Why is it impossible for God to be or do evil

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2014,12:43)

Marty Quote The scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent. And so, right the scriptures do not say that. Love in Christ, Marty what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree

Hi Pierre:

I don't know what kind of animal who could speak the serpent was, but the scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent, but it is the spirit that was within the serpent that entered into Adam and Eve because they obeyed him rather than God, and so, that spirit was sin, to disobey God's commandments is sin, and the scriptures state that sin, the spirit of disobedience entered into the world through Adam, and men that obey that evil spirit are responsible for all of the evil that is in the world.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[journey42]

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what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree

Hi Pierre

I think it was a snake.  I've never heard of a lizard, or any other animal being referred to as a serpent.

Satan never shows himself. He always goes into something, or changes form.  He is the deceiver.

[GeneBalthrop]

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2014,12:43) Marty Quote The scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent. And so, right the scriptures do not say that. Love in Christ, Marty what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree Hi Pierre: I don't know what kind of animal who could speak the serpent was, but the scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent, but it is the spirit that was within the serpent that entered into Adam and Eve because they obeyed him rather than God, and so, that spirit was sin, to disobey God's commandments is sin, and the scriptures state that sin, the spirit of disobedience entered into the world through Adam, and men that obey that evil spirit are responsible for all of the evil that is in the world. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty……Well put i believe you are right on this , That subtle spirit Nature, is depicted as a Serpent, because it work in subtle ways. This Spirit nature is Personified in Genesis, as a serpent or worm, and it did enter into Mankind from the time of there disobedience.

This nature is depicted as a Worm also, and it must be put to death. Jacob was called a worm, “thy worm Jacob” , because he had a subtle nature in him, as does all of mankind, and even Jesus talked about the Worn that would not die, and as a result the fire would not be quenched.

We must with God's help MASTER this subtitle nature, and put it under our foot or control , so it will not dictate how we lives any longer. This is called bruising its head, while it bruises our heal (walk in life). I believe Genesis is full of symbolic language and can not be taken in a completely literal sense but in a Spiritual sense. IMO

peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

[Wakeup]

We are just like worms on the earth in God's eyes.
Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, ***and the inhabitants thereof are as
grasshoppers***;
that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

wakeup.

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Hi Gene:

Yes, all that the spirit of the serpent was entered into the world through Adam, subilty, a deceiver, a liar, a spirit of self exaltation, and a spirit that tempts others to do evil, whatever else evil man is capable to do entered into the world through Adam, but he is not responsible for each man has done, each us have at some point in our life after our infancy and youth have been tempted and succumbed to the temptation, and then again as we became what we were, a fornicator, a liar, a deceiver, and adulterer or whatever else we have become until God called us to a relationship with Him through the gospel, but I for one had a choice first to do all the evil that I did prior to my relationship with God, and I had a choice when he called me through the gospel whether or not to repent and accept His gift of forgiveness, and the Holy Ghost does not take away my freedom to obey or not.  As a Christian I want to obey Him out of my gratitude for what He has done for me and does for me on a continual bases, and just because what He and my Lord are to me.  When He calls me into a relationship with Him, He may draw me to Him, but no, HE does not force anyone(drag, as you say) to come, it is a personal choice, and the good works that we do are done my the Word of God in the example that our Lord has left us through his life of obedience to God, His Father, and our Father.

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Hbr 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Tools specific to Hbr 5:8 Hbr 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

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Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

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Jhn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Jhn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

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1Jo 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[journey42]

Gene wrote:

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This nature is depicted as a Worm also, and it must be put to death. Jacob was called a worm,  “thy worm Jacob” , because he had a subtle nature in him, as does all of mankind, and even Jesus talked about the Worn that would not die, and as a result the fire would not be quenched.

Gene

I don't think God was calling Jacob personally a worm, but calls Israel Jacob. (It's a Codename) Jacob was loved by God, and a righteous man, loyal to God.  

Isaiah 4:8   But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Isaiah 4:9   Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant: I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away.
Isaiah 4:10   Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
Isaiah 4:14   Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

I'm pretty sure he means fear not “death forever”
meaning when we are dead, worms eat our body.
like here below, worms eating their body's forever symbolising they will never live again.;

Isaiah 66:24   And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Israel shall not fear “the worm”. (eternal death)
This is when God will bring Israel back by choice during the millenium.

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Hi Journey:

The reason that God called him a worm is because of the way that he deceived his Father into blessing him instead of the older son, Esau.

The name Jacob means:

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Jacob = “heel holder” or “supplanter”

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sup·plant [suh-plant, -plahnt] Show IPA verb (used with object) 1. to take the place of (another), as through force, scheming, strategy, or the like. 2. to replace (one thing) by something

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Wakeup]

1.Let me explain as much as I can,about evil.
God created Adam with the spirit of man in him.
Man can make his own decisions.
Man are always tempted by what he sees,feels,smells,and
what he hears. Nice whispers are tempting to man's ears.

2. Then comes the tempter to tempt man/woman,
by showing him/her something nice to eat.
That they have never tried before.Something new.
Curious to see what will happen.
And hear the great words of the tempter.
He/She has to make a decision.

3. The spirit of man and his curiosity for something new
Got hold of Him. And he makes the wrong decision.

4. Believing the lie put forth,and therefore failed to obey his
creator.And became the servant of his own spirit.
The lust and greed,and want.

5. Man since then have followed his own spirit,and the
tempter is always there to tempt more and more.
Further and further away from His creator.
Unless man starts to obey his creator,then only can he
make the tempter to fail.
With God,we are stronger than the tempter.
With God we know that what is nice and tempting,
is not always acceptable to God,is not to be touched.
This is how the spirit of the flesh is always against the
spirit of God.The flesh wants;but the spirit of God says no.
The spirit of God says do; but the spirit of man says;not
now,maybe later or : but I need it. I'm not doing any
harm.
The tempter will always be there 24/7.He will not stop.
Having wisdom will stop him dead most of the time,for we
are not perfect.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2014,12:43) Marty Quote The scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent. And so, right the scriptures do not say that. Love in Christ, Marty what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree Hi Pierre: I don't know what kind of animal who could speak the serpent was, but the scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent, but it is the spirit that was within the serpent that entered into Adam and Eve because they obeyed him rather than God, and so, that spirit was sin, to disobey God's commandments is sin, and the scriptures state that sin, the spirit of disobedience entered into the world through Adam, and men that obey that evil spirit are responsible for all of the evil that is in the world. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty

i believe what was happen with the Balaam donkey was the same thing what ad happen with the snake in Eden

and when God talked to the snake he was not talking to an animal but to a real intelligent being that could understand what he was saying I never see God talking to some thing that cannot respond to him in a similar way ,

and the spirit that entered in Eve and then in Adam was actually of there own concept based on what the so called serpent had said ,in other word he convince them to believe him rather than God that simple ,

so what God said was to the being that uses the snake as front to deceive

it does not say but i would not be surprise if the serpent eat the fruit of that tree , because it was not the fruit that was wrong but ;THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE DISOBEDIENCE OF ADAM AND EVE

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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 07 2014,19:43)

Quote what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree Hi Pierre I think it was a snake.  I've never heard of a lizard, or any other animal being referred to as a serpent. Satan never shows himself. He always goes into something, or changes form.  He is the deceiver.

RIGHT ,

[Wakeup]

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Hi Journey: The reason that God called him a worm is because of the way that he deceived his Father into blessing him instead of the older son, Esau. The name Jacob means: Quote Jacob = “heel holder” or “supplanter” Quote sup·plant  [suh-plant, -plahnt]  Show IPA   verb (used with object)   1. to take the place of (another), as through force, scheming, strategy, or the like. 2. to replace (one thing) by something Love in Christ, Marty

Marty.

Jacob did not deceive his father,but God made it happen
what Esau had done.
And that is to sell his birthright to Jacob for food.
Esau sold his birthright,and God gave it to Jacob.
And that was how God made it happen,for Esau is stronger that Jacob.

wakeup.

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Quote (942767 @ Feb. 07 2014,19:18) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2014,12:43) Marty Quote The scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent. And so, right the scriptures do not say that. Love in Christ, Marty what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree Hi Pierre: I don't know what kind of animal who could speak the serpent was, but the scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent, but it is the spirit that was within the serpent that entered into Adam and Eve because they obeyed him rather than God, and so, that spirit was sin, to disobey God's commandments is sin, and the scriptures state that sin, the spirit of disobedience entered into the world through Adam, and men that obey that evil spirit are responsible for all of the evil that is in the world. Love in Christ, Marty Marty i believe what was happen with the Balaam donkey was the same thing what ad happen with the snake in Eden and when God talked to the snake he was not talking to an animal but to a real intelligent being that could understand what he was saying I never see God talking to some thing that cannot respond to him in a similar way , and the spirit that entered in Eve and then in Adam was actually of there own concept based on what the so called serpent had said ,in other word he convince them to believe him rather than God that simple , so what God said was to the being that uses the snake as front to deceive it does not say but i would not be surprise if the serpent eat the fruit of that tree , because it was not the fruit that was wrong but ;THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE  DISOBEDIENCE OF ADAM AND EVE

Pierre, you may believe whatever you may believe, but that is not what the scripture states. What you may believe without the supporting scriptures to back it up is simply your opinion.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Hi wakeup:

You say:

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God created Adam with the spirit of man in him.

But this is what the scripture states:

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Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

A “living soul” is a person who has a mind, a will, and emotions.  At this point, Adam who was given a commandment from God not to eat from “the tree of knowledge and evil” and the consequences for disobedience to that command, was at that time in innocence, just as a new born baby, he had not done any good or evil.  His responsibility was to teach his wife what God had said to him, and she was to be his helpmete, in guarding, or keeping the garden of Eden, and apparently, he did teach her, because she when was tempted by the serpent, she answered it with what God had said, except that she added, that they could not even touch it.

The spirit of a man is formed within him through the things that he obeys in his life.  Adam failed in his responsibility by not correcting his wife when she had eaten from the tree, instead he ate also, and so, the scripture states that “sin entered into the world through him”.  And so, instead of becoming a servant of God by keeping his commandments, he became the servant of the devil.

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Rom 6:16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

This is what Jesus said:

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John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Hi Wakeup:

You say:

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Jacob did not deceive his father,but God made it happen what Esau had done.

How can you blame God for what happened here, he is not a partaker of evil, he fore-saw that it would happen that way, but please read the scriptures and quit adding your opinion to what is being stated.

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Hebrews 12:15-17 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

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Gen 27:34-36And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father.And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing.And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?

Love in Christ,
Marty

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 08 2014,06:12) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 07 2014,19:18) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2014,12:43) Marty Quote The scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent. And so, right the scriptures do not say that. Love in Christ, Marty what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree Hi Pierre: I don't know what kind of animal who could speak the serpent was, but the scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent, but it is the spirit that was within the serpent that entered into Adam and Eve because they obeyed him rather than God, and so, that spirit was sin, to disobey God's commandments is sin, and the scriptures state that sin, the spirit of disobedience entered into the world through Adam, and men that obey that evil spirit are responsible for all of the evil that is in the world. Love in Christ, Marty Marty i believe what was happen with the Balaam donkey was the same thing what ad happen with the snake in Eden and when God talked to the snake he was not talking to an animal but to a real intelligent being that could understand what he was saying I never see God talking to some thing that cannot respond to him in a similar way , and the spirit that entered in Eve and then in Adam was actually of there own concept based on what the so called serpent had said ,in other word he convince them to believe him rather than God that simple , so what God said was to the being that uses the snake as front to deceive it does not say but i would not be surprise if the serpent eat the fruit of that tree , because it was not the fruit that was wrong but ;THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE  DISOBEDIENCE OF ADAM AND EVE Pierre, you may believe whatever you may believe, but that is not what the scripture states.  What you may believe without the supporting scriptures to back it up is simply your opinion. Love in Christ, Marty

then why scriptures in revelation calls the dragon also the snake

[Wakeup]

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Hi Wakeup: You say: Quote Jacob did not deceive his father,but God made it happen what Esau had done. How can you blame God for what happened here, he is not a partaker of evil, he fore-saw that it would happen that way, but please read the scriptures and quit adding your opinion to what is being stated. Quote Hebrews 12:15-17 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Quote Gen 27:34-36And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father.And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing.And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me? Love in Christ, Marty

Marty.

1.Esua sold his birthright to jacob.
There was an agreement made,and Esua has to keep that
agreement.
2.Without God's help Esau could have just dismissed that
agreement;and Jacob could not have done anything.
Esau was the hairy tough one.

3.The agreement was made without Isaac's knowledge.
Isaac did not know,but God knew. And God helped Jacob;
and made it happen.

4. Esau was a fornicator,because he sold his fathers birth
right,for a meal.

5.This also is a lesson for us; Dont sell your inheritance
for material things. You'll be a fornicator.

wakeup.

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Quote (942767 @ Feb. 08 2014,10:20) Hi Wakeup: You say: Quote Jacob did not deceive his father,but God made it happen what Esau had done. How can you blame God for what happened here, he is not a partaker of evil, he fore-saw that it would happen that way, but please read the scriptures and quit adding your opinion to what is being stated. Quote Hebrews 12:15-17 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Quote Gen 27:34-36And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father.And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing.And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me? Love in Christ, Marty Marty. 1.Esua sold his birthright to jacob.   There was an agreement made,and Esua has to keep that    agreement. 2.Without God's help Esau could have just dismissed that   agreement;and Jacob could not have done anything.   Esau was the hairy tough one. 3.The agreement was made without Isaac's knowledge.    Isaac did not know,but God knew. And God helped Jacob;    and made it happen. 4. Esau was a fornicator,because he sold his fathers birth    right,for a meal. 5.This also is a lesson for us; Dont sell your inheritance   for material things. You'll be a fornicator. wakeup.

No, Wakeup, God is not a partaker of evil deeds of men, and so, I disagree with you that God helped Jacob to deceive Esau.  The name Jacob means deceiver and that is what he was before God changed his name to Israel, which means prince with God.

Esau is symbolic of someone who has rejected his right to be born again through the gospel, and instead has chosen the things of this world over the promises of God.  And so, yes, it is a warning to us not to sell our inheritance for the things of this world, but it up to us to guard against it.  God is not going to help you to sell your inheritance that would be contrary to God's nature.  He is Holy.  No, never, never, will God help someone to obey evil.

But I have already given you my understanding and scripture to back it up, and so, teach whatever you want both you and I are responsible to God for what we teach.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Quote (942767 @ Feb. 08 2014,04:36) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 08 2014,06:12) Quote (942767 @ Feb. 07 2014,19:18) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2014,12:43) Marty Quote The scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent. And so, right the scriptures do not say that. Love in Christ, Marty what kind of animal you think the serpent was  I mean physically ,sins he was on the tree Hi Pierre: I don't know what kind of animal who could speak the serpent was, but the scripture states that God was speaking to the serpent, but it is the spirit that was within the serpent that entered into Adam and Eve because they obeyed him rather than God, and so, that spirit was sin, to disobey God's commandments is sin, and the scriptures state that sin, the spirit of disobedience entered into the world through Adam, and men that obey that evil spirit are responsible for all of the evil that is in the world. Love in Christ, Marty Marty i believe what was happen with the Balaam donkey was the same thing what ad happen with the snake in Eden and when God talked to the snake he was not talking to an animal but to a real intelligent being that could understand what he was saying I never see God talking to some thing that cannot respond to him in a similar way , and the spirit that entered in Eve and then in Adam was actually of there own concept based on what the so called serpent had said ,in other word he convince them to believe him rather than God that simple , so what God said was to the being that uses the snake as front to deceive it does not say but i would not be surprise if the serpent eat the fruit of that tree , because it was not the fruit that was wrong but ;THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE  DISOBEDIENCE OF ADAM AND EVE Pierre, you may believe whatever you may believe, but that is not what the scripture states.  What you may believe without the supporting scriptures to back it up is simply your opinion. Love in Christ, Marty then why scriptures in revelation calls the dragon also the snake

Hi Pierre:

Because that spirit that was in the snake, the lying and deceiving spirit entered into the world through Adam, and not that same spirit is in evil men.

That spirit is the “dragon” spirit.

For example:

To whom does the following scripture refer?

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2.Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Wakeup]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 08 2014,10:02)

Hi wakeup: You say: Quote  God created Adam with the spirit of man in him. But this is what the scripture states: Quote Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. A “living soul” is a person who has a mind, a will, and emotions.  At this point, Adam who was given a commandment from God not to eat from “the tree of knowledge and evil” and the consequences for disobedience to that command, was at that time in innocence, just as a new born baby, he had not done any good or evil.  His responsibility was to teach his wife what God had said to him, and she was to be his helpmete, in guarding, or keeping the garden of Eden, and apparently, he did teach her, because she when was tempted by the serpent, she answered it with what God had said, except that she added, that they could not even touch it. The spirit of a man is formed within him through the things that he obeys in his life.  Adam failed in his responsibility by not correcting his wife when she had eaten from the tree, instead he ate also, and so, the scripture states that “sin entered into the world through him”.  And so, instead of becoming a servant of God by keeping his commandments, he became the servant of the devil. Quote Rom 6:16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? This is what Jesus said: Quote John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty.

God breathed into Adam's nostrils the breath of life.
The breathing of air,like all creatures do.
But Adam has his own spirit of the flesh,that can be
roused by the eyes,ears,whispers,looks,smell, curiosity.

He/she was good untill the tempter(serpent,Satan)
tempted his wife,and she tempted Adam.
The fruit looks good to the eyes,and smelled good to the nose. Curiosity and adventure caused her/his fall.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 08 2014,10:20)

Hi Wakeup: You say: Quote Jacob did not deceive his father,but God made it happen what Esau had done. How can you blame God for what happened here, he is not a partaker of evil, he fore-saw that it would happen that way, but please read the scriptures and quit adding your opinion to what is being stated. Quote Hebrews 12:15-17 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Quote Gen 27:34-36And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father.And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing.And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me? Love in Christ, Marty

Marty.

No, I dont blame God.
God knew that Esau made a deal with his brother,
And he made sure that deall is honoured.
Without God's help;that deal would not have been honoured by Esau.Esau would have his meal, and his inheritance.
Because Isaac loved Esau,and he is much stronger physically than Jacob.

wakeup.

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