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Richard of Decatur…… DAN 7:25, shows that he shall speak words against the most high and wear out the Saint’s of the most high, andthink to change times and laws: and the Saint’s shall be given into his hands,until a time and times and the deviding of time, 3 1/2 yrs.
It dosen’t mention any others there.Richard toke a look at the lesson of JOB, THIS WAS a perfect and upright man who eshewed evil and done only good, sowhy did GOD allow SATAN to do what he did to him, and why did JOB have to repent,in order to be forgiven and reinstated. This to me is a perfect picture o what takes place during the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saints, the world has a redge about it so to speak,by GOD REMOVING THE EVIL, BUT HE DOES NOT DESTORY EVIL,AND USES IT AGAIN AT THE END OF TIME “WHY”? , To me it is to prove a point,and that is unless GOD THE FATHER ABIDES “IN” US AND KEEPS US, WE CAN NOT MAINTAIN TRUE RIGHTIOUSNESS. SO THENGOD MUST BE “IN” ALL AND “THEOUGH” ALL FOREVER in order for rightiousness to prevail and continue. IMO AND IT IS JUST MY OPINION RICHARD
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene:
You make a strong case for your perspective.
I absolutely agree that no one now or in the future can make it on their own strengths in every respect without incredible power that God’s Spirit can give them. Those that make it into God’s Kingdom will have done so only because of God’s help. While I believe that the Saints will be tried by Satan to the point of breaking, those who overcome will be kept and rewarded (Rev. 2:11).Gene:
Just wanted to make another point concerning the Saints and Job comparison. First, while God allowed Satan to try Job with very serious problems, God did not allow Satan to take his life. Job endured all of Satan’s trials and kept his faith in God. What Job repented of was ‘self-righteousness’ not yielding to Satan nor forsaking God. Job simply did not fully realize how great was God’s actions in his life and the power of God’s Spirit that kept him faithful. Job actually thought he was pretty strong and his obedience to God was mostly of his own doing. When he saw what God has done since before the world was created and what God did in forming the earth and all of the universe, he finally realized how awesomely great God was while infinitesimally small he was, he repented of his self-righteousness. Note: the sin of self-righteousness is a sin that Satan does not understand so he really did not realize that Job had this sin to begin with.In the references to the end times mentioned in Revelation and Daniel, just because it says the Saints were worn out and given into Satan’s hand, I do not believe that means they were compromised into forsaking God and following Satan. There have been many martyrs in the past and will be in the future.
‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9“I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.”’ (Rev. 2: 8-11) Just like those who are beheaded because they will not take the mark of the Beast nor bow down and worship him. They will join the rest of the Saints in the first resurrection.Thanks Gene for engaging us in an interesting discussion of events yet to be played out and yet to be fully understood.
Richard of DecaturRichard of Decatur…… RIGHT the Saint’s do not give in they along with Jesus returnto JERUSALEM and wait forthe armies of the world under the released Satan, to advance to JERUSALEM and at that point God the Father sends fire down on them from heaven, and destories those advancing armies that surround Jerusalem and after that JESUS TURNS THE KINGDOM BACK TO GOD THE FATHER, WHO STARTS THE JUDGEMENT OF THE DEAD FROM ADAMTO THAT PRESENT DAY. ” THE BOOKS WERE OPENED AND THEY WILL BEJUDGED OUT O WHAT IS WRITTENIN THEM.”, THAT is the JUDJEMENT OF THE DEAD, but the SAINT’S AND JESUS ALREADY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE the Saint’s when they were resurected a thousand years before the end.
Richard of Decatur, you seem tohave a lot of scriptural knowledge brother. This is a good site for in depth study, get a little chaneling at times, but as the saying goes “IRON SHARPENS IRON” .
peace and loveto you and yours………gene
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