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- December 21, 2010 at 3:57 pm#229496Ed JParticipant
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,01:11) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2010,17:40) Quote Instead, it teaches that Jesus was both 100% God and 100% human.
Hi WJ,In math you can’t have 200%? (Matthew 1:18 / Matthew 1:20 / Luke 1:35) (Luke 10:30-37)
Jesus lineage explained
“Son of Man”: 25%; Mary’s mother‘s lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary’s father‘s lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus’ Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…
Mother Father
Mary HolySpirit
50% 50%
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Son of Man Son of God
(Mark 6:3) (Luke 1:35)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
ED JThats your problem ED is you are trying to figure out God by using math.
Forget the math, Jesus is fully God according to the Spirit and fully man according to the flesh. Comprende?
WJ
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)December 21, 2010 at 4:01 pm#229497Ed JParticipantQuote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hello Mike… 1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity.
2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.
3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.
4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity.
5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity.
6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity.
God Bless You
Respectfully, FrancisHi Everyone,
Where are “the bible verses” for any of these,
which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity?5) Here is the verses for point number 5! …Luke 10:30-37
This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.
(see Fourth Post on previous page)Are these other points all factious?
If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 4:04 pm#229498Worshipping JesusParticipantEd
Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
December 21, 2010 at 4:10 pm#229499Ed JParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 4:12 pm#229500Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDWhere is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?
WJ
December 21, 2010 at 4:39 pm#229502Ed JParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDWhere is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?
WJ
Hi WJ,Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)Also in the book of Revelation.
Rev.13:18: Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.666 the number of the beast
Thanks for asking! (Matt.7:7 / 1Thess.5:21)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 6:41 pm#229512Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDWhere is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?
WJ
Hi WJ,Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)
EDThe Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?
Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!
WJ
December 21, 2010 at 6:58 pm#229515Ed JParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDWhere is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT,
or church history for that matter?WJ
Hi WJ,Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)
EDThe Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?
Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!
WJ
Hi WJ,Since I met your requirements, are you
now changing your parameters for PROOF?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 8:09 pm#229518Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,12:58) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDWhere is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT,
or church history for that matter?WJ
Hi WJ,Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)
EDThe Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?
Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!
WJ
Hi WJ,Since I met your requirements, are you
now changing your parameters for PROOF?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I said…Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,10:12)
Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?
The book of Barnabus is not in the NKJV which you claim is the only “Inspired” Bible.So I have not changed any parameters have I? It seems that you are changing things now for adding “Barnabus” to the NKJV as being inspired.
Tell us why Jesus and the twelve Apostles who are the foundation of the church did not use gemetria or teach it?
WJ
December 21, 2010 at 8:12 pm#229519SimplyForgivenParticipantWJ,
Your wasting your time with nonsense.December 21, 2010 at 8:15 pm#229520Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,14:12) WJ,
Your wasting your time with nonsense.
True.WJ
December 21, 2010 at 8:29 pm#229521Ed JParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,06:09) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,12:58) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:39) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:04) Ed Human logic and numbers will always come short of describing an infinite God.
Wake up yourself, friend!
WJ
Hi WJ,Where's your Proof?
1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDWhere is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT,
or church history for that matter?WJ
Hi WJ,Your memory fails you. We have been through this before!
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 8:11-13.(Click Here)
EDThe Epistle of Barnabus is not in the Bible is it?
Therefore it has been rejected as being a part of the inspired Canon or the Holy Scriptures!
WJ
Hi WJ,Since I met your requirements, are you
now changing your parameters for PROOF?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I said…Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,10:12)
Where is your proof of the use of Gemetria in the NT, or church history for that matter?
The book of Barnabus is not in the NKJV which you claim is the only “Inspired” Bible.So I have not changed any parameters have I? It seems that you are changing things now for adding “Barnabus” to the NKJV as being inspired.
Tell us why Jesus and the twelve Apostles who are the foundation of the church did not use gemetria or teach it?
WJ
Hi WJ,Are you saying Barnabas was not (according to WJ) part of the Church? (Acts 11:22)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 8:33 pm#229522Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,02:01) Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hello Mike… 1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity.
2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.
3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity.
4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity.
5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity.
6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself. This is because Jesus is God. Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity.
God Bless You
Respectfully, FrancisHi Everyone,
Where are “the bible verses” for any of these,
which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity?5) Here is the verses for point number 5! …Luke 10:30-37
This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.
(see Fourth Post on previous page)Are these other points all factious?
If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi SF,Care to comment on any of these?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 8:42 pm#229523SimplyForgivenParticipantwrong thread Ed
December 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm#229524Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:42) wrong thread Ed
Hi SF,Look at the title of this thread, my friend!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 8:48 pm#229525SimplyForgivenParticipantnope, its in reference to what Francis said within a debate, again its the wrong thread.
December 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm#229526Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:48) nope, its in reference to what Francis said within a debate, again its the wrong thread.
Hi SF,The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.So you have absolutely NO Scriptures then to back up any of those points; right?
Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 21, 2010 at 8:58 pm#229527SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,00:53) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:48) nope, its in reference to what Francis said within a debate, again its the wrong thread.
Hi SF,The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.So you have absolutely NO Scriptures then to back up any of those points; right?
Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
what in the heck are you talking about Ed?do you enjoy being a nuisance?
December 21, 2010 at 9:03 pm#229528Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:24) WJ, Quote For those who find the seeming contradiction of God being Father and Son, in Heaven and on earth simultaneously, an insurmountable one, consider some of the contradictions of your own position, which demonstrate the weakness of your logical arguments against this truth. Earlier I quoted where Jesus told Philip that those who have seen Him have seen the Father. Question:
If the Son is not the Father, how then can Jesus say they have seen the Father by seeing the Son? What would be the point of seeing the Father then? Or is it that none born of God will ever see their own Father?Jesus says that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He also says,“He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father” (John 14:12 MKJV).
Question: How can He go to His Father if, as He said, “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me”? Is He not already there?
Paul Cohen
“Jesus Christ, Almighty God” by Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachin….god.htm
Hi SF,Did you not Post this? Was this meant as nonsense?
December 22, 2010 at 12:44 am#229542mikeboll64BlockedHi All,
Ed is right in this case. “Per cent” simply means “out of a hundred”. The maximum percent possible is 100. So you “Jesus is God” people could claim that Jesus is 50% man and 50% God, but not 100% both.
A peekapoo cannot be 100% poodle and 100% Pekinese, right?
peace and love,
mike - AuthorPosts
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