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    Ed J
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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,01:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2010,17:40)

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    Instead, it teaches that Jesus was both 100% God and 100% human.


    Hi WJ,

    In math you can’t have 200%? (Matthew 1:18 / Matthew 1:20 / Luke 1:35) (Luke 10:30-37)

    Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary’s mother‘s lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary’s father‘s lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus’ Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

    Mother         Father
    Mary         HolySpirit
    50%           50%
    \              /
    \          /
    Jesus
    /        \
    /            \
    /                \
    Son of Man     Son of God
    (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    ED J

    Thats your problem ED is you are trying to figure out God by using math.

    Forget the math, Jesus is fully God according to the Spirit and fully man according to the flesh. Comprende? :)

    WJ

    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #229497
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34)
    Hello Mike…

    1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity.

    2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.

    3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.

    4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity.

    5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity.

    6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity.

    God Bless You
    Respectfully, Francis

    Hi Everyone,

    Where are “the bible verses” for any of these,
    which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity?

    5) Here is the verses for point number 5!   …Luke 10:30-37
        This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.
        (see Fourth Post on previous page)

    Are these other points all factious?
    If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229498

    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ

    #229499
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229500

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?

    WJ

    #229502
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
    THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)

    Also in the book of Revelation.
    Rev.13:18: Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
    for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

             666 the number of the beast

    Thanks for asking! (Matt.7:7 / 1Thess.5:21)
    Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229512

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
    THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)


    ED

    The Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?

    Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!

    WJ

    #229515
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT,
    or church history for that matter?

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
    THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)


    ED

    The Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?

    Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Since I met your requirements, are you
    now changing your parameters for PROOF?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229518

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,12:58)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT,
    or church history for that matter?

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
    THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)


    ED

    The Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?

    Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Since I met your requirements, are you
    now changing your parameters for PROOF?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I said…

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,10:12)

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?


    The book of Barnabus is not in the NKJV which you claim is the only “Inspired” Bible.

    So I have not changed any parameters have I? It seems that you are changing things now for adding “Barnabus” to the NKJV as being inspired.

    Tell us why Jesus and the twelve Apostles who are the foundation of the church did not use gemetria or teach it?

    WJ

    #229519
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    WJ,
    Your wasting your time with nonsense.

    #229520

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,14:12)
    WJ,
    Your wasting your time with nonsense.


    True. :)

    WJ

    #229521
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,06:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,12:58)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04)
    Ed

    Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.

    Wake up yourself, friend!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Where's your Proof?
    1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT,
    or church history for that matter?

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
    THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)


    ED

    The Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?

    Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Since I met your requirements, are you
    now changing your parameters for PROOF?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I said…

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,10:12)

    Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?


    The book of Barnabus is not in the NKJV which you claim is the only “Inspired” Bible.

    So I have not changed any parameters have I? It seems that you are changing things now for adding “Barnabus” to the NKJV as being inspired.

    Tell us why Jesus and the twelve Apostles who are the foundation of the church did not use gemetria or teach it?

    WJ


    Hi WJ,

    Are you saying Barnabas was not (according to WJ) part of the Church? (Acts 11:22)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229522
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,02:01)

    Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34)
    Hello Mike…

    1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity.

    2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.

    3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.

    4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity.

    5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity.

    6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity.

    God Bless You
    Respectfully, Francis

    Hi Everyone,

    Where are “the bible verses” for any of these,
    which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity?

    5) Here is the verses for point number 5!   …Luke 10:30-37
        This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.
        (see Fourth Post on previous page)

    Are these other points all factious?
    If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi SF,

    Care to comment on any of these?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229523
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    wrong thread Ed

    #229524
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:42)
    wrong thread Ed


    Hi SF,

    Look at the title of this thread, my friend!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229525
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    nope, its in reference to what Francis said within a debate, again its the wrong thread.

    #229526
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:48)
    nope, its in reference to what Francis said within a debate, again its the wrong thread.


    Hi SF,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    So you have absolutely NO Scriptures then to back up any of those points; right?

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229527
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,00:53)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:48)
    nope, its in reference to what Francis said within a debate, again its the wrong thread.


    Hi SF,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    So you have absolutely NO Scriptures then to back up any of those points; right?

    Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    what in the heck are you talking about Ed?

    do you enjoy being a nuisance?

    #229528
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:24)
    WJ,

    Quote
    For those who find the seeming contradiction of God being Father and Son, in Heaven and on earth simultaneously, an insurmountable one, consider some of the contradictions of your own position, which demonstrate the weakness of your logical arguments against this truth. Earlier I quoted where Jesus told Philip that those who have seen Him have seen the Father.

    Question:
    If the Son is not the Father, how then can Jesus say they have seen the Father by seeing the Son? What would be the point of seeing the Father then? Or is it that none born of God will ever see their own Father?

    Jesus says that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He also says,“He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father” (John 14:12 MKJV).

    Question: How can He go to His Father if, as He said, “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me”? Is He not already there?

    Paul Cohen

    “Jesus Christ, Almighty God” by Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachin….god.htm


    Hi SF,

    Did you not Post this? Was this meant as nonsense?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #229542
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Hi All,

    Ed is right in this case.  “Per cent” simply means “out of a hundred”.  The maximum percent possible is 100.  So you “Jesus is God” people could claim that Jesus is 50% man and 50% God, but not 100% both.

    A peekapoo cannot be 100% poodle and 100% Pekinese, right?

    peace and love,
    mike

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