Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,10:57)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 31 2013,03:37)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,06:57)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2013,01:01)Gene,Is it believer or the Son that is in him that cries Abba, Father?What is Mike's answer?To all,Corrected.Kerwin, I believe it is the Spirit of the Son (Holy Spirit) and our own Spirit that cries “Abba…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,07:15)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:09)1Cor 2:11For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.Matthew 11:27All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the F…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,06:57)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2013,01:01)Gene,Is it believer or the Son that is in him that cries Abba, Father?What is Mike's answer?To all,Corrected.Kerwin, I believe it is the Spirit of the Son (Holy Spirit) and our own Spirit that cries “Abba Father”.'And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,06:38) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2013,12:06)Galatians 4:6King James Version (KJV)6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.And how does this one say the Spirit of God is the Son of God?  Think it out:  If the Spirit that God sent forth was the spirit <…[Read more]

The early church had no problem with it's christology, with the Holy Spirit being the Son of God and Jesus being a man who became one with the Holy Spirit. This has become foreign today because Logos Christianity has taken over. it was not foreign to the earliest church though.Quote:Journal of Pentecostal Theology.Spirit Christology,Myk habets…[Read more]

By the way, they did not get rid of Hermas due to it's chirstology, but because of its attitude toward sin and repentance, which I think they considered a little too harsh.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,06:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 29 2013,08:15)So can't you see in a real “SENSE” the Holy Spirit can be call the son of GOD, if it “DWELLS “in YOU then you are made a Son of GOD by that Sprit Dwelling in you.Gene,I think you are saying that the Spirit of God can METAPHORICALLY be called “the son of God” in the…[Read more]

Wakepup,”Peter did not say that the earth is going to melt at his coming”, you say.And it is “Only my assumption” Is it?2nd Peter 7;10;12 and 13, But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.But the day of the Lord will come like a thief,…[Read more]

Hi.The whole chapter of Rev 14 is clearly past, (Jerusalem 70AD and the 144000 sealed from the tribes of Israel)Now you see, the book clearly is not in any type of order and things are reiterated.The reason I am up to Rev 14 is because I had read from chapter 6 right through. I will go back over it.There is also more than one “Day of the…[Read more]

Thanks Abe. Honest, I was thinking about this all day. Now I'm reading Revelations (something else) so something might come to me, some connection.Come and join us in the discussion maybe.

Res, I'll post as I read, (even if it is a bit off topic).Rev 15:2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire, and them that had overcome the beast.John 16:33I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”The beast = The world?

Good to see you are still around

Abe, I'm still thinking..

Kerwin,It always pays to check. Also there is plagiarism (Passing off another persons writing as if it were your own, even if you have changed parts of it, not giving credit to the original author, or providing a link (if possible)).Another thing is altering another persons writing and quoting it as a quote (altered). There si much more ot that…[Read more]

Hi Res.I have not opened that book for a while but i will.I had a feeling the first time I ever read it that things were reiterated and not in chronological order apart from in some places. But I will look at the part you are talking about and get back to you as soon as I have finished.

That's enough for now

John 14:23.(Greek)Answered Jesus and said to him, if anyone love me, the word of me he will keep, and the Father of me will love him, and to him I come, and an abode with him will make.http://biblos.com/john/14-23.htmhttp://biblesuite.com/greek/2064.htmJohn 14:16'And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you…[Read more]

1Cor 12: 4-12Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of…[Read more]

Considered as canon earliest church.The Shepherd.Fifth Similitude:'The field is this world; and the Lord of the field is He who created, and perfected, and strengthened all things; and the son is the Holy Spirit.The holy, pre-existent Spirit, that created every creature, God made to dwell in flesh, which He chose. This flesh, accordingly, in which…[Read more]

Considered to be canon,  earliest church.Wisdom – Chapter 1 'Love uprightness you who are rulers on earth, be properly disposed towards the Lord and seek him in simplicity of heart;for he will be found by those who do not put him to the test, revealing himself to those who do not mistrust him.Perverse thoughts, however, separate people from God,…[Read more]