mike and Thomas.  Mike, delete my comments.Just had time to read this and catch up, no worries David.You are welcome to join if you want to? but please dont overload me, this is the first time I have been able to check this forum since my last post 5 days ago.I also need to reply…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I have been praying about these things and the holy Spirit came to me with the following examples, they are EXTREME Common sense and I truly believe this will settle things once and for all.Should we call Satan or Beelzebub our God or Lord? No way yet doubting Thomas calls Jesus both his Lord and his God. This is explicit and a revelation…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 18 2013,10:39)Hi Daniel,I read your post, but I'm still waiting for an answer to my last question:  Do you agree that demons are fallen angels?And if so, then do you agree that Deuteronomy 32:17 also refers to angels as gods?Hi Mike,I believe fallen angels are demons. Yes people can make demons gods just like they can…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Should we have a debate that humans are angels or gods or lords?  Notice your translation uses *earthly* Lords most translations use masters.  Colossians 3:22Slaves, obey your earthly lords in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.Angels a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2013,13:24)Quote (4Thomas @ July 14 2013,19:15)Mike, where does Jesus fit in the commandment?Are we to love him with ALL our heart soul and mind or treat him as a neighbor and just love him as ourself?Absolutely the LXX version of Psalm 8:5 has “aggelos” (angels).  And I've heard that Jesus and the disciples quoted the…[Read more]

Thanks Mike, OK thats fairHebrews 2:66But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that you are mindful of him? or the son of man that you visit him? 7You made him a little lower than the angels… So now I need to look at the old testament and see what one is correct and what one Paul was referring to… So far from what I can see…[Read more]