You understand now Ed

Quote (t8 @ June 07 2013,22:28)Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2013,21:28)Not true 2Besee! Revelation 3:12 clearly indicates that there will be other over-comers, besides just me and Jesus.But we do not overcome in our own strength.We overcome because of him. I think this is the point of 2b's post. If Jesus didn't overcome for us then none of us would…[Read more]

T8,You will have to ask Mike and Terraricca what all of the fuss is about, because it is the two of them who have disagreed with Paul's words, and choose to believe instead that there are multiple gods. They then tell us that we are ignoring the scriptures – then you are high fiving each other?Will leave them to it.

Quote Did you think we were proclaiming that Jesus was another God next to the bigger God or something?T8,I believe that that is what Mike and Terraricca believe but you will have to ask them.

Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,15:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2013,08:05)2B,I'd be happy with direct and honest answers to those 3 questions.MIKE2bee will not give your answers because if he does he will have to change his false belief about the scriptures and like he said HE DOES NOT BELIEVE THIS ,PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES BECAUSE…[Read more]

Hi Bod,The difference in Jesus and us is that Jesus was the only sinless man, the only one who overcome.

Mike,Quote 1. In 1 Cor 8:6, was Paul teaching that Jesus was LITERALLY our ONLY lord? YES or NO?Jesus is OUR only lord as in spiritually. Yes, we may address people as lords but that is only words and titles. Quote 2. Jehovah is called the Most High god OF gods in scripture. Who are some of these less high gods that Jehovah is the god OF?They are…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I'll get to your post later.

Quote (t8 @ June 07 2013,13:35)Do you agree that Jesus said, “ye are gods”?And did he quote “ye are gods, ye are all sons of the Most High God”?If I believe that and you do to, then how is it that you say I am Arian and you are not?Explain because I am confused.T8,'Yes', Jesus did say “ye are gods, all sons of the most high” – but the quoted…[Read more]

T8,It is not a label as you call it, it is a name for a particular type of christology, and Jehovah Witnesses are the modern day believers of arianism. That is why i called it that. I'm not using strategy, T8. I do not desire to change anyones thinking. I used to be an Arian type believer myself, and only God showed me something different when I…[Read more]

T8,Mike and terraricca DO say that Jesus is another god. They believe that John 1:1 says there are two gods.

Hi T8,That was good, and I honestly did give it a lot if thought. But yeah/nah.It is simply arianism/Jehovah witness-ism – the need to insist that other gods do exist which are real, and powerful, and supernatural, so that Jesus can pre-exist as some kind of 'other god', or an angel.Yes, “gods” DO exist, but only so called. IMO. (They are called…[Read more]

Quote And here is the solution. The Most High God in the Bible is identified as the Father.Okay. That's a point.I hear the rest of your points too. Will think about it.

Okay T8, so what do you do with the verses which i quoted one page back? I can find plenty more like those. You have not commented on them.

Quote I created a new acronym. ISM. It stands for all the isms out there that try to explain God. Trinitarianism, Binitarianism, Quadratarianism, etc.Don't forget to add “Henotheism” to the list, if you know what that is BTW if I sounded angry at all in my last post i was frustrated at my phone. It doesn't do what it should!

Hi T8,You said: (quote) “Finally the word elohim can be used to describe something that was exceedingly great like an earthquake or a city” (unquote)No.Here's the verses you quoted followed by the literal translation:Jonah 3:3 “So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly (elohim) great city,…[Read more]

Thank you Abe, I meant to add that.

Hi Abe

Hi T8.That is an interesting verse. This if my understanding of it:They were called gods, but as mortal men they will die, because in reality, that's all they were. So that is understandable with the verses which say that all “so called gods” will die/perish.I think the following explains it quite well.Gill's,I have said, ye are gods,…. In the…[Read more]

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