Your alliance or affiliation

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I could not find where any specific thread was so I need to start this one to be more informed of others on this forum.

If everyone would please post what affiliation you are with, (Baptist, Pentecost, Jehovah Witness, etc.

I think this will help when addressing a topic where someone is of a different faith or affiliation that you will never see eye to eye.
Thanks

November 11, 2012 at 3:31 am#319750

Blocked

I don't have an affiliation with any organized religion. How about you?

November 11, 2012 at 3:54 am#319751

Participant

I have a background in the Baptist, pentecostal, Church of Christ and Nazarene beliefs. Most of the protestant beliefs.

November 11, 2012 at 4:15 am#319753

Blocked

Forgive me, but of those denominations you listed, I couldn't tell you who teaches what.

November 11, 2012 at 5:47 am#319758

terraricca

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 11 2012,09:15)

Forgive me, but of those denominations you listed, I couldn't tell you who teaches what.

Mike

I concour ,and it is not important to know ,the scriptures is what counths

November 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm#319793

Participant

If you are a Baptist then it's understood you believe in certain things and don't believe in things like speaking in tongues.
Full Gospel believes in healing for the body is in the Atonement of Jesus. Jehovah Witness, Seventh Day, and Mormons have beliefs different from each other.

November 11, 2012 at 3:17 pm#319799

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I'm more familiar with the beliefs of the JWs than any others, because much of my family are Jehovah's Witnesses.

Like all religions, they too ADD man-made doctrines to the teachings of the scriptures. It seems all religions add their own rules – which is probably why I'm not a member of any religious organization.

For example, I can't just walk into a Kingdom Hall and ask to be baptized. There are RULES that I must follow first: a course to study, questions to be answered, oaths to take, etc.

I don't remember ANY disciple of Jesus placing these kinds of requirements on ANY person who wanted to be baptized.

Similarly, I asked a pastor at my friend's non-denominational church to baptize me a couple of years ago, and although there was no official course or questions, he insisted on meeting with me at a coffee house first to explain to me that baptism wasn't some kind of magic potion that was going to make everything in my life better. He felt he had to explain the “meaning” of baptism to me, and verify my intentions before agreeing to do the baptism.

Hmmmmm…………

November 11, 2012 at 6:14 pm#319819

terraricca

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Mike

I always remember the story of the 40 years old ,born blind man that Jesus make his eyes good ,and were the clergy of the time are questionning ,:)

November 11, 2012 at 6:18 pm#319820

Participant

mikeboll64,

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Well to most Christians baptism has a meaning addressed to their beliefs. My family is Church of Christ and they believe you must be baptized in their church to be saved because it is as important as the blood of Christ and confession of faith.

The reason for this post is just that, if a Mormon who believes in Joseph Smith, we will have nothing in common to share our faith about. All we will do is argue abut stuff that neither will accept.

November 12, 2012 at 11:01 pm#319985

Participant

Hi Rich,

Thanks for starting this thread as it can be helpful to understand what one's core beliefs are.

I became a Christian at the age of 12, and have thereafter heard religions message (as we all have).
I have never been a member of any institutionalized religion. But have been on a quest to learn them all.

As the bible says in 1Cor.13:7 Charity(Love in action) believes all things, I believed religions message
of a “Rapture”. But then I heard others say that the rapture was actually a false doctrine. So I then went
on a quest (as any good Christian should do) like the Bereans of Acts 11:17 to find out which view was correct.
And to my surprise, I found out that YHVH (GOD) is actually against people teaching the satanic RAPTURE DOCTRINE.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

November 12, 2012 at 11:02 pm#319986

Participant

(…continued)

Then another religiously believed doctrine came into question,
which is the doctrine of “The Trinity”. So once again I went to
my trusted AKJV Bible(74) going to work on this issue as well.
The results of over 40 years of research is answered (Here)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

November 12, 2012 at 11:02 pm#319987

Participant

(…continued)

Then I wondered about the words “The Spirit of Christ” located in Romans 8:9 and 1Peter 1:11,
meaning I wondered if “The Spirit of Christ” was just another way of saying the “HolySpirit”.
The results of my research into this matter can be found on the thread located (Here)

In addition to finding out the answers to these questions, my heavy research into the “AKJV Bible”(74) actually caused
me to discover the actual “proof of God's existence” had been encoded into the “Authorized” version. (Link to thread)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

November 12, 2012 at 11:03 pm#319988

Participant

So here's my story… (for those that are interested)

I don't usually talk about Theomatics(numbers in Scripture) with beginner Christians,
but Atheists and those claiming to be Agnostic is different, needing the exposure!
As personal testimony of “God” means absolutely NOTHING to these people.
So let me tell you mine: I've had my understanding of God for 30 years
before numbers (such as you see in my Posts) were introduced to me.

Have any of you ever seen the Jim Cary movie called: ‘Bruce Almighty’?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past one sign that says “Bridge Out” and then another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the “many signs”, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.
That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care” and still I kept seeing the number 54,
but didn't have a clue as to why? Then I was introduced to a book called Theomatics II by Author Del Washburn.

Or Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took
me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.

Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and God has called me
to write a book that now documents the very “PROOF of God's existence”.
I have no buffeting spirit, like the Apostle Paul had, as I have no ego.
YHVH=63 has even wrote about me in his book: “The Bible”=63.

This has only been done (as I see things) to be used as conclusive proof of GOD's existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of ‘crackpots’.
My good friend Gary Robb once said: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
But God's kingdom is “real” and the extent of this proof is yet to be revealed to all.

Sorry for the long Autobiography, but it is necessary to this thread.
Numbers are corroborative evidence ONLY; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

November 12, 2012 at 11:20 pm#319989

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,11:14)

Mike

I always remember the story of the 40 years old ,born blind man that Jesus make his eyes good ,and were the clergy of the time are questionning ,:)

Yep.

November 12, 2012 at 11:41 pm#319991

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Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 11 2012,11:18)

The reason for this post is just that, if a Mormon who believes in Joseph Smith, we will have nothing in common to share our faith about. All we will do is argue abut stuff that neither will accept.

I can go along with that, Rich. Discussing the Trinity Doctrine, or whether or not Jesus pre-existed, still results in heated arguments. And it seems no one ever adjusts their beliefs in the end. But at least we're making our arguments based on scriptures. And it's been during the course of these arguments that I've learned the most about what the scriptures really teach. Face it, if you grow up believing only what the people in your church say, then what need do you have to delve deeper? If everyone agrees, what need is there to question whether or not the Bible actually teaches what everyone agrees about? I've gained a much deeper knowledge of the scriptures due to my heated arguments with Trinitarians and non-preexisters.

But once you bring secular writings into the discussion, what's the use? Colter is a strong believer in the Urantia Book. I briefly discussed some things with him, but when it became clear that the UB teaches some things that contradict scripture, there wasn't much left to discuss. It would have just turned into an argument over whose book was telling the truth. At that point, I wished him well, and moved on.

I would do the same with a Mormon. They have their own Bible, or at least additions to it. I would be willing to look at what their book says – but the first time their book taught something that contradicted the scriptures, I would probably move on.

I have conversations with Bodhitharta once in a while. He is a Muslim, and believes the scriptures up until the point they contradict the Quran. At that point, (like in the case of whether or not Jesus truly died, or just “faked his death”), he chooses to believe the Quran OVER the Bible, leaving us no room to move foreward (at least on that point).

So I'm up for any discussion, as long as everyone involved is using only the Hebrew and Greek scriptures – and not secular writings.

Anyway, good point.

November 13, 2012 at 12:56 am#320001

Participant

Some good thoughts here. I myself will not let any other books influence me without already having a good foundation.
I was saved in August of 1973, and the preacher at that time, knowing I had a moving experience told me to never just accept every thing he said. Kind of shocking at first, but showed me the scripture in Act where some having heard the Word searched for the truth of the matter. He, the pastor was talking to a man that day who would take his words to heart with all that I had within me in a way I had never done before about anything.

I ran into some UPC”s about a year later and they asked me if I had been Baptized in the “Name Of Jesus only”? I said no that it was “in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost”. So they showed me in Act where the phrase was always “in the name of Jesus”, and then said that I was not saved.

That got my attention so instead of saying something rude, (knowing I had a conversion for sure) I said I would study this out.

I learned a lot about Baptism, but it took me until around 25 or so years before I could say I have the “full assurance of faith and understanding” on how to answer this.

I have had a foundation of truth, but in June of 2000 I just sat and listened to Alexander Scourby read the New Testament for about 8 hours a day until almost the middle of November.

Not studying or any teaching, opinions, just listening to the Word being spoken.

One would be amazed at what you can learn depending on the Holy Spirit to revile the Word.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Now in no way I would NOTconsider teachers, pastors etc that God set in the Church, but this verse tells me that if someone is teaching the Word, it's the Holy Spirit that will confirm if it is truth.

A man can not revile truth like the Spirit can.

point is I have been in the Word for 39 years and don't consider I know it all, but I have the full assurance of understanding and faith in the things I confess and confirm.

This is why I have a hard time with other beliefs that are not on a firm foundation.

If you are Mormon or JW, or Seventh Day, for example we have very little in common to share.

November 13, 2012 at 1:15 am#320005