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  • #189032
    Ed J
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .

    #189033
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.

    #189035
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart

    #189038
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ April 28 2010,20:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor  , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    If you want to discuss the Proof of God's existence with me (since you are an Atheist) we can; as I have documented much Proof!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #189039
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ April 28 2010,20:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor  , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

                  You mean “So much for ignorance”!

    Nicole Tesla (an electronics engineer) surmised “The Ark”=63 of “YHVH”=63 was a 'giant capacitor',
    capable of providing an immense electrical discharge; once discharged it would be safe to the touch.

    The book of Samuel was written by a scribe of the King,
    NOT a Prophet of YHVH(geting information directly from the HolySpirit)!

    I told you all this before (on several occasions), Stuart; have you forgotten?
    This 'tactic' of yours reminds me of BD's favorite  tactic (used repeatedly on this forum)!
    Once you discuss a subject to death, he starts A NEW THREAD, pretending it never happened!
    Have you had an occasion to notice how BD repeatedly does this? Are you wanting to be like BD now?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #189045
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ April 28 2010,20:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor  , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart, you just had to say that I know!…havent you moved on from the story of Uzzah yet?

    #189064
    Laurel
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,10:19)
    Hi BD,
    Your nonsense about satan being called a god does not fit with the teaching of scripture quoted by Jesus that men are called gods.

    But then you are uselessly hoping to defeat the Spirit of God are you not?


    Nick,
    You tell so many tall tales that you can't keep straight all of what you said. Nick, you were the one who said HaSatan was the god of this world.

    And

    I also differ with B” in that the authority of this earth has not yet been given over to Messiah. I say this because there is not yet peace on this earth, and death and sin are plentiful.

    As for myself, i believe that the authority was given to HaSatan to rule this earth because man failed to do the will of YHWH and HaSatan was kicked out of the heavens to the earth on account of his wanting to be like The Most High.

    HaSatan rightly told the Messiah that he could give Him the whole earth, if only He would bow to him. (notice the caps.) The Messiah replied to HaSatan, “You shall not tempt YHWH your Elohim.”

    I believe that when the Messiah returns to judge as YHWH has given His Son that authority, that Yahushua will defeat HaSatan after the judgment, and He will destroy HaSatan and all the unclean things on the earth, and that HaSatan himself will be destroyed along with death.

    I believe that HaSatan knows he has “little time” left to win as many converts to his authority, as quickly as possible.

    Afterwards the reign of heaven will be in place on the earth and the Messiah Yahushua who is of the line of David, will reign over YHWH kingdom here on the earth as promised in the TENAK.

    Currently HaSatan holds the deed to the earth, and in the future Yahushua Messiah will hold it, and it is not far off.

    I believe that in Revelations we learn of a sealed document, that when the Messiah tears off the seals one at a time, all that is wicked and twisted, mingled and mangled will be made manifest, and all who are a part of this mixing of good with evil, will die in the plagues which come when these seals are ripped off. I believe that when this document is finally opened, then Yahushua will reign and this is the deed to His “birthright.”

    All one has to do is look around at the governments, the drug pushers, and the religious leaders and see that this is definately not the kingdom of heaven, and the Messiah is definately reigning righteous justice from His thrown here. He is not here in body or every person on the earth would know it.

    According to the Set-apart writings, every eye will see when the Messiah returns to claim His “birthright.”

    Notice how i have left room for more insight, as i say this is what i believe, and i did not say it is exactly going to be like this….

    #189070
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,19:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ALLAH is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7

    #189073
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,21:10)

    Quote (Stu @ April 28 2010,20:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor  , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

                  You mean “So much for ignorance”!

    Nicole Tesla (an electronics engineer) surmised “The Ark”=63 of “YHVH”=63 was a 'giant capacitor',
    capable of providing an immense electrical discharge; once discharged it would be safe to the touch.

    The book of Samuel was written by a scribe of the King,
    NOT a Prophet of YHVH(geting information directly from the HolySpirit)!

    I told you all this before (on several occasions), Stuart; have you forgotten?
    This 'tactic' of yours reminds me of BD's favorite  tactic (used repeatedly on this forum)!
    Once you discuss a subject to death, he starts A NEW THREAD, pretending it never happened!
    Have you had an occasion to notice how BD repeatedly does this? Are you wanting to be like BD now?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Actually, what STU said cannot be dismissed with your excuse because obviously God could have protected UZZAH from the “electricity” Just like he saved others from various situations such as being in a lions den or placed in fire.

    Why couldn't you just say “I don't know” because you don't know why God did what he did. Do you pretend to know the wisdom or purpose of God testing Job so harshly?

    God said you don't know and this is why Job repented for philosophying about God having no knowledge of His wisdom.

    Remember Job was the one who was right:

    Job 42:7 (King James Version)

    7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.

    Now if you remember the story of Job, Job insisted that he was not guilty of anything and did not “deserve” to be punished. His friends insisted that he must have done something wrong. So when you talk about UZZAH remember Job but then remember that UZZAH dying is a physical thing and no one knows in the end will UZZAH be rewarded, after all he gave his life to save the ark from falling so any Christian should appreciate that sentiment.

    #189076
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,04:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,21:10)

    Quote (Stu @ April 28 2010,20:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor  , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

                  You mean “So much for ignorance”!

    Nicole Tesla (an electronics engineer) surmised “The Ark”=63 of “YHVH”=63 was a 'giant capacitor',
    capable of providing an immense electrical discharge; once discharged it would be safe to the touch.

    The book of Samuel was written by a scribe of the King,
    NOT a Prophet of YHVH(geting information directly from the HolySpirit)!

    I told you all this before (on several occasions), Stuart; have you forgotten?
    This 'tactic' of yours reminds me of BD's favorite  tactic (used repeatedly on this forum)!
    Once you discuss a subject to death, he starts A NEW THREAD, pretending it never happened!
    Have you had an occasion to notice how BD repeatedly does this? Are you wanting to be like BD now?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Actually, what STU said cannot be dismissed with your excuse because obviously God could have protected UZZAH from the “electricity” Just like he saved others from various situations such as being in a lions den or placed in fire.

    Why couldn't you just say “I don't know” because you don't know why God did what he did. Do you pretend to know the wisdom or purpose of God testing Job so harshly?

    God said you don't know and this is why Job repented for philosophying about God having no knowledge of His wisdom.

    Remember Job was the one who was right:

    Job 42:7 (King James Version)

    7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.

    Now if you remember the story of Job, Job insisted that he was not guilty of anything and did not “deserve” to be punished. His friends insisted that he must have done something wrong. So when you talk about UZZAH remember Job but then remember that UZZAH dying is a physical thing and no one knows in the end will UZZAH be rewarded, after all he gave his life to save the ark from falling so any Christian should appreciate that sentiment.


    Hi BD,

    It sounds like you can't make up your mind concerning Uzzah?
    No wonder the 'quran'=71 has you so “confused”(Babylon=71 means confusion)!

    .

    #189077
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,03:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,19:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ ALLAH(=34) is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7


    Hi BD,

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117!

                   Why do you (BD) worship the spirit of  'darkness'=91?

    Eph.6:12 For we (Christians) wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against (satan's) powers,
                  against the rulers of the “darkness”=91 of this world, against “spirit”=91″ual”=34 wickedness in high places.

                    'The Night'=91 & The Day=63

    Gen.1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
                    And “YHVH”=63 saw the light, that it was good:
                    and YHVH divided the light from the darkness.
                    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.  
                    And the evening and the morning were the first day.

                     [117=יהוה האלהים] is the Light=117

    John 1:9-13 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    He (YHVH) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(YHVH),
    to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
    .

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #189084
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,06:07)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,04:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,21:10)

    Quote (Stu @ April 28 2010,20:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,20:25)
    Hi,
    God is very tolerant.
    Satan was allowed to usurp control of earth corrupting it and even yet meet with God and converse with Him[Jb 1-2]

    Folks should not think this tolerance and patience has no end as the predicted fate of the evil one also shows.

    Real strength can wait.


    2 Samuel 6:6  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor  , Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

    6:7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

    So much for divine tolerance.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

                  You mean “So much for ignorance”!

    Nicole Tesla (an electronics engineer) surmised “The Ark”=63 of “YHVH”=63 was a 'giant capacitor',
    capable of providing an immense electrical discharge; once discharged it would be safe to the touch.

    The book of Samuel was written by a scribe of the King,
    NOT a Prophet of YHVH(geting information directly from the HolySpirit)!

    I told you all this before (on several occasions), Stuart; have you forgotten?
    This 'tactic' of yours reminds me of BD's favorite  tactic (used repeatedly on this forum)!
    Once you discuss a subject to death, he starts A NEW THREAD, pretending it never happened!
    Have you had an occasion to notice how BD repeatedly does this? Are you wanting to be like BD now?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Actually, what STU said cannot be dismissed with your excuse because obviously God could have protected UZZAH from the “electricity” Just like he saved others from various situations such as being in a lions den or placed in fire.

    Why couldn't you just say “I don't know” because you don't know why God did what he did. Do you pretend to know the wisdom or purpose of God testing Job so harshly?

    God said you don't know and this is why Job repented for philosophying about God having no knowledge of His wisdom.

    Remember Job was the one who was right:

    Job 42:7 (King James Version)

    7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.

    Now if you remember the story of Job, Job insisted that he was not guilty of anything and did not “deserve” to be punished. His friends insisted that he must have done something wrong. So when you talk about UZZAH remember Job but then remember that UZZAH dying is a physical thing and no one knows in the end will UZZAH be rewarded, after all he gave his life to save the ark from falling so any Christian should appreciate that sentiment.


    Hi BD,

    It sounds like you can't make up your mind concerning Uzzah?
    No wonder the 'quran'=71 has you so “confused”(Babylon=71 means confusion)!

    .


    If I did at least it was “My Mind” you seem to be making up the mind of God.

    #189085
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,06:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,03:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,19:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ ALLAH(=34) is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7


    Hi BD,

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117!

                   Why do you (BD) worship the spirit of  'darkness'=91?

    Eph.6:12 For we (Christians) wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against (satan's) powers,
                  against the rulers of the “darkness”=91 of this world, against “spirit”=91″ual”=34 wickedness in high places.

                    'The Night'=91 & The Day=63

    Gen.1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
                    And “YHVH”=63 saw the light, that it was good:
                    and YHVH divided the light from the darkness.
                    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.  
                    And the evening and the morning were the first day.

                     [117=יהוה האלהים] is the Light=117

    John 1:9-13 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    He (YHVH) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(YHVH),
    to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
    .

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you say I agree with Satan by saying that he is NOT the God of this world?

    But you say that Satan wanted to put his place above God and you then put Satan's place above God calling him “GOD”.

    It's shameful that you are upset with me for not agreeing that Satan is God of this world.

    I will never give Satan the glory you ascribe to him.

    #189105
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,07:42)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,06:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,03:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,19:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ ALLAH(=34) is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7


    Hi BD,

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117!

                   Why do you (BD) worship the spirit of  'darkness'=91?

    Eph.6:12 For we (Christians) wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against (satan's) powers,
                  against the rulers of the “darkness”=91 of this world, against “spirit”=91″ual”=34 wickedness in high places.

                    'The Night'=91 & The Day=63

    Gen.1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
                    And “YHVH”=63 saw the light, that it was good:
                    and YHVH divided the light from the darkness.
                    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.  
                    And the evening and the morning were the first day.

                     [117=יהוה האלהים] is the Light=117

    John 1:9-13 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    He (YHVH) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(YHVH),
    to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
    .

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH
    (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you say I agree with Satan by saying that he is NOT the God of this world?

    But you say that Satan wanted to put his place above God and you then put Satan's place above God calling him “GOD”.

    It's shameful that you are upset with me for not agreeing that Satan is God of this world.

    I will never give Satan the glory you ascribe to him.


    Why do you put his fraudulent book above “The Bible”?
    .

    #189135
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,11:27)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,07:42)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,06:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,03:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,19:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ ALLAH(=34) is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7


    Hi BD,

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117!

                   Why do you (BD) worship the spirit of  'darkness'=91?

    Eph.6:12 For we (Christians) wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against (satan's) powers,
                  against the rulers of the “darkness”=91 of this world, against “spirit”=91″ual”=34 wickedness in high places.

                    'The Night'=91 & The Day=63

    Gen.1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
                    And “YHVH”=63 saw the light, that it was good:
                    and YHVH divided the light from the darkness.
                    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.  
                    And the evening and the morning were the first day.

                     [117=יהוה האלהים] is the Light=117

    John 1:9-13 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    He (YHVH) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(YHVH),
    to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
    .

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible&#39
    ;s Center Chapter
    ], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you say I agree with Satan by saying that he is NOT the God of this world?

    But you say that Satan wanted to put his place above God and you then put Satan's place above God calling him “GOD”.

    It's shameful that you are upset with me for not agreeing that Satan is God of this world.

    I will never give Satan the glory you ascribe to him.


    Why do you put his fraudulent book above “The Bible”?
    .


    Why do you keep glorifying Satan?

    #189157
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,15:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,11:27)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,07:42)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,06:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,03:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2010,19:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ ALLAH(=34) is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7


    Hi BD,

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117!

                   Why do you (BD) worship the spirit of  'darkness'=91?

    Eph.6:12 For we (Christians) wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against (satan's) powers,
                  against the rulers of the “darkness”=91 of this world, against “spirit”=91″ual”=34 wickedness in high places.

                    'The Night'=91 & The Day=63

    Gen.1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
                    And “YHVH”=63 saw the light, that it was good:
                    and YHVH divided the light from the darkness.
                    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.  
                    And the evening and the morning were the first day.

                     [117=יהוה האלהים] is the Light=117

    John 1:9-13 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    He (YHVH) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(YHVH),
    to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
    .

                           
        YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you say I agree with Satan by saying that he is NOT the God of this world?

    But you say that Satan wanted to put his place above God and you then put Satan's place above God calling him “GOD”.

    It's shameful that you are upset with me for not agreeing that Satan is God of this world.

    I will never give Satan the glory you ascribe to him.


    Why do you put his fraudulent book above “The Bible”?
    .


    Why do you keep glorifying Satan?


    Hi BD,

    You're looking at yourself in the mirror again, telling me what you're doing.
    James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is
                      like unto a man beholding his natural face in a [mirror]:

    You see your own reflection as you look at me
    Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
    with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
    thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will
    show thyself froward. For thou(YHVH) wilt save the afflicted people; but will bring down high looks.

    Yet there is NO convincing you of this simple “Bible Truth”=117!
    2Cor.3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
    In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds
    of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel
    of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #189199
    Laurel
    Participant

    Boditharta,
    When the Messiah said now is the judgment, now the prince of this world shall be cast out is speaking of a time yet to be fulfilled. He was speaking the The Judgment Day. A day when all the earth will be judged, some to condemnation and destruction, some to “everlasting” life. After this the good will be restored, and death and the grave will be gone forevermore. This place is the kingdom in which the Son of ELohim will reign.

    YHWH's will be done on earth as it is in heaven, HaSatan will be gone from this place, never to rear his ugly head again. This is yet to be… But it is very near.

    I was wondering why you think that we live in the kingdom of YHWH already when all has yet to be fulfilled, and the earth is full of wickedness.

    Does not the quran teach heaven and virgins and such? Isn't this why so many muslims are murderers? I heard that the ones who do the killing of the Jews and Christains have a better place in heaven than the everyday muslims. Please correct me if i am wrong.

    This earth as we know it today is not the reign of heaven where Yahushua Messiah will reign.

    #189210
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,17:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,15:51)

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    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45)
    Hi BD,

    satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)


    Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:

    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?


    Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
    Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
    .


    Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?

    Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.

    Why do you attempt to 'twist' my words at every turn? I will attempt to clarify things for you once again; OK?

                               YHVH is the Creator

    Jer.10:11-12 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even
    they (false gods) shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He(YHVH) hath made the earth
    by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

             “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    The 'one'=34 who is in the 'book of fraud'=114 currently blinding you is satan; BD. He is going to perish from off the earth! (Jer.10:11)    
    2Cor.4:34 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them
    which believe not, lest the light of the glorious “Gospel”=74 of “Jesus”=74 Christ, who is the image of God(YHVH), should shine unto them.

    .


    Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
    John 12:30-32

    You still don't believe Jesus? You keep repeating

    Quote
    “satan is: 'the god' of the current world SYSTEM“!

    But Jesus doesn't agree with you at all.

    Now for everyone to see and to stop you from saying what is corrupt and utter Nonsense repeat after me:

    “Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.”

    “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”

    And just so there is no mistaking who YHVH is God of, He is God of all

    Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
    1 Chronicles 29:10-12

    Even people you don't like YHVH/ ALLAH(=34) is still God over all:

    And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    So once again who is God of this world?
    2 Chronicles 20:5-7


    Hi BD,

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117!

                   Why do you (BD) worship the spirit of  'darkness'=91?

    Eph.6:12 For we (Christians) wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against (satan's) powers,
                  against the rulers of the “darkness”=91 of this world, against “spirit”=91″ual”=34 wickedness in high places.

                    'The Night'=91 & The Day=63

    Gen.1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
                    And “YHVH”=63 saw the light, that it was good:
                    and YHVH divided the light from the darkness.
                    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.  
                    And the evening and the morning were the first day.

                     [117=יהוה האלהים] is the Light=117

    John 1:9-13 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    He (YHVH) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(YHVH),
    to them gave he power to be
    come the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
    .

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you say I agree with Satan by saying that he is NOT the God of this world?

    But you say that Satan wanted to put his place above God and you then put Satan's place above God calling him “GOD”.

    It's shameful that you are upset with me for not agreeing that Satan is God of this world.

    I will never give Satan the glory you ascribe to him.


    Why do you put his fraudulent book above “The Bible”?
    .


    Why do you keep glorifying Satan?


    Hi BD,

    You're looking at yourself in the mirror again, telling me what you're doing.
    James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is
                      like unto a man beholding his natural face in a [mirror]:

    You see your own reflection as you look at me
    Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
    with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
    thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will
    show thyself froward. For thou(YHVH) wilt save the afflicted people; but will bring down high looks.

    Yet there is NO convincing you of this simple “Bible Truth”=117!
    2Cor.3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
    In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds
    of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel
    of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you now calling yourself YHVH?

    That is blaphemy!!!!!

    Man was made in the image of God and not ED

    #189213
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Laurel @ April 30 2010,02:34)
    Boditharta,
    When the Messiah said now is the judgment, now the prince of this world shall be cast out is speaking of a time yet to be fulfilled. He was speaking the The Judgment Day.  A day when all the earth will be judged, some to condemnation and destruction, some to “everlasting” life.  After this the good will be restored, and death and the grave will be gone forevermore. This place is the kingdom in which the Son of ELohim will reign.

    YHWH's will be done on earth as it is in heaven, HaSatan will be gone from this place, never to rear his ugly head again. This is yet to be… But it is very near.

    I was wondering why you think that we live in the kingdom of YHWH already when all has yet to be fulfilled, and the earth is full of wickedness.

    Does not the quran teach heaven and virgins and such? Isn't this why so many muslims are murderers? I heard that the ones who do the killing of the Jews and Christains have a better place in heaven than the everyday muslims. Please correct me if i am wrong.

    This earth as we know it today is not the reign of heaven where Yahushua Messiah will reign.


    Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
    Luke 17:20-22

    So if Satan has been cast out of you and you have submitted to God the kingdom has already come and is.

    You have many wrong assertions about Muslims and The Quran

    Also it is illogical to mention to say that “So many muslims” are murderers first of all there are over 1 billion Muslims in the world so the number of thos who have commited “Murder” would be incredibly small.

    If you are talking about murders committed during war time would you say that more Muslims have been murdered or have committed murder? Have you any idea how many innocent Muslim men women and children have been killed in Iraq or Afghanistan?

    If Jesus says Satan has NOW been cast out I am inclined to believe him as being born of the Spirit is what casts Satan out.

    So outside the Kingdom is weeping and gnashing that is the state of the world outside of the knowledge.

    We are to conduct ourselves in this world as if it were the next.

    Besides that, how can you be a Christian if you don't believe that Satan has been cast out because of your belief in his sacrifice on the cross?

    Of course I know that ,as it says in the Quran, God saved Jesus from the cross.

    #189214
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 30 2010,04:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,17:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2010,15:51)

    Why do you keep glorifying Satan?


    Hi BD,

    You're looking at yourself in the mirror again, telling me what you're doing.
    James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is
                      like unto a man beholding his natural face in a [mirror]:

    You see your own reflection as you look at me
    Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
    with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
    thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will
    show thyself froward. For thou(YHVH) wilt save the afflicted people; but will bring down high looks.

    Yet there is NO convincing you of this simple “Bible Truth”=117!
    2Cor.3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
    In whom 'the god' of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds
    of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel
    of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you now calling yourself YHVH?

    That is blaphemy!!!!!

    Man was made in the image of God and not ED


    Hi my wayward Brother,

    Your god is 'the god' of confusion or as the Bible puts it: 'Babylon'=71 (quran=71) meaning confusion.

    Loose the hate and my God(YHVH) will release you from your prison!
    Rev.18:1-2 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,
    having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen,
    is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit,
    and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    Here is how you see your own reflection in me…

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,12:56)
    Ed is totally blind by his ambition for self-importance.

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22)
    you constantly are being dishonest.

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56)
    You are deep in Sin

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22)
    you hate God

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,14:07)
    You have beared false witness

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,12:03)
    why lie to him?

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10)
    You should repent bearing False Witness…(How evil)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17)
    you will never be fit to be a witness

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59)
    you are living in delusion

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05)
    What a hypocrite.

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56)
    you are truly lost

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2010,04:51)
    you will be kept in the dark.

    1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love [GOD The Father=117] hath bestowed upon us (true believers),
    that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

    1John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
    whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
    1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm (JEHOVAH GOD)!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org]http/….rg]http

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