Hi Mike and all,I would like to move on now. What I would like to look at is: What is Jesus Now? i.e. AFTER the resurrection. So I will start up a new thread, perhaps?

LU, I would say that “God's Wings” 'represent' the Son/Holy Spirit.“He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.  I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.  Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence.  He will cover you with hi…[Read more]

Hi Abe,Could you explain to me, your opinion on the heavenly Jerusalem?Thank you Abe.I was trying to find where you made a certain post, but I cannot find it, so will post here.

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2013,11:16)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 11 2013,08:31)Okay Ed,I think that I get you now.My answer is:God created and caused all to be through the Holy Spirit.'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth……..The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 10 2013,22:05)Revelation 1:7   Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. He will destroy babylon from the air,and it will only take one day.                     *****************Wheresoever the carcas is…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 11 2013,09:08)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,13:41)Yes so, interesting how the Shepherd of Hermas was considered as Canon, and the Shepherd called the Son of God the Holy Spirit. Also, interesting about Paul.Hi 2b,Why do you also call the Holy Spirit  God??Peace brother..Hi Abe, (And T),Deuteronony 4 To you it was shown, that you…[Read more]

Okay Ed,I think that I get you now.My answer is:God created and caused all to be through the Holy Spirit.'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth……..The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters….' So, the Holy Spirit is the active…[Read more]

Daniel 7. As I looked,thrones were placedand one that was ancient of days took his seat;his raiment was white as snow,and the hair of his head like pure wool;his throne was fiery flames,its wheels were burning fire. A stream of fire issuedand came forth from before him;a thousand thousands served him,and ten thousand times ten thousand stood…[Read more]

Hi Ed,How can I address your point, if I do not understand what you are saying?Quote you : “If the “Holy Spirit” is a son of God and Jesus is also a son of God. Would not Jesus then be “the Grandson of God” instead?” : Unquote you.Quote you again…”If… the Holy Spirit….. is a son of God…. and Jesus is also a son of God” .. (Okay, got you so…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2013,09:15)Hi 2Besee, If the “Holy Spirit” is a son of God and Jesus is also a son of God.Would not Jesus then be “the Grandson of God” instead? This is the second exposed dilemma in your theory.The first was: If the son of God is the HolySpirit then he birthed (or fathered) himself. Remember me pointing out this dilemma to y…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,21:05) It makes perfect sense that both Jesus Christ AND the Holy Spirit are two different “sons of God”?Are you sure?Mike, Are you having difficulty understanding that God could be the Father to more than one Son?Do you think it is impossible for God to be your Father?Do you think that it is impossible for God to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2013,08:40)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 10 2013,16:15)Mike,I cannot give you the scriptures one by one because it is the scriptures as a whole. What you ask is impossible, unless you want to go through the entire bible with me??What we each learn as truth only God can show us. Why do you think that man goes astray? They may feel safe…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 10 2013,23:40)Mike,As is common to man, you see what you want to see. 2beesee and I choose see something different than you.  They must lock up many that choose to use imagery in there speech.Yes Kerwin, I understand you perfectly.

Wakeup, “Oceania” (You thought that I was from the Country of “San Anthonio” and i said, no, I am somewhere in “Oceania”

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,22:25)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,19:50)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:49)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)Hi Wakeup,So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?2Besee.The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2013,17:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,09:03)Gene, it's clear to me that you've NEVER in your life believed that the Holy Spirit was God's Son.  Neither you, nor Kerwin, have ever mentioned such a thing in the time I've been on HN.  I believe you guys are only jumping on this crazy train now because you hope 2…[Read more]

Mike,I cannot give you the scriptures one by one because it is the scriptures as a whole. What you ask is impossible, unless you want to go through the entire bible with me??What we each learn as truth only God can show us. Why do you think that man goes astray? They may feel safe in their beliefs, but is this any guarantee that they have truth in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,09:03)Gene, it's clear to me that you've NEVER in your life believed that the Holy Spirit was God's Son.  Neither you, nor Kerwin, have ever mentioned such a thing in the time I've been on HN.  I believe you guys are only jumping on this crazy train now because you hope 2B will be able to use this unscriptural c…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 10 2013,12:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,11:33)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,15:24)Yes, I agree with you about the resurrected bodies, but that has nothing to do with what was. (i.e that God is spirit), IMO.Well then, I'm lost.  I thought we were discussing the fact that God and His spirit sons also have bodies – just…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,11:33)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,15:24)Yes, I agree with you about the resurrected bodies, but that has nothing to do with what was. (i.e that God is spirit), IMO.Well then, I'm lost.  I thought we were discussing the fact that God and His spirit sons also have bodies – just not made of flesh.Here is a modern…[Read more]