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Those who are not leaning upon “their own” understanding are trusting in the Lord (Prov 3:5); These can acknowledge God’s ways, because He is directing their paths, so that they would not be wise in “their own” eyes because they are learning that the fear of the LORD is in the wisdom of HOW to depart from evil (3:6-7).
These believers “love correction”, and understand the need to be under the LORD’S chastening (doctrinal instruction); So that they could have sound wisdom and discretion (Prov 3:21); Discretion preserves us, and understanding keeps us (2:11).
All of this means that corrections of discipline are the way to LIFE (Prov 6:23); So be in the discretion that gives the details to believers who are ignorant of godly knowledge (Prov 1:4); Believers who are wise CAN hear what needs to be heard, so that they can increase in learning, and have understanding PROVIDING they can interpret the words of God (1:5-6).
For believers who despise the wisdom of this instruction are fools who forsake their parents (Prov 1:7-8); Are God’s words being made known to you? (1:23); If so, then you “ask” for wise counsel because you love correction (1:25).
If wisdom has entered into your heart, this knowledge is pleasant to you (Prov 2:10); This is why it is said that believers who find wisdom, and get understanding, are happily blessed (3:13); Therefore the principal thing is to get wisdom and do whatever it takes to gain understanding (4:7).
The holy is understanding (Prov 9:10); This is why God tells us to be holy, as He is holy (1Pet 1:16); Can you hear this instruction without refusing/neglecting it? If so, then you are wise (Prov 8:33); Only a strange woman in the way of death is bitter towards those with THIS WAY OF LIFE (Prov 5:3-7).
Stay away from this woman, and don’t come near her house (Prov 5:8); For if you honor her, she will be cruel towards you for years (5:9); I have experienced this. It is much better to be with strangers, than to be consumed by these who despise correction, and hate this instruction (5:10-12).
These women cannot obey the instruction of teachers, because they are in the evil of “their own will be done” in the church! (Prov 5:13-14); And because they still have “their own will” present within them, they cannot perform anything good (Rom 7:18); These are wretched believers in need of deliverance (7:24).
The problem with these wretched believers is that they “think” they have everything they need, but they are blind, because they can’t see that they are miserable, wretched, and naked (Rev 3:17); And Because these believers are lukewarm, Jesus is going to spew them out of His mouth (3:16).
The fear of the LORD is to hate the evil in all of it’s PRIDE that says:
1. YOU already have wise counsel
2. YOU already have sound wisdom
3. YOU already have understanding
4. YOU already have strength (Prov 8:13-14)This wisdom is not from men with enticing words, but rather demonstrates the power of the Spirit, so that your faith would stand in the power of God, NOT in the wisdom of (so-called) men (of faith) (1Cor 2:4-5); The wisdom that the Holy Spirit teaches, compares scripture with scripture (2:13).
For the carnal believer cannot receive these words of the Spirit, for they are foolish to him, because they are spiritually discerned (1Cor 2:14); Those who are spiritual, judge all things, for they have learned this instruction so that they could have the mind of Christ to do these things (2:15-16).
My desire is that you would be filled with the knowledge of His will, in all of it’s wisdom and understanding, so that you would walk worthy of the Lord, and be strengthened so that you could be patient in longsuffering, according to God’s glorious power with an attitude of gratitude because He has made you ready to be a partaker of the saints in light who have been delivered from darkness, and translated into the kingdom of His dear Son. (Col 1:9-13)
Hi Z,
Scripture is of the wisdom of God.
Luke 11:49
Because of this, God in his wisdom said, 'I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute.'Quote (Ztheberean @ July 22 2008,07:28) Those who are not leaning upon “their own” understanding are trusting in the Lord (Prov 3:5); These can acknowledge God’s ways, because He is directing their paths, so that they would not be wise in “their own” eyes because they are learning that the fear of the LORD is in the wisdom of HOW to depart from evil (3:6-7). These believers “love correction”, and understand the need to be under the LORD’S chastening (doctrinal instruction); So that they could have sound wisdom and discretion (Prov 3:21); Discretion preserves us, and understanding keeps us (2:11).
All of this means that corrections of discipline are the way to LIFE (Prov 6:23); So be in the discretion that gives the details to believers who are ignorant of godly knowledge (Prov 1:4); Believers who are wise CAN hear what needs to be heard, so that they can increase in learning, and have understanding PROVIDING they can interpret the words of God (1:5-6).
For believers who despise the wisdom of this instruction are fools who forsake their parents (Prov 1:7-8); Are God’s words being made known to you? (1:23); If so, then you “ask” for wise counsel because you love correction (1:25).
If wisdom has entered into your heart, this knowledge is pleasant to you (Prov 2:10); This is why it is said that believers who find wisdom, and get understanding, are happily blessed (3:13); Therefore the principal thing is to get wisdom and do whatever it takes to gain understanding (4:7).
The holy is understanding (Prov 9:10); This is why God tells us to be holy, as He is holy (1Pet 1:16); Can you hear this instruction without refusing/neglecting it? If so, then you are wise (Prov 8:33); Only a strange woman in the way of death is bitter towards those with THIS WAY OF LIFE (Prov 5:3-7).
Stay away from this woman, and don’t come near her house (Prov 5:8); For if you honor her, she will be cruel towards you for years (5:9); I have experienced this. It is much better to be with strangers, than to be consumed by these who despise correction, and hate this instruction (5:10-12).
These women cannot obey the instruction of teachers, because they are in the evil of “their own will be done” in the church! (Prov 5:13-14); And because they still have “their own will” present within them, they cannot perform anything good (Rom 7:18); These are wretched believers in need of deliverance (7:24).
The problem with these wretched believers is that they “think” they have everything they need, but they are blind, because they can’t see that they are miserable, wretched, and naked (Rev 3:17); And Because these believers are lukewarm, Jesus is going to spew them out of His mouth (3:16).
The fear of the LORD is to hate the evil in all of it’s PRIDE that says:
1. YOU already have wise counsel
2. YOU already have sound wisdom
3. YOU already have understanding
4. YOU already have strength (Prov 8:13-14)This wisdom is not from men with enticing words, but rather demonstrates the power of the Spirit, so that your faith would stand in the power of God, NOT in the wisdom of (so-called) men (of faith) (1Cor 2:4-5); The wisdom that the Holy Spirit teaches, compares scripture with scripture (2:13).
For the carnal believer cannot receive these words of the Spirit, for they are foolish to him, because they are spiritually discerned (1Cor 2:14); Those who are spiritual, judge all things, for they have learned this instruction so that they could have the mind of Christ to do these things (2:15-16).
My desire is that you would be filled with the knowledge of His will, in all of it’s wisdom and understanding, so that you would walk worthy of the Lord, and be strengthened so that you could be patient in longsuffering, according to God’s glorious power with an attitude of gratitude because He has made you ready to be a partaker of the saints in light who have been delivered from darkness, and translated into the kingdom of His dear Son. (Col 1:9-13)
Wonderful, Wonderful, Wonderful!!!Thank you so much brother. I have just finished listening to a set of 16 CD's on this subject.
God Bless
Hi,
Human wisdom – logic, speculation, opinion and inference – are far more popular, and because of them new theories sprout daily. We must live in submission to the Spirit of God who wrote scripture through men. Such discipline is anathema to carnal men.GB,
You said in another thread
“Nick………if you understood that all intellect come from God you would have no problem understanding what i said. The Tree of Good and Evil was created by GOD, and (WISDOM) is the understanding given us from both good and evil. Doesn't it say when Eve (SAW) the the fruit (good and evil) good in order to make one (WISE) She ate (took to herself) and Guess what Her eye of understanding (WAS) opened , ask you self why and you have the answer to you ignorant questing. “Was it not Satan who said the fruit of the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE of good and evil would make her wise?
Gen3
“4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. “
She believed Satan, as serpent, and we should not follow her and obey and serve him and his purposes.
Nick……you never cease to amaze me at the level of your ignorance, Vers 7 , go back and reread it only this time stop and think use your God given Brain for a change. (they (KNEW) they were (NAKED), After they ate, that means they did not know it before, now why or how did they become aware of it, was it not because they ATE (took to themselves) the knowledge of good and evil, can't you see the balance of this gave them the understanding of there condition. maybe that will help you a little.
Ask yourself why did GOD say LOOK THE MAN HAS (BECOME) AS WE ARE TO (know good and evil) because that is a Godly trait,Think about it before you open up your mouth and stick your foot in it.
The serpent was in her life either in her put there by God or by ADAM and He tricked her into eating it and He full well knew the consequences of doing it, she didn't, but he ate it also, ask yourself why,? because it was that or just remain stupid and blindly follow without any sense of good or evil. God intended this to happen all alone He wanted it to happen so man could become more like Him, Knowing (experiencing) good and evil. None of this was just an accident it all was a deliberate plan of God from start to finish. If God want man to not take of the fruit of the tree of good and evil He would have never put it there in the first place, He could have easily done that. God knew all along what man was going to do. If he didn't they He could not be (ALL) knowing. Knowing the end from the beginning right.
Before you star criticizing or labeling people you need really think about what they are saying, and quit adding through to what has be said. It reveals your true character Nick.
love and peace to you………………………….gene
GB,
So now having the knowledge of good and evil, they knew they were naked and felt scrupulous about it.
Is this the wisdom you desire?Nick……………what an ignorant statement , God left them naked so he could tell when the eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , He knew the first thing they would do when they became aware was to seek to cover themselves us. It gave them away. It wa sjust the start of their understanding and it was not wrong because God himself Made the Clothing to ware. and it must be the wisdom you desire also unless you go around naked I don't know if you wear clothe or not you may be a nudest for all i know. And God seem to think it was important He said look the man has become as we are knowing good and evil. But if you had rather not know good and evil then go and get a lobotomy , i am sure that will fix you up. Your thinking is really screwed up Nick
peace and love to you………………….gene
Hi Gene,
I love to read, and agree with, your opinion on many of the scriptures.
But I do Nick's as well. You are both good men trying to get your point across.
You seem to get really angry with Nick for seeing
things differently than you do. You souldn't. We will all learn what is correct in time.I have to admit though. I did chuckle when you tell someone to get a lobotomy and their
thinking is really screwed up, and conclude with “peace and love to you.”
Tim
Quote I have to admit though. I did chuckle when you tell someone to get a lobotomy and their
thinking is really screwed up, and conclude with “peace and love to you.”I have thought the exact same thing a couple of times.
GB,
You said this strange thing in another thread
Is this really your idea of what WISDOM means?' Wisdom is the Balance between GOOD and EVIL INTELLECTS or SPIRITS.”
Hi david,
You define wisdom this way
“No Gene, wisdom is sound judgment, based on knowledge and understanding; the ability to use knowledge and understanding successfully to solve problems, avoid or avert dangers, attain certain goals, or counsel others in doing so.
It is the opposite of foolishness, stupidity, and madness, with which it is often contrasted.—De 32:6; Pr 11:29; Ec 6:8.”That may be a human viewpoint but the wisdom of God is greater.
The 'foolishness of God' is greater than man's wisdom1 Corinthians 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.Lk11
49Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:Quote That may be a human viewpoint but the wisdom of God is greater.
The 'foolishness of God' is greater than man's wisdomNothing I said disagreed with this.
hi david,
We can think we grasp things but this too is wisdom
Zechariah 2:13
Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation.Nick……….So why are you spending all your time yakking about what (you think) the Bible says then if that you mentality. Lets just all be stupid and not us our GOD GIVEN BRAINS, Because it's all foolishness anyway. Nick some times i can't believe your that lame brained. God plainly said also “come lets (REASON) together” maybe you meant to say “for the children of the world are wiser in there generation than the children of the Kingdom. Why because the wisdom of the world is built around deceptions, Many times a Child of the Kingdom can and is out smarted by people in the world , a child of GOD will tell the Truth which leaves Him vulnerable to a Con artist and users who will play on His or Her loving nature, while a person in the world would see through the con artist. Look at all the sincere people that are supporting con artist Preachers and false churches. But to think every one GOD is giving more understanding of the deep things of God is of the world is pure foolishness. Either you are (GROWING) in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE or you Not. it is that simple, little brother. IMO
love and peace to you and yours…………………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 18 2009,17:49) gB,
What is evil about being naked?
I get naked every time I have a shower.
Nick……..are you a nudest?, do you walk around naked in public and why not seeing you think its aright to. Why do you think GOD made them clothes for?love and peace to you……………………….gene
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