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    Kerwin, I can only talk about something for so long, otherwise it becomes the bore to any listeners, including ourselves. I leanrt heaps though. Thanks all (:

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    Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,23:50)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,21:06)Colter,Quote The Pagan doctrine of human sacrifice is an insult to the life of Love that Jesus lived. That is a true statement applied in a false way.Anyone with eyes to see can see that the Jewish hierarchy and the Roman government did not sacrifice Jesus to their gods.  In…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,16:31)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,13:10)Gosh, t8, all of those “theos/gods”!!Yes, I was an Arian myself, once (not too long ago).He is teaching the Greek usage of theos. It can be applied to the Most High, Angels, Men, Satan, idols, etc.You can't change Greek, you can only accept it and learn it. Rejecting Greek is not…[Read more]

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    2besee replied to the topic in the forum The Shepherd of Hermas 13 years, 1 month ago

    Abe,Can you tell me a bit more.The Heavenly Jerusalem is related to the Holy Spirit in what way?You can send me a Private Message with your post if you would rather post in private, up to you.(Click the word 'PM' under my post).I am interested in your view.

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    ..Don't forget “Hermas” (also canon in the earliest church)..Quote:Fifth Similitude:………………..The field is this world; and the Lord of the field is He who created, and perfected, and strengthened all things; and the son is the Holy Spirit………………….The holy, pre-existent Spirit, that created every creature, God made to dwell…[Read more]

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    Kerwin, Mike and all,This is from Wikipedia: Notice in bold the earliest canon listed by Irenaeus – A four gospel canon (the Tetramorph) was asserted by Irenaeus, c. 160, who referred to it directly. An insistence upon there being a canon of four gospels, and no others, was a central theme of Irenaeus of Lyons, c. 185. In his central work,…[Read more]

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    Quote Billions and millions are babtised with water.Just look at the fruits? Have they changed? No.Is the christian world ONE in the Lord? No.Despite the water babtism,they have fallen away.I wash the outside of my car with water,not the inside.Water  babtism washes the dirt on your skin.Wakeup,Unless we have some type of an “antisocial disorder”…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,02:09)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 14 2013,16:18)Gene and Kerwin,I have only skimmed it, it is interesting though (spirit christology I think it is called). It is good to have a name for it.Peace.2beesee,Spirit christology is a label applied to the tenet that Jesus has always been a spirit being without a physical body.The…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,10:04)Origen wrote this in the early 200s.Enjoy.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 15 2013,06:27)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 14 2013,05:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 14 2013,14:09) There are two mentioned as 'God' in John 1:1…a child can count that. How blind can anyone be to deny this???Hi LU,There is one God in John 1:1, not two.James 2.19 'You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and s…[Read more]

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    Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 14 2013,13:46)I appreciate everyone's input. I thank you all.You are welcome JB,Join in with some conversations now and then.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 14 2013,14:09) There are two mentioned as 'God' in John 1:1…a child can count that. How blind can anyone be to deny this???Hi LU,There is one God in John 1:1, not two.James 2.19 'You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder'

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    Gene and Kerwin,I have only skimmed it, it is interesting though (spirit christology I think it is called). It is good to have a name for it.Peace.

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    Hi Wakeup,Quote The thief was not babtised with water,but he made it.You do not know if He was baptized with water, or was not!?It is a commandment of Jesus and of the Apostles.So, if it is a commandment, should we not listen, and teach others that it is a commandment?We are all sinners,We are all filthy.So when we are baptized, then we are…[Read more]

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    2besee replied to the topic in the forum The Shepherd of Hermas 13 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Abe,I was thinking about this today.Quote So the deposit, the seal of ownership, is the annointing of the spirit put into our heart, for what is to come.I get that!Quote That is the bride, also called the New Jerusalem, and what is to come is the Wife: Holy Jerusalem.Am working on this.I believe that there is a connection between those who are…[Read more]

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    Gene, that is good :)

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    2besee replied to the topic in the forum The Shepherd of Hermas 13 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Abe.So the deposit, the seal of ownership, is the annointing of the spirit put into our heart, for what is to come.That is the bride, also called the New Jerusalem, and what is to come is the Wife: Holy Jerusalem.Am I on the right track?

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    TYPO in last line – 2PETER 3

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    2besee replied to the topic Mystery Babylon in the forum View Points 13 years, 1 month ago

    TYPO in last line – 2PETER 3

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 13 2013,20:12) t8,People these days will have itching ears to listen to anything but the truth. Where what is written has come from is of more importance than who wrote it.t8, I was meaning in regards to prophecy.Babylon – I do not know.The Beast – I do not know.But I do believe that there is a 'spiritual element' to all, or…[Read more]

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