Why is it impossible for God to be or do evil

[sonofGod]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,04:31)

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 16 2014,19:26) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,12:24) hi some people believe that GOD CREATED EVIL ;WELL BUT WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN ANY WAY wicked, trouble, harm, wrong, sick, bad, worthless, wickedness, ill, crimes, sore, loathsome, envious, wrongly, evildoer, malignant, cruelly, miserable, malice, wretched, man, great, destroyed, surely, disaster, broken, break, destruction, false, iniquity, guilty, distress, mourning, friend, ruin, idol, sorrow, afflicted, vain, unjust, worse, calamity, affliction, breaks, smash, sad, wickedly, base, destroying, displeased, afflict,ECT Gal 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; Gal 5:20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions Gal 5:21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; Ge 3:10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.” Ge 3:11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from? ” Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. Eze 28:14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. Eze 28:15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.NIV Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.KJV ALL OF THIS IS AFTER MAN WAS CREATED AS A FINAL CREATION FOR GOD AND SO HE RESTED ; Ge 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. God created all that is good, which included free will. However, free will with only one choice does not permit free will to be exercised. He created the potential for evil. He allowed the possibility of it so that a choice between good and evil could be made sonofgod could you please tell us the meaning of “EVIL” THE WORD I MEAN

There are several different words for evil in scripture.

but one scripture states

And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of believing is sin.

When are are believing God we are not sinning and sin is wrong,

John 10:10a The thief comes not but for to steal and kill and destroy…..

Anything that accomplishes the thief's/Satan's purposes is evil

[sonofGod]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2014,07:14)

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 16 2014,09:26) God created all that is good, which included free will. However, free will with only one choice does not permit free will to be exercised. He created the potential for evil. He allowed the possibility of it so that a choice between good and evil could be made sonofGod, Now I can agree with “He created the potential for evil.” the very act of giving us “free will” created the potential for evil. But in God there is no evil nor definitely not the creation there of. BTW welcome to Heaven net Wm

thanks

[terraricca]

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 17 2014,02:24)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,04:31) Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 16 2014,19:26) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,12:24) hi some people believe that GOD CREATED EVIL ;WELL BUT WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN ANY WAY wicked, trouble, harm, wrong, sick, bad, worthless, wickedness, ill, crimes, sore, loathsome, envious, wrongly, evildoer, malignant, cruelly, miserable, malice, wretched, man, great, destroyed, surely, disaster, broken, break, destruction, false, iniquity, guilty, distress, mourning, friend, ruin, idol, sorrow, afflicted, vain, unjust, worse, calamity, affliction, breaks, smash, sad, wickedly, base, destroying, displeased, afflict,ECT Gal 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; Gal 5:20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions Gal 5:21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; Ge 3:10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.” Ge 3:11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from? ” Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. Eze 28:14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. Eze 28:15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.NIV Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.KJV ALL OF THIS IS AFTER MAN WAS CREATED AS A FINAL CREATION FOR GOD AND SO HE RESTED ; Ge 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. God created all that is good, which included free will. However, free will with only one choice does not permit free will to be exercised. He created the potential for evil. He allowed the possibility of it so that a choice between good and evil could be made sonofgod could you please tell us the meaning of “EVIL” THE WORD I MEAN There are several different words for evil in scripture. but one scripture states And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of believing is sin. When are are believing God we are not sinning and sin is wrong, John 10:10a  The thief comes not but for to steal and kill and destroy….. Anything that accomplishes the thief's/Satan's purposes is evil

sonofgod

show me all the words that mean the same thing than evil

i try to understand what is a sin that will kill us and sin that does not ,

is there a worse word to describe wickedness than evil

[terraricca]

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 17 2014,02:27)

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2014,07:14) Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 16 2014,09:26) God created all that is good, which included free will. However, free will with only one choice does not permit free will to be exercised. He created the potential for evil. He allowed the possibility of it so that a choice between good and evil could be made sonofGod, Now I can agree with “He created the potential for evil.” the very act of giving us “free will” created the potential for evil. But in God there is no evil nor definitely not the creation there of. BTW welcome to Heaven net Wm thanks

sonofgod

it is true that because of our created free will to do right or wrong we are position into a possibility to increase the righteousness just as the wickedness ,but the wickedness is still not God product ,

and so this is how God almighty as also created a way to separate men into two camps one righteous and the other wicked

and give to both time to fulfill their heart desires ,so that they can both be judge according to what they have done or not done that they should have done

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,18:17)

k Quote , I agree that man became mortal because he chose to both touch and eat of the deadly fruit. Adam and Eve could not eat the fruit without touching it ;so the reason I think it is mention is that touch would act as a enticing agent ,just as looking at it in the way of desiring it

T,

You may well be correct.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:03)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,18:17) k Quote , I agree that man became mortal because he chose to both touch and eat of the deadly fruit. Adam and Eve could not eat the fruit without touching it ;so the reason I think it is mention is that touch would act as a enticing agent ,just as looking at it in the way of desiring it T, You may well be correct.

[Wakeup]

Kerwin.

If you are the chief of a mafia gang.
And you ordered your men to kill some opponents.
They did the killing,but their blood is on you also.
You did not personally do the killings,this does not mean
you have nothing to do with the killings.
It was your will as the chief.
The chief is responsible for his gang.
But He is doing it for greed, and self service.

God is doing it for his purpose,and it is a good purpose.
He is tranforming the spiritual side of men into holy men.
Then the body also will be transformed into spirit,
to be with Him forever.

wakeup

[sonofGod]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,08:25)

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 17 2014,02:27) Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2014,07:14) Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 16 2014,09:26) God created all that is good, which included free will. However, free will with only one choice does not permit free will to be exercised. He created the potential for evil. He allowed the possibility of it so that a choice between good and evil could be made sonofGod, Now I can agree with “He created the potential for evil.” the very act of giving us “free will” created the potential for evil. But in God there is no evil nor definitely not the creation there of. BTW welcome to Heaven net Wm thanks sonofgod it is true that because of our created free will to do right or wrong we are position into a possibility to increase the righteousness just as the wickedness ,but the wickedness is  still not God product , and so this is how God almighty as also created a way to separate men into two camps one righteous and the other wicked and give to both time to fulfill their heart desires ,so that they can both be judge according to what they have done or not done that they should have done

Is it God's will to separate men into two camps?

Or is it God's will that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth? I Timothy 2:4

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,17:40)

The God we worship is A spirit. He is light physically and spiritually. All things are MADE by Him. He created evil also. This is not to say that HE IS EVIL,but He can do evil. Instead He created evil;and he did. He did it for the good. He has planned to have His own Son crucified. That seemed an evil thing to do; but we understand that it was for the good,of all mankind. God created darkness also. So we can tell the difference between light and darkness. This is good. God created flesh also;so we can tell the difference between spirit and flesh.(material). This is good also. The angels in heaven; some of them are rejects,but God did not cast them in the trash bin. He let them all pass the assembly line,because he could use them in His plan. And his plan is Good,and the finish product is something He will treasure for ever. wakeup.

Wakeup…………Well put.

peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

[GeneBalthrop]

sonofgod……….. There is no scripture that says, a WILL is Free. We have been given “LIBERTY” to exercise our “INFLUENCED” WILLS>  But WILL themselves are not FREE, they are the product of “INFLUENCED THINKING”, So they can't be FREE “themselves”. Even God's Will is not FREE, for God does all things after the “COUNCIL”of his WILL, What is “COUNCIL” it is the summation of things that influenced HIS MIND, in his decision making process, which results in the expression of His  WILL.  It is the same with us, we “WILL or DESIRE from what is influencing our minds also. God has not given us a “FREEWILL”, but  “LIBERTY” to Exercise our “INFLUENCED” WILLS> Which makes up the desires of our hearts. IMO

peace and love to you and yours, and welcome to the site………………………………gene

[sonofGod]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,08:13)

Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 17 2014,02:24) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,04:31) Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 16 2014,19:26) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,12:24) hi some people believe that GOD CREATED EVIL ;WELL BUT WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN ANY WAY wicked, trouble, harm, wrong, sick, bad, worthless, wickedness, ill, crimes, sore, loathsome, envious, wrongly, evildoer, malignant, cruelly, miserable, malice, wretched, man, great, destroyed, surely, disaster, broken, break, destruction, false, iniquity, guilty, distress, mourning, friend, ruin, idol, sorrow, afflicted, vain, unjust, worse, calamity, affliction, breaks, smash, sad, wickedly, base, destroying, displeased, afflict,ECT Gal 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; Gal 5:20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions Gal 5:21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; Ge 3:10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.” Ge 3:11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from? ” Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. Eze 28:14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. Eze 28:15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.NIV Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.KJV ALL OF THIS IS AFTER MAN WAS CREATED AS A FINAL CREATION FOR GOD AND SO HE RESTED ; Ge 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. God created all that is good, which included free will. However, free will with only one choice does not permit free will to be exercised. He created the potential for evil. He allowed the possibility of it so that a choice between good and evil could be made sonofgod could you please tell us the meaning of “EVIL” THE WORD I MEAN There are several different words for evil in scripture. but one scripture states And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of believing is sin. When are are believing God we are not sinning and sin is wrong, John 10:10a  The thief comes not but for to steal and kill and destroy….. Anything that accomplishes the thief's/Satan's purposes is evil sonofgod show me all the words that mean the same thing than evil i try to understand what is a sin that will kill us and sin that does not , is there a worse word to describe wickedness than evil

Do you have a concordance?

Look it up

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 15 2014,21:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 14 2014,23:10) Seeking truth. Now you are bashing the Holy bible, because it is not saying what you want to hear. Jehovah Jereh.The Lord will provide us with the right book for us to seek. Do you agree with this one: I kill and make alive. Is killing not evil? The law says: Thou shalt not kill. wakeup. Wakeup, Who's bashing the Holy Bible… you mis-quote it. A correct translation of Exodus 20:13 does not state “Thou shalt not kill.” but “You shall not murder. Big difference, killing is not necessarily evil, but murder is. Numbers 35:26-27 “You must never go outside the limits of your city of safety. If you do and if a member of the dead person’s family catches you and kills you, that family member will not be guilty of murder. Wm

Seekingtruth………You are right there are Killings that are not Murders. God said of them that kill, the “murderer” shall surely be put to death.

peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

[terraricca]

sonofgod

Quote

Do you have a concordance? Look it up

hmmm,hmmm

[seekingtruth]

Thanks Gene

[Wakeup]

What is the difference between;
killing and murdering?

wakeup.

[seekingtruth]

Motive

[journey42]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,11:43)

What is the difference between; killing and murdering? wakeup.

Both produce the same thing, death.

To murder is to kill
and to kill is to murder.
Both cause death.

[seekingtruth]

journey42,
That sounds good but scripture disagrees that to “kill is to murder”

Numbers 35:26-27 “You must never go outside the limits of your city of safety. If you do and if a member of the dead person’s family catches you and kills you, that family member will not be guilty of murder.

[Wakeup]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 19 2014,16:45)

journey42, That sounds good but scripture disagrees that to “kill is to murder” Numbers 35:26-27 “You must never go outside the limits of your city of safety. If you do and if a member of the dead person’s family catches you and kills you, that family member will not be guilty of murder.

seekingtruth.

I agree it is motive.
But God killed the huband and wife in an instand when they
blasphemed the Hoy spirit.
God opened up the earth and killed them that are against Moses.
What was Gos's motive?

wakeup.

[seekingtruth]

For the greater good, that is always God's motive, just as a cancer patient getting a lung removed, it sounds awful and it's not that they don't want it, but it is better for the whole to have it removed.

Wm

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