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John 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?In John 10, Did Jesus state that the people that were about to stone Jesus were gods also? Yes or no?
Lets Consider the Verse that Jesus was quoting:
Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.I believe WJ sums it up Perfectly what Jesus meant by stating such a thing.
Quote You see Mike this comes from listening too much to your roots the JWs and not examining scriptures closer. Jesus is merely quoting the Psalmist and saying to the hypocrites that it was written in “Their Law” that ye are gods. But look again Mike it is “the Psalmist Asaph that calls them gods” because they were like gods to the people who had fallen into the worship and the belief of many being gods. But Asaph says “they will die like men” and that is because they were men and not gods at all. So you see Mike Jehovah was not promoting “Polytheism’ neither was he contradicting himself when he says that there are “No other Gods but one”! Jesus was pointing out their hypocrisy because in “their law” (Talmud) according to Ps 82 they believed in other gods yet accused him of blasphemy for saying he was the Son of God. Jesus was not promoting Polytheism but rebuking them for their Polytheism and their Hypocrisy! In Other Words, Jesus is saying “Hey, how come its easy for you to believe that you are “gods” (who will die like men, so false gods) yet you cant simply believe that I am “one with God” and “son of God” who was “Sanctfied and Sent” and do the “same works of my Father”, dont believe me, than believe my works”
Jesus was cliaiming his rights by scripture to be called God, because the Scriptures speak of him.
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 09 2011,20:52) Bump for Terrarica, who made the same claim.
SFjust because you can not read what Christ says ,and then changed into what you believe it should be ,this is a deceiver action,
Jesus meant very well that it was as human gods that it was spoken ,not your up and down action ,
this is you deceit way you make your own bumps.
Pierre
What Jesus was saying is that God Himself called mere human beings “gods”, so why are you flipping out because I said I'm God's Son?
“God” is simply a title D. It means “ruler”. And Jesus didn't even go as far as saying he WAS a “ruler”, only that he was the Son of THE RULER.
You say these people who God Himself referred to as “gods” are “false gods”. What does that mean, D? Were these people, to whom the word of God came, trying to get people to worship them? In what way were they “false gods”? Did they call themselves “gods”………or was it God who called them “gods”. And did God use the term “false gods”? If not, then why would you?
D, what does “God of gods” mean? Jehovah (and NOT Jesus), is given this title in scripture. What does it mean? If there were no others with the title of “god” at all, then “God OF gods” would be senseless, don't you think?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:25) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 09 2011,20:52) Bump for Terrarica, who made the same claim.
SFjust because you can not read what Christ says ,and then changed into what you believe it should be ,this is a deceiver action,
Jesus meant very well that it was as human gods that it was spoken ,not your up and down action ,
this is you deceit way you make your own bumps.
Pierre
lol, your deceiving yourself for not reading psalms 82 more cafefully.Its simpe, if gods can die like men, than they are NOT gods.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, “HUMAN GODS” really?
are there “rabbit gods” too?lol…
Face it, Jesus was talking about SCRIPTURES, and what the JEWS BELIEVED. He SAID IT HIMSELF.John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?What is Jesus saying? Which works will you stone more for?
since he did many good works.33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So it wasnt abuot his works! its about what HE SAID.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Psalms 82: says
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.These men are wicked and ARE NOT GODs at all.
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
ITs very simple logic. IF they can easily believe scriptures where they call themselves god, than how dare they say that Jesus blashpemes when he calls himself the Son of God?
which scriptures “that cannot be broken” speak of Jesus himself.do you NOT SEE THIS.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,21:55) What Jesus was saying is that God Himself called mere human beings “gods”, so why are you flipping out because I said I'm God's Son? “God” is simply a title D. It means “ruler”. And Jesus didn't even go as far as saying he WAS a “ruler”, only that he was the Son of THE RULER.
You say these people who God Himself referred to as “gods” are “false gods”. What does that mean, D? Were these people, to whom the word of God came, trying to get people to worship them? In what way were they “false gods”? Did they call themselves “gods”………or was it God who called them “gods”. And did God use the term “false gods”? If not, then why would you?
D, what does “God of gods” mean? Jehovah (and NOT Jesus), is given this title in scripture. What does it mean? If there were no others with the title of “god” at all, then “God OF gods” would be senseless, don't you think?
peace and love,
mikeQuote What Jesus was saying is that God Himself called mere human beings “gods”, so why are you flipping out because I said I'm God's Son?
NO, thats not true. God “didnt say that”. can you prove that otherwise. I believe its the writer of the psalms who claimed that.
And Jesus DIDNT SAY that GOD called humans gods.What Jesus was saying is that if you can believe easily believe scriptures that cliam that they are “gods” than how is it possible they CANNOT believe that he is the Son of God.
and he continued to say, if you dont bleieve me, than BELIEVE my WORKS.
so if Jesus was telling the JEw to believe his WORKS, is because he wasnt asking why they were “flipping out” but why they “dont believe him”
The scriptures speak of Jesus, this is clear, so how is it that They cannot believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
and the FATHER IS IN HIM! AND HE IN THE FATHER.
Because Jesus very last point was this
38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,07:53) meant to say george
SF I just made a post in Mike vs, Francis tread. Look it up. God is a title…..and yes, there are other Gods1Cr 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Peace Irene
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,23:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:25) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 09 2011,20:52) Bump for Terrarica, who made the same claim.
SFjust because you can not read what Christ says ,and then changed into what you believe it should be ,this is a deceiver action,
Jesus meant very well that it was as human gods that it was spoken ,not your up and down action ,
this is you deceit way you make your own bumps.
Pierre
lol, your deceiving yourself for not reading psalms 82 more cafefully.Its simpe, if gods can die like men, than they are NOT gods.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, “HUMAN GODS” really?
are there “rabbit gods” too?lol…
Face it, Jesus was talking about SCRIPTURES, and what the JEWS BELIEVED. He SAID IT HIMSELF.John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?What is Jesus saying? Which works will you stone more for?
since he did many good works.33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So it wasnt abuot his works! its about what HE SAID.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Psalms 82: says
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.These men are wicked and ARE NOT GODs at all.
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
ITs very simple logic. IF they can easily believe scriptures where they call themselves god, than how dare they say that Jesus blashpemes when he calls himself the Son of God?
which scriptures “that cannot be broken” speak of Jesus himself.do you NOT SEE THIS.
SFwhat Jesus was saying and try to get across is that scriptures call mere men gods because the Jews received the law,and Jesus just states that he is only the son of God ,
and they looking to kill him,being a son is it not lower than being a god?? were is the equal therm??
wen you are jealous of someone you see all is moves to be bad in your mind.
Pierre
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,00:22) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,21:55) What Jesus was saying is that God Himself called mere human beings “gods”, so why are you flipping out because I said I'm God's Son? “God” is simply a title D. It means “ruler”. And Jesus didn't even go as far as saying he WAS a “ruler”, only that he was the Son of THE RULER.
You say these people who God Himself referred to as “gods” are “false gods”. What does that mean, D? Were these people, to whom the word of God came, trying to get people to worship them? In what way were they “false gods”? Did they call themselves “gods”………or was it God who called them “gods”. And did God use the term “false gods”? If not, then why would you?
D, what does “God of gods” mean? Jehovah (and NOT Jesus), is given this title in scripture. What does it mean? If there were no others with the title of “god” at all, then “God OF gods” would be senseless, don't you think?
peace and love,
mikeQuote What Jesus was saying is that God Himself called mere human beings “gods”, so why are you flipping out because I said I'm God's Son?
NO, thats not true. God “didnt say that”. can you prove that otherwise. I believe its the writer of the psalms who claimed that.
And Jesus DIDNT SAY that GOD called humans gods.What Jesus was saying is that if you can believe easily believe scriptures that cliam that they are “gods” than how is it possible they CANNOT believe that he is the Son of God.
and he continued to say, if you dont bleieve me, than BELIEVE my WORKS.
so if Jesus was telling the JEw to believe his WORKS, is because he wasnt asking why they were “flipping out” but why they “dont believe him”
The scriptures speak of Jesus, this is clear, so how is it that They cannot believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
and the FATHER IS IN HIM! AND HE IN THE FATHER.
Because Jesus very last point was this
38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
DennisonExactly, they were wicked and fallen judges that once spoke the word of God and was called “gods” by the people. It is the Psamist speaking and the psalmist is clarifying that they are not gods at all because they would die like men because they were men.
Only Polytheist would believe that men are gods and YHWH for sure does not contradict himself when he says their is no other gods before him or after him.
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: “before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me“. Isa 43:10
I find it amazing how hard they argue for “Poytheism”, but then again they have to because that is the only way they can try and explain why the scriptures and the Forefathers proclaim Jesus is God.
The carnal mind cannot understand or accept the things of God.
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:14
Blessings WJ
Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,12:10) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,07:53) meant to say george
SF I just made a post in Mike vs, Francis tread. Look it up. God is a title…..and yes, there are other Gods1Cr 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Peace Irene
Lol George.Were they really gods?
This is my point, that God is not a title, but a identity.A ROLE fullfilled.
Like you cant have the title of “Father” if you do not have a Child.
You must FULLFILL the ROLE, IN ORDER TO BE TRUELY IDENTIFIED AS THAT TITLE.
so if one calls himself a father without a son, he is either CRAZY or A LIAR.ITs as simple as that.
Ceaser was called a God, does that truely make him a God?
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2011,19:11) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,23:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:25) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 09 2011,20:52) Bump for Terrarica, who made the same claim.
SFjust because you can not read what Christ says ,and then changed into what you believe it should be ,this is a deceiver action,
Jesus meant very well that it was as human gods that it was spoken ,not your up and down action ,
this is you deceit way you make your own bumps.
Pierre
lol, your deceiving yourself for not reading psalms 82 more cafefully.Its simpe, if gods can die like men, than they are NOT gods.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, “HUMAN GODS” really?
are there “rabbit gods” too?lol…
Face it, Jesus was talking about SCRIPTURES, and what the JEWS BELIEVED. He SAID IT HIMSELF.John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?What is Jesus saying? Which works will you stone more for?
since he did many good works.33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So it wasnt abuot his works! its about what HE SAID.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Psalms 82: says
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.These men are wicked and ARE NOT GODs at all.
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
ITs very simple logic. IF they can easily believe scriptures where they call themselves god, than how dare they say that Jesus blashpemes when he calls himself the Son of God?
which scriptures “that cannot be broken” speak of Jesus himself.do you NOT SEE THIS.
SFwhat Jesus was saying and try to get across is that scriptures call mere men gods because the Jews received the law,and Jesus just states that he is only the son of God ,
and they looking to kill him,being a son is it not lower than being a god?? were is the equal therm??
wen you are jealous of someone you see all is moves to be bad in your mind.
Pierre
lol Pierre, thats a carnal explanation and thats NOT what he said.HE siad why do you not BELIEVE? and if you donnt believe! than llook AT MY WORKS.
you see ALL OF YOU, ignore the VERY LAST point that Jesus was making which is why all of you fail to understand the interpretation of John 10.
The Jews THEMSELVES said he was “A man trying to be equal WITH GOD”
this is what the JEWS SAID.
Your denying this.
Your lying to yourself.
To All,
I just want to let you know, that i have been working on this for a VERY long time to come to this point where you guys have NO way out.
I have been making the SAME points since when i started in HN. Remember the “Antrins” thread? a question for you?
I been stating the very same thing in different ways, trying to finally reach to this point where you guys cant deny that Jesus is God.At first i was confused because you guys didnt deny the scriptures that Jesus was called God. but since Keith, I and KJ were more defensive than Offensive, we had NO IDEA in what you believed.
So my next step was to finally get you guys to talk about your theology.
And ya dug your own graves for it.You accept everything we say, but demote it to “its just a title”
which is ridiculous.Which is not scriptural.
Finally the conclusion is that the Alternative view makes no sense whats so ever.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 11 2011,15:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2011,19:11) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,23:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:25) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 09 2011,20:52) Bump for Terrarica, who made the same claim.
SFjust because you can not read what Christ says ,and then changed into what you believe it should be ,this is a deceiver action,
Jesus meant very well that it was as human gods that it was spoken ,not your up and down action ,
this is you deceit way you make your own bumps.
Pierre
lol, your deceiving yourself for not reading psalms 82 more cafefully.Its simpe, if gods can die like men, than they are NOT gods.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, “HUMAN GODS” really?
are there “rabbit gods” too?lol…
Face it, Jesus was talking about SCRIPTURES, and what the JEWS BELIEVED. He SAID IT HIMSELF.John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?What is Jesus saying? Which works will you stone more for?
since he did many good works.33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So it wasnt abuot his works! its about what HE SAID.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Psalms 82: says
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.These men are wicked and ARE NOT GODs at all.
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
ITs very simple logic. IF they can easily believe scriptures where they call themselves god, than how dare they say that Jesus blashpemes when he calls himself the Son of God?
which scriptures “that cannot be broken” speak of Jesus himself.do you NOT SEE THIS.
SFwhat Jesus was saying and try to get across is that scriptures call mere men gods because the Jews received the law,and Jesus just states that he is only the son of God ,
and they looking to kill him,being a son is it not lower than being a god?? were is the equal therm??
wen you are jealous of someone you see all is moves to be bad in your mind.
Pierre
lol Pierre, thats a carnal explanation and thats NOT what he said.HE siad why do you not BELIEVE? and if you donnt believe! than llook AT MY WORKS.
you see ALL OF YOU, ignore the VERY LAST point that Jesus was making which is why all of you fail to understand the interpretation of John 10.
The Jews THEMSELVES said he was “A man trying to be equal WITH GOD”
this is what the JEWS SAID.
Your denying this.
Your lying to yourself.
SFyou have given your views a live of is own,
the time you spent to study as no bearing in scriptures,
Jesus was talking to carnal people,
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2011,02:20) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 11 2011,15:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2011,19:11) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,23:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:25) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 09 2011,20:52) Bump for Terrarica, who made the same claim.
SFjust because you can not read what Christ says ,and then changed into what you believe it should be ,this is a deceiver action,
Jesus meant very well that it was as human gods that it was spoken ,not your up and down action ,
this is you deceit way you make your own bumps.
Pierre
lol, your deceiving yourself for not reading psalms 82 more cafefully.Its simpe, if gods can die like men, than they are NOT gods.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, “HUMAN GODS” really?
are there “rabbit gods” too?lol…
Face it, Jesus was talking about SCRIPTURES, and what the JEWS BELIEVED. He SAID IT HIMSELF.John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?What is Jesus saying? Which works will you stone more for?
since he did many good works.33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So it wasnt abuot his works! its about what HE SAID.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Psalms 82: says
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.These men are wicked and ARE NOT GODs at all.
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
ITs very simple logic. IF they can easily believe scriptures where they call themselves god, than how dare they say that Jesus blashpemes when he calls himself the Son of God?
which scriptures “that cannot be broken” speak of Jesus himself.do you NOT SEE THIS.
SFwhat Jesus was saying and try to get across is that scriptures call mere men gods because the Jews received the law,and Jesus just states that he is only the son of God ,
and they looking to kill him,being a son is it not lower than being a god?? were is the equal therm??
wen you are jealous of someone you see all is moves to be bad in your mind.
Pierre
lol Pierre, thats a carnal explanation and thats NOT what he said.HE siad why do you not BELIEVE? and if you donnt believe! than llook AT MY WORKS.
you see ALL OF YOU, ignore the VERY LAST point that Jesus was making which is why all of you fail to understand the interpretation of John 10.
The Jews THEMSELVES said he was “A man trying to be equal WITH GOD”
this is what the JEWS SAID.
Your denying this.
Your lying to yourself.
SFyou have given your views a live of is own,
the time you spent to study as no bearing in scriptures,
Jesus was talking to carnal people,
Pierre
Actually Im just talking about SCriptures.
IT is you who gives a alternative explanation,
and IGNORE the LAST point that Jesus was saying.Your not refuteing it so you MUST agree.
you havent said anything nor provided any proof to refute my points.So you have nothing left to say.
And EXACTLY Jesus was talking to CARNAL people, so how are they GODS?
do you NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?
your own words have betrayed you.
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 11 2011,07:58) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,12:10) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,07:53) meant to say george
SF I just made a post in Mike vs, Francis tread. Look it up. God is a title…..and yes, there are other Gods1Cr 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Peace Irene
Lol George.Were they really gods?
This is my point, that God is not a title, but a identity.A ROLE fullfilled.
Like you cant have the title of “Father” if you do not have a Child.
You must FULLFILL the ROLE, IN ORDER TO BE TRUELY IDENTIFIED AS THAT TITLE.
so if one calls himself a father without a son, he is either CRAZY or A LIAR.ITs as simple as that.
Ceaser was called a God, does that truely make him a God?
SF The point that I was making that there are false Gods. And pay attention to the signature this is Irene and not Georg….
But to us there is only ONE TRUE GOD YAHWEH is His name……
Peace IreneQuote (Baker @ Jan. 11 2011,03:17) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 11 2011,07:58) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,12:10) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,07:53) meant to say george
SF I just made a post in Mike vs, Francis tread. Look it up. God is a title…..and yes, there are other Gods1Cr 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Peace Irene
Lol George.Were they really gods?
This is my point, that God is not a title, but a identity.A ROLE fullfilled.
Like you cant have the title of “Father” if you do not have a Child.
You must FULLFILL the ROLE, IN ORDER TO BE TRUELY IDENTIFIED AS THAT TITLE.
so if one calls himself a father without a son, he is either CRAZY or A LIAR.ITs as simple as that.
Ceaser was called a God, does that truely make him a God?
SF The point that I was making that there are false Gods. And pay attention to the signature this is Irene and not Georg….
But to us there is only ONE TRUE GOD YAHWEH is His name……
Peace Irene
oh ok, Sorry Irene at first i was speaking to george so i assumed and got confused.Oh ok so if they are false gods, than we agree. =)
Here is the problem that using “god” as just a title is ridculous, because one must fullfill the role in order to truely be.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 11 2011,07:58) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,12:10) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,07:53) meant to say george
SF I just made a post in Mike vs, Francis tread. Look it up. God is a title…..and yes, there are other Gods1Cr 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Peace Irene
Lol George.Were they really gods?
This is my point, that God is not a title, but a identity.A ROLE fullfilled.
Like you cant have the title of “Father” if you do not have a Child.
You must FULLFILL the ROLE, IN ORDER TO BE TRUELY IDENTIFIED AS THAT TITLE.
so if one calls himself a father without a son, he is either CRAZY or A LIAR.ITs as simple as that.
Ceaser was called a God, does that truely make him a God?
Is the pope a father? yet he is even called “holy father”.
Are the priests fathers?
Is George Washington really the father of our nation?I didn't say they were gods, they were mighty men, that is what the “word” god means.
Georg
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