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    2besee replied to the topic in the forum The Shepherd of Hermas 13 years, 1 month ago

    Yes so, interesting how the Shepherd of Hermas was considered as Canon, and the Shepherd called the Son of God the Holy Spirit. Also, interesting about Paul.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,11:33)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,15:24)Yes, I agree with you about the resurrected bodies, but that has nothing to do with what was. (i.e that God is spirit), IMO.Well then, I'm lost.  :)I thought we were discussing the fact that God and His spirit sons also have bodies – just not made of flesh.Mike I do not know…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 10 2013,11:04)Mike , 2beese, and all,Quote 1 Corinthians 15:44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.What does “spiritual body” mean?It means ual body.A Spirit quickened body as opposed to a soul quickened body.Romans 8:11King James Version (KJV)11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,10:11)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,02:20)it does not however say as you just did that “spirits have spiritual bodies.” 1st Cor is talking about what will be for those who are risen from the dead1 Corinthians 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.What does “spiritual body” mean?1 Corinthians…[Read more]

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    Mike, you might want to read this:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….8;st=50

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    2besee replied to the topic in the forum The Shepherd of Hermas 13 years, 1 month ago

    Further from Wikipedia: Notice in bold the earliest canon listed by Irenaeus – A four gospel canon (the Tetramorph) was asserted by Irenaeus, c. 160, who referred to it directly. An insistence upon there being a canon of four gospels, and no others, was a central theme of Irenaeus of Lyons, c. 185. In his central work, Adversus Haereses Irenaeus…[Read more]

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    2besee replied to the topic in the forum The Shepherd of Hermas 13 years, 1 month ago

    This is not to do with “The Shepherd” really but nevertheless: is to do with canon.From Wikipedia:Marcion of Sinope Marcion of Sinope, a bishop of Asia Minor who went to Rome and was later excommunicated for his views, was the first of record to propose a definitive, exclusive, unique canon of Christian scriptures, compiled sometime between…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 07 2013,08:30)Dont fear him that can destroy the flesh,but can not touch the soul,but fear him that can destroy the flesh and the soul,and cast them into hell.Wakeup, one more question :)What do you believe “hell” is?Do you believe in eternal conscious torment?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:49)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)Hi Wakeup,So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?2Besee.The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has to be in the same spot where the dome is.To rebuild the temple;the dome…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,15:01)2Besee.The resurrection:1.Jesus;first and the 24 elders,followed.rev.4:10.They are in heaven now.Resurrection of the majority at the second coming:Wakeup, I think that there would be more than just Jesus and the 24 elders in heaven right now, don't you?I believe that the good die and are taken up to heaven to be…[Read more]

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    2besee replied to the topic Mystery Babylon in the forum View Points 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,15:01)2Besee.The resurrection:1.Jesus;first and the 24 elders,followed.rev.4:10.They are in heaven now.Resurrection of the majority at the second coming:Wakeup, I think that there would be more than just Jesus and the 24 elders in heaven right now, don't you?I believe that the good die and are taken up to heaven to be…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,14:14)No rush 2B.  We have once again strayed WAY off topic, huh?  :)  But this is now one of my favorite threads.  There sure is a “pot luck” of ideas out there – some I never would have imagined in a million years.But that is why we're on this site, right – to talk about scriptural understandings, and sort out the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,11:13) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,03:37)God is spirit and you cannot see spirit.Humans generally cannot see spirit beings.  God does, on rare occasions, open the eyes of human beings so that they CAN see spirit beings.  (2 Kings 6:17, Numbers 22:31)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,03:37)But it does not have the b…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,00:22)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,15:51)Kerwin, if you don't mind me asking, How long have you been studying scripture for? The reason I ask is because…. I have not read the OT from beginning to end, though I have the NT. It appears that you have, maybe?2beesee,I have been looking into these things for around 2…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike, will get to your posts later :)

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    Kerwin and Abe,Greek analysis:'The right hand therefore of God exalted and promise of the Holy Spirit received from the Father poured this which you both behold and hear.'http://biblos.com/acts/2-33.htmI have gone into the strong words individually with this.To me this is just saying that the Holy Spirit was poured out, not that Jesus RECEIVED…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 08 2013,11:17)Do you think I am off my rocker?Abe, I meant to say “No”, I look forward to reading your posts :)

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    Hi Wakeup,So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

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    …Wakeup, I meant scripture regarding the resurrection, as you mentioned. I need to study that more.

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    2besee replied to the topic Mystery Babylon in the forum View Points 13 years, 1 month ago

    …Wakeup, I meant scripture regarding the resurrection, as you mentioned. I need to study that more.

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