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Quote (Laurel @ April 27 2010,02:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2010,08:34) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,14:02) I do not know that Mohamed taught that Yahushua was a prophet, and that the gentiles/lost sheep of Yisra'el should follow Him. All i know is that Yahushua the Messiah taught TORAH and that the Christians today believe that the TORAH was done away with. So sad!
I know that the Messiah Yahushua kept the commands in TORAH and said that if we loved Him, that we too should “Keep the commands found in the TORAH.”All of this said, :What is a Muslim to me?” And why should i care about someone who is named Mohamed? Who is he to me? I learned that the country rulers of Arabia destroyed all the former writings, so that they could form one book, called the KORAN, so that no man could dispute the beliefs of the “current leaders” durring their reign. Why would i want to follow a man-made religion? That would be like being a Catholic or a Jewish Orthodox. When all i need is the TORAH that which Mosheh wrote, to know the will of the Holy One of Yisra'el. I can look at the “works” of Messiah Yahushua and see that the TORAH is and will be for ever and ever!
I can see for myself that YHWH loves Ishma'el because he heard the cry of Ishma'els mother in the desert. YHWH promised Ishma'el much land. YHWH provided for Ishma'el much like He did for Isaac, only Isaac held the promise of the KINGDOM, and so to be a part of that kingdom, we ALL need to be obedient to YHWH, and not some man-made declaration of independence!
YHWH is Elohim and there is none else among the heavens and in the earth. One day all will know this, and all will come to worship YHWH.
Your post was very well stated. The Quran is fully supportive of The Torah and The Gospel. The issue is not about what is accepted but why something is not accepted. We know that the Torah was given to Moses and that it was proof for a People in his day and so it also was with Christ Jesus and so Muhammad was given The Quran to guide those who were Pagan and Polytheistic to Worship God and so those who were lost in the deserts found God and became Monotheistic in the midst of Christians preaching a “Triune god” God is ONE.So it was essential for God to send down the Guidance called the Quran which showed amongst other things that ALL mankind and not just the Jews were created to worship GOD.
Islam when understood properly has restored TRUE and Perfect MONOTHEISM to Mankind.
To say ALLAH is to say “THE GOD” in Islam there are no gods or mention of gods because that is a perverted Idea. Even the word Elohim has been misunderstood because of it's plural nature but it simply means POWERS as in the “Powers that BE”.
Many Christians have perverted the usage and attributed it to meaning a trinity from the beginning and there is no trinity there is ONLY GOD and NO ONE else.
If You SUBMIT to YHWH then you are a MUSLIM(Submitter) do not let words cloud a very important issue. If you were Muhammad and went to preach SUBMISSION to GOD to anyone in that language you would use the word that pertained to Submission.
Languages are for communication and meaning is for understanding so would you ever say that you are not a Submitter to God? If you would never say that then you can never say that you are not a Muslim except it be out of ignorance or ego.
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I'll take your comment bit by bit and reply to each thought separately.You said the quran is fully supportive of the Torah and the Gospel.
I read the book called “the cow” and i saw somewhat similar stories about Adam and Chaua being the first man and woman, but i also saw much hatred toward christians and jews in that book and i remember something about, “if you see a jew behind a rock to kill him.”
With that being said, i submit to you that although the quran “recognizes” the Torah, that supporting Torah would mean “walking in it.” The word support means to prop up. It is in doing the Torah that we support Torah, and become “submitters” to ET HYH YHWH Elochim of Abraham, like Abraham did.
Now i charge that if those who kept the quran, and the christain religions, that they would keep the 7th day Shabbat, and the Creator's Appointed Feast Days, then i could agree that they are in “support” of Torah.
If these same peoples also knew that YAHUSHUA the MOSHIACH was the Son of Elohim, and not Elohim HIMSELF, and that YAHUSHUA is the one prophet Whom YHWH sent, Whom we must “shooach (bow down) to” then i could say that they also “supported” YHWH who made the Word, and spoke the Torah, and Who formed this Son in the womb of a woman, like He formed Adam from the dust of the adamah (red earth). Because there is only ONE ELOHIM and HIS NAME IS YHWH.
His Name is not god, GOD, El, I Am, LORD, ALLAH, or any other “title” we can place on Him. He actually has a Name that even the Jews refuse to say, and the American christians are blind to by their own Scriptures which were edited to “remove His Set-apart Name.”
You said the issue is not hat is accepted but what is not accepted.
So if what you are saying is true than i can accept everything as good? I know better.
The Torah is forever and ever. The Sabbath was established at creation, as well the Torah. As all things are from the beginning, and when YHWH smote the first animal and clothed them in the garden, He taught them about His Son Yahushua, meaning that YHWH is Salvation, and this is how it comes to us.
Why did muslims need a quran? because Yisra'el FAILED at bring the muslims the True Gospel themselves. And hopefully you will know one day and soon that the Torah is forever, and these are the commands that Abraham kept because it was written in His heart to follow YHWH.
Yisra'el was supposed to go out to the gentiles/pagans/nations with all that YHWH gave them at Siani. Over and over again Yisra'el did not do the will of YHWH but for them it was so much easier to just become a pert of the pagan gentiles and worship the way of the gentiles, which is what “every religion” does today!
If Elohim sent the quran it was for those who wanted to follow a dillusion, much like the doctrines and traditions in the christain church and the takanot and ma'asim of the jews.
Islam has restored nothing! That is like saying that the Torah was not enough and that man needed to interfere with his own rules to make the world a better place, when it has been us, man, all along who has destroyed what was good and right and made wrong into right.
If you agree Torah, then why do you submit to something else? I do not want you to answer me. Just something for you to discuss with our ABBA.
If islam restored anything then why is there murder continually?
We agree the trinity is a man-made doctrine, a doctrine of devils.
Because i submit to YHWH does not make me a Muslim. I am no religion. Following YHWH is a way of life to me, i do not go to church, as there are no true ones in the world today.
שׁוּח to humble oneself, to bow down
Interesting post.If you haven't read the entire Quran you would be prejudging its contents however it is in the Torah that if the Jews turn away from “God” what would be the consequences:
Ezekiel 4:11-13 (King James Version)
11Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
12And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
13And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
If you really understand the Torah you will understand the Quran. There is many such verses.
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:7-9Can you show me a single verse in the Torah that says Abraham practiced keeping the Sabbath? The Sabbath was not commanded to be kept the way it was with the Jews until Moses.
But the Quran says clearly:
O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #47)And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: “Enter the gate with humility”; and (once again) we commanded them: “Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath.” And we took from them a solemn covenant.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #154)The sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed (as to its observance); But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #124)And you are right about the Name of God referred to as Hashem because we are not to profane the name of God and Therefore it is Most proper to say ALLAH because ALLAH means THE GOD in the sense that there is NO OTHER GOD and NO ONE ELSE has a RIGHT to be GOD and hence in ARABIC there is no such plurality possible there is no allahs as in english “gods” are said and in Hebrew “Elohim” is misunderstood. So when saying ALLAH it is the Ultimate respect and reverence to THE GOD of ALL.
Everything is Good:
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:30-31And because all things are in accord to the Will of God even evil has its place or do you not understand:
Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we obey the voice of the LORD our God.
Jeremiah 42:5-7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:6-8You can call yourself what you like but if you BOW DOWN and Submit to THE GOD you are in the arabic language a Muslim.
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,05:11) Quote (Laurel @ April 27 2010,02:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2010,08:34) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,14:02) I do not know that Mohamed taught that Yahushua was a prophet, and that the gentiles/lost sheep of Yisra'el should follow Him. All i know is that Yahushua the Messiah taught TORAH and that the Christians today believe that the TORAH was done away with. So sad!
I know that the Messiah Yahushua kept the commands in TORAH and said that if we loved Him, that we too should “Keep the commands found in the TORAH.”All of this said, :What is a Muslim to me?” And why should i care about someone who is named Mohamed? Who is he to me? I learned that the country rulers of Arabia destroyed all the former writings, so that they could form one book, called the KORAN, so that no man could dispute the beliefs of the “current leaders” durring their reign. Why would i want to follow a man-made religion? That would be like being a Catholic or a Jewish Orthodox. When all i need is the TORAH that which Mosheh wrote, to know the will of the Holy One of Yisra'el. I can look at the “works” of Messiah Yahushua and see that the TORAH is and will be for ever and ever!
I can see for myself that YHWH loves Ishma'el because he heard the cry of Ishma'els mother in the desert. YHWH promised Ishma'el much land. YHWH provided for Ishma'el much like He did for Isaac, only Isaac held the promise of the KINGDOM, and so to be a part of that kingdom, we ALL need to be obedient to YHWH, and not some man-made declaration of independence!
YHWH is Elohim and there is none else among the heavens and in the earth. One day all will know this, and all will come to worship YHWH.
Your post was very well stated. The Quran is fully supportive of The Torah and The Gospel. The issue is not about what is accepted but why something is not accepted. We know that the Torah was given to Moses and that it was proof for a People in his day and so it also was with Christ Jesus and so Muhammad was given The Quran to guide those who were Pagan and Polytheistic to Worship God and so those who were lost in the deserts found God and became Monotheistic in the midst of Christians preaching a “Triune god” God is ONE.So it was essential for God to send down the Guidance called the Quran which showed amongst other things that ALL mankind and not just the Jews were created to worship GOD.
Islam when understood properly has restored TRUE and Perfect MONOTHEISM to Mankind.
To say ALLAH is to say “THE GOD” in Islam there are no gods or mention of gods because that is a perverted Idea. Even the word Elohim has been misunderstood because of it's plural nature but it simply means POWERS as in the “Powers that BE”.
Many Christians have perverted the usage and attributed it to meaning a trinity from the beginning and there is no trinity there is ONLY GOD and NO ONE else.
If You SUBMIT to YHWH then you are a MUSLIM(Submitter) do not let words cloud a very important issue. If you were Muhammad and went to preach SUBMISSION to GOD to anyone in that language you would use the word that pertained to Submission.
Languages are for communication and meaning is for understanding so would you ever say that you are not a Submitter to God? If you would never say that then you can never say that you are not a Muslim except it be out of ignorance or ego.
In german= Beschwerdeführer
In dutch= indiener
in french=émetteur
المرسل
השולח
I'll take your comment bit by bit and reply to each thought separately.You said the quran is fully supportive of the Torah and the Gospel.
I read the book called “the cow” and i saw somewhat similar stories about Adam and Chaua being the first man and woman, but i also saw much hatred toward christians and jews in that book and i remember something about, “if you see a jew behind a rock to kill him.”
With that being said, i submit to you that although the quran “recognizes” the Torah, that supporting Torah would mean “walking in it.” The word support means to prop up. It is in doing the Torah that we support Torah, and become “submitters” to ET HYH YHWH Elochim of Abraham, like Abraham did.
Now i charge that if those who kept the quran, and the christain religions, that they would keep the 7th day Shabbat, and the Creator's Appointed Feast Days, then i could agree that they are in “support” of Torah.
If these same peoples also knew that YAHUSHUA the MOSHIACH was the Son of Elohim, and not Elohim HIMSELF, and that YAHUSHUA is the one prophet Whom YHWH sent, Whom we must “shooach (bow down) to” then i could say that they also “supported” YHWH who made the Word, and spoke the Torah, and Who formed this Son in the womb of a woman, like He formed Adam from the dust of the adamah (red earth). Because there is only ONE ELOHIM and HIS NAME IS YHWH.
His Name is not god, GOD, El, I Am, LORD, ALLAH, or any other “title” we can place on Him. He actually has a Name that even the Jews refuse to say, and the American christians are blind to by their own Scriptures which were edited to “remove His Set-apart Name.”
You said the issue is not hat is accepted but what is not accepted.
So if what you are saying is true than i can accept everything as good? I know better.
The Torah is forever and ever. The Sabbath was established at creation, as well the Torah. As all things are from the beginning, and when YHWH smote the first animal and clothed them in the garden, He taught them about His Son Yahushua, meaning that YHWH is Salvation, and this is how it comes to us.
Why did muslims need a quran? because Yisra'el FAILED at bring the muslims the True Gospel themselves. And hopefully you will know one day and soon that the Torah is forever, and these are the commands that Abraham kept because it was written in His heart to follow YHWH.
Yisra'el was supposed to go out to the gentiles/pagans/nations with all that YHWH gave them at Siani. Over and over again Yisra'el did not do the will of YHWH but for them it was so much easier to just become a pert of the pagan gentiles and worship the way of the gentiles, which is what “every religion” does today!
If Elohim sent the quran it was for those who wanted to follow a dillusion, much like the doctrines and traditions in the christain church and the takanot and ma'asim of the jews.
Islam has restored nothing! That is like saying that the Torah was not enough and that man needed to interfere with his own rules to make the world a better place, when it has been us, man, all along who has destroyed what was good and right and made wrong into right.
If you agree Torah, then why do you submit to something else? I do not want you to answer me. Just something for you to discuss with our ABBA.
If islam restored anything then why is there murder continually?
We agree the trinity is a man-made doctrine, a doctrine of devils.
Because i submit to YHWH does not make me a Muslim. I am no
religion. Following YHWH is a way of life to me, i do not go to church, as there are no true ones in the world today.שׁוּח to humble oneself, to bow down
Interesting post.If you haven't read the entire Quran you would be prejudging its contents however it is in the Torah that if the Jews turn away from “God” what would be the consequences:
Ezekiel 4:11-13 (King James Version)
11Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
12And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
13And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
If you really understand the Torah you will understand the Quran. There is many such verses.
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:7-9Can you show me a single verse in the Torah that says Abraham practiced keeping the Sabbath? The Sabbath was not commanded to be kept the way it was with the Jews until Moses.
But the Quran says clearly:
O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #47)And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: “Enter the gate with humility”; and (once again) we commanded them: “Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath.” And we took from them a solemn covenant.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #154)The sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed (as to its observance); But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #124)And you are right about the Name of God referred to as Hashem because we are not to profane the name of God and Therefore it is Most proper to say ALLAH because ALLAH means THE GOD in the sense that there is NO OTHER GOD and NO ONE ELSE has a RIGHT to be GOD and hence in ARABIC there is no such plurality possible there is no allahs as in english “gods” are said and in Hebrew “Elohim” is misunderstood. So when saying ALLAH it is the Ultimate respect and reverence to THE GOD of ALL.
Everything is Good:
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:30-31And because all things are in accord to the Will of God even evil has its place or do you not understand:
Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we obey the voice of the LORD our God.
Jeremiah 42:5-7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:6-8You can call yourself what you like but if you BOW DOWN and Submit to THE GOD you are in the arabic language a Muslim.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2010,03:45) There is no such thing as “allah god” .
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,04:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,18:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2010,08:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,16:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2010,12:22) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,11:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2010,04:16) Now who is doing the blinding is it Satan the one you call “God”… Was Satan(the one you call god) really in control…
You severely lack knowledge and understanding:Stop giving Satan powers and titles that do not belong to him
The only thing you should have noticed was he called your system witchcraft.Also the presenter was ignorant you cannot take symbols of one language and assign them a foreign meaning.
Rom. 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things,
and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
.
It is a form of divining ED but the point was you pointed me to listen to someone that disregards you, it just doesn't make any sense its like when you tried to agree with an Atheist to bring some validity to your cause it makes no sense.
Hi BD,I don't care how many people tell others to disregard me,
but they can't disregard my God: “YHVH”!You seem to overlook the guy on the video is telling everyone…'your god is a fake'.
.
There are no “gods” There is only GOD
No wonder your so 'confused', for you to think satan doesn't exist?2Cor.4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds
of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
.Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,06:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,05:11) Quote (Laurel @ April 27 2010,02:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2010,08:34) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,14:02) I do not know that Mohamed taught that Yahushua was a prophet, and that the gentiles/lost sheep of Yisra'el should follow Him. All i know is that Yahushua the Messiah taught TORAH and that the Christians today believe that the TORAH was done away with. So sad!
I know that the Messiah Yahushua kept the commands in TORAH and said that if we loved Him, that we too should “Keep the commands found in the TORAH.”All of this said, :What is a Muslim to me?” And why should i care about someone who is named Mohamed? Who is he to me? I learned that the country rulers of Arabia destroyed all the former writings, so that they could form one book, called the KORAN, so that no man could dispute the beliefs of the “current leaders” durring their reign. Why would i want to follow a man-made religion? That would be like being a Catholic or a Jewish Orthodox. When all i need is the TORAH that which Mosheh wrote, to know the will of the Holy One of Yisra'el. I can look at the “works” of Messiah Yahushua and see that the TORAH is and will be for ever and ever!
I can see for myself that YHWH loves Ishma'el because he heard the cry of Ishma'els mother in the desert. YHWH promised Ishma'el much land. YHWH provided for Ishma'el much like He did for Isaac, only Isaac held the promise of the KINGDOM, and so to be a part of that kingdom, we ALL need to be obedient to YHWH, and not some man-made declaration of independence!
YHWH is Elohim and there is none else among the heavens and in the earth. One day all will know this, and all will come to worship YHWH.
Your post was very well stated. The Quran is fully supportive of The Torah and The Gospel. The issue is not about what is accepted but why something is not accepted. We know that the Torah was given to Moses and that it was proof for a People in his day and so it also was with Christ Jesus and so Muhammad was given The Quran to guide those who were Pagan and Polytheistic to Worship God and so those who were lost in the deserts found God and became Monotheistic in the midst of Christians preaching a “Triune god” God is ONE.So it was essential for God to send down the Guidance called the Quran which showed amongst other things that ALL mankind and not just the Jews were created to worship GOD.
Islam when understood properly has restored TRUE and Perfect MONOTHEISM to Mankind.
To say ALLAH is to say “THE GOD” in Islam there are no gods or mention of gods because that is a perverted Idea. Even the word Elohim has been misunderstood because of it's plural nature but it simply means POWERS as in the “Powers that BE”.
Many Christians have perverted the usage and attributed it to meaning a trinity from the beginning and there is no trinity there is ONLY GOD and NO ONE else.
If You SUBMIT to YHWH then you are a MUSLIM(Submitter) do not let words cloud a very important issue. If you were Muhammad and went to preach SUBMISSION to GOD to anyone in that language you would use the word that pertained to Submission.
Languages are for communication and meaning is for understanding so would you ever say that you are not a Submitter to God? If you would never say that then you can never say that you are not a Muslim except it be out of ignorance or ego.
In german= Beschwerdeführer
In dutch= indiener
in french=émetteur
المرسل
השולח
I'll take your comment bit by bit and reply to each thought separately.You said the quran is fully supportive of the Torah and the Gospel.
I read the book called “the cow” and i saw somewhat similar stories about Adam and Chaua being the first man and woman, but i also saw much hatred toward christians and jews in that book and i remember something about, “if you see a jew behind a rock to kill him.”
With that being said, i submit to you that although the quran “recognizes” the Torah, that supporting Torah would mean “walking in it.” The word support means to prop up. It is in doing the Torah that we support Torah, and become “submitters” to ET HYH YHWH Elochim of Abraham, like Abraham did.
Now i charge that if those who kept the quran, and the christain religions, that they would keep the 7th day Shabbat, and the Creator's Appointed Feast Days, then i could agree that they are in “support” of Torah.
If these same peoples also knew that YAHUSHUA the MOSHIACH was the Son of Elohim, and not Elohim HIMSELF, and that YAHUSHUA is the one prophet Whom YHWH sent, Whom we must “shooach (bow down) to” then i could say that they also “supported” YHWH who made the Word, and spoke the Torah, and Who formed this Son in the womb of a woman, like He formed Adam from the dust of the adamah (red earth). Because there is only ONE ELOHIM and HIS NAME IS YHWH.
His Name is not god, GOD, El, I Am, LORD, ALLAH, or any other “title” we can place on Him. He actually has a Name that even the Jews refuse to say, and the American christians are blind to by their own Scriptures which were edited to “remove His Set-apart Name.”
You said the issue is not hat is accepted but what is not accepted.
So if what you are saying is true than i can accept everything as good? I know better.
The Torah is forever and ever. The Sabbath was established at creation, as well the Torah. As all things are from the beginning, and when YHWH smote the first animal and clothed them in the garden, He taught them about His Son Yahushua, meaning that YHWH is Salvation, and this is how it comes to us.
Why did muslims need a quran? because Yisra'el FAILED at bring the muslims the True Gospel themselves. And hopefully you will know one day and soon that the Torah is forever, and these are the commands that Abraham kept because it was written in His heart to follow YHWH.
Yisra'el was supposed to go out to the gentiles/pagans/nations with all that YHWH gave them at Siani. Over and over again Yisra'el did not do the will of YHWH but for them it was so much easier to just become a pert of the pagan gentiles and worship the way of the gentiles, which is what “every religion” does today!
If Elohim sent the quran it was for those who wanted to follow a dillusion, much like the doctrines and traditions in the christain church and the takanot and ma'asim of the jews.
Islam has restored nothing! That is like saying that the Torah was not enough and that man needed to interfere with his own rules to make the world a better place, when it has been us, man, all along who has destroyed what was good and right and made wrong into right.
If you agree Torah, then why do you submit to something else? I do not want you to answer me. Just something for you to discuss with our AB
BA.If islam restored anything then why is there murder continually?
We agree the trinity is a man-made doctrine, a doctrine of devils.
Because i submit to YHWH does not make me a Muslim. I am no religion. Following YHWH is a way of life to me, i do not go to church, as there are no true ones in the world today.
שׁוּח to humble oneself, to bow down
Interesting post.If you haven't read the entire Quran you would be prejudging its contents however it is in the Torah that if the Jews turn away from “God” what would be the consequences:
Ezekiel 4:11-13 (King James Version)
11Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
12And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
13And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
If you really understand the Torah you will understand the Quran. There is many such verses.
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:7-9Can you show me a single verse in the Torah that says Abraham practiced keeping the Sabbath? The Sabbath was not commanded to be kept the way it was with the Jews until Moses.
But the Quran says clearly:
O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #47)And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: “Enter the gate with humility”; and (once again) we commanded them: “Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath.” And we took from them a solemn covenant.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #154)The sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed (as to its observance); But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #124)And you are right about the Name of God referred to as Hashem because we are not to profane the name of God and Therefore it is Most proper to say ALLAH because ALLAH means THE GOD in the sense that there is NO OTHER GOD and NO ONE ELSE has a RIGHT to be GOD and hence in ARABIC there is no such plurality possible there is no allahs as in english “gods” are said and in Hebrew “Elohim” is misunderstood. So when saying ALLAH it is the Ultimate respect and reverence to THE GOD of ALL.
Everything is Good:
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:30-31And because all things are in accord to the Will of God even evil has its place or do you not understand:
Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we obey the voice of the LORD our God.
Jeremiah 42:5-7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:6-8You can call yourself what you like but if you BOW DOWN and Submit to THE GOD you are in the arabic language a Muslim.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2010,03:45) There is no such thing as “allah god” .
Yes, you cannot say “Allah God” because ALLAH is “THE GOD”would you say “YHVH GOD”? and if so, why would you say that? Is there some other God whereas to make a distinction?
YHVH IS GOD HE IS “THE GOD” HE IS ALLAH.
Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,06:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,04:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,18:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2010,08:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,16:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2010,12:22) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,11:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2010,04:16) Now who is doing the blinding is it Satan the one you call “God”… Was Satan(the one you call god) really in control…
You severely lack knowledge and understanding:Stop giving Satan powers and titles that do not belong to him
The only thing you should have noticed was he called your system witchcraft.Also the presenter was ignorant you cannot take symbols of one language and assign them a foreign meaning.
Rom. 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things,
and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
.
It is a form of divining ED but the point was you pointed me to listen to someone that disregards you, it just doesn't make any sense its like when you tried to agree with an Atheist to bring some validity to your cause it makes no sense.
Hi BD,I don't care how many people tell others to disregard me,
but they can't disregard my God: “YHVH”!You seem to overlook the guy on the video is telling everyone…'your god is a fake'.
.
There are no “gods” There is only GOD
No wonder your so 'confused', for you to think satan doesn't exist?2Cor.4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds
of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
.
Satan does exist but he hasn't created this world nor is he the God of it.God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Acts 17:23-25So who is the Lord and God of this world?
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,10:24) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,06:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,04:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,18:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2010,08:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,16:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2010,12:22) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,11:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2010,04:16) Now who is doing the blinding is it Satan the one you call “God”… Was Satan(the one you call god) really in control…
You severely lack knowledge and understanding:Stop giving Satan powers and titles that do not belong to him
The only thing you should have noticed was he called your system witchcraft.Also the presenter was ignorant you cannot take symbols of one language and assign them a foreign meaning.
Rom. 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things,
and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
.
It is a form of divining ED but the point was you pointed me to listen to someone that disregards you, it just doesn't make any sense its like when you tried to agree with an Atheist to bring some validity to your cause it makes no sense.
Hi BD,I don't care how many people tell others to disregard me,
but they can't disregard my God: “YHVH”!You seem to overlook the guy on the video is telling everyone…'your god is a fake'.
.
There are no “gods” There is only GOD
No wonder your so 'confused', for you to think satan doesn't exist?2Cor.4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds
of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
.
Satan does exist but he hasn't created this world nor is he the God of it.God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Acts 17:23-25So who is the Lord and God of this world?
Hi BD,satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
.Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,10:20) would you say “YHVH GOD”? and if so, why would you say that?
Hi BD,Because it's “Bible Truth”=117
“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45) Hi BD, satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?
Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,10:20) would you say “YHVH GOD”? and if so, why would you say that?
Hi BD,Because it's “Bible Truth”=117
“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
YHVH is GOD so why would you ever say “YHVH GOD” and why would I say “ALLAH GOD” when ALLAH means “THE GOD”Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45) Hi BD, satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?
Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
.Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45) Hi BD, satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?
Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
.
Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.
bodhitharta said,
“Interesting post.
If you haven't read the entire Quran you would be prejudging its contents however it is in the Torah that if the Jews turn away from “God” what would be the consequences:
Ezekiel 4:11-13 (King James Version)
11Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
12And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
13And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
If you really understand the Torah you will understand the Quran. There is many such verses.
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:7-9Can you show me a single verse in the Torah that says Abraham practiced keeping the Sabbath? The Sabbath was not commanded to be kept the way it was with the Jews until Moses.
But the Quran says clearly:
O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #47)And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: “Enter the gate with humility”; and (once again) we commanded them: “Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath.” And we took from them a solemn covenant.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #154)The sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed (as to its observance); But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #124)And you are right about the Name of God referred to as Hashem because we are not to profane the name of God and Therefore it is Most proper to say ALLAH because ALLAH means THE GOD in the sense that there is NO OTHER GOD and NO ONE ELSE has a RIGHT to be GOD and hence in ARABIC there is no such plurality possible there is no allahs as in english “gods” are said and in Hebrew “Elohim” is misunderstood. So when saying ALLAH it is the Ultimate respect and reverence to THE GOD of ALL.
Everything is Good:
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:30-31And because all things are in accord to the Will of God even evil has its place or do you not understand:
Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we obey the voice of the LORD our God.
Jeremiah 42:5-7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:6-8You can call yourself what you like but if you BOW DOWN and Submit to THE GOD you are in the arabic language a Muslim.” (unquote)
In respect of YHWH Elohim i do not wish to slam you or what you believe personally.
I am against ALL RELIGIONS in the world today. I have been removed from all religions. All i can say about myself is that i am an Yisra'elite Hebrew. When i say that i mean that i realize that wether i was grafted in or natural dosen't matter. I believe i am a desendant of Yoseph who was cast away by his brothers and held captive as a slave in Mytrrayim, and made a man of authority to Pharaoh because YHWH was with him. I believe that Yoseph was the MalekTzedek of his generation, the righteous son of Yisra'el who was called Ya'acob.YHWH chose Ya'cob to be an example, as He chose Isaac to be an example. All through the TORAH we can follow the lives of the people from Adam and Chaua. We can see by tthese examples who did and who did not walk in the will of YHWH and what happened to them who did and did not walk in the will of YHWH.
YHWH did not choose Yisra'el because they were more righteous than other people, but because the other people, namely Mytsrayim in this case was more evil because they worshipped “another elohim.” In Mystrayim they worshipped the “sun god.” A trinity or triune god, who was not YHWH. Mystrayim was a cruel master to Yisra'el and YHWH Elohim heard their “crying” just as He heard the tears of a woman called Hagar, weeping for her son.
YHWH gave His vow to Yisra'el at Mt. Siani. This is the Set-apart mountain where YHWH wrote the 10 words on two tablets of stone with His own finger. This is where He wrote again the 10 words on two tablets that Mosheh brought up, because the first set Mosheh smashed when he saw the children of Yisra'el worshipping YHWH as a golden calf, like they learned from the Mytsrayim's.
The TORAH was completed by the hand of Mosheh who was “hearing” what to write from YHWH. It is the “constitution” or the “ketubah” of a wedding that took place at Mt. Siani, between YHWH Elohim and Yisra'el. But Yisra'el was eventually “divorced” because she was an “adulterous bride.” She bowed the knee to the elohim of the gentiles and “forsook the TORAH covenant.”
Now without hope in the world, separated from her first love, Yisra'el mingled with the gentile/pagan/heathen/nations all around her where she had been exiled to. Just as was prophecied by those who knew YHWH and served Him in righteousness and truth. And this was wrongness in YHWH's sight.
YHWH gave Mosheh the Torah at Siani. It was the same word from the beginning of creation when Adam and Chua sinned and YHWH made the first sacrifice to teach them His Salvation, in that sin is the equivalent of separation from YHWH which is death, and that this one would come who would be perfect, whom the sins of the people would murder. But this one who was a perfect man without sin, also had to make a choice to serve YHWH and not HaSatan, and He did chose life, but in chosing life which is to do the will of YHWH and rely only on ELohim, this one was left to die in the Roman cross of Mytsrayim, the cross of “mithra” the sungod. And it symbolizes that when we worship other elohim, ones in which we have imagined in our own hearts, that this sin equal death to them who do it, and that “if we return to the Onw True ELohim” it is impossible according to whe Word and covenant YHWH made wih ALL mankind.
So it is the the perfect LAMB was slain reflecting Salvation from Bereshit (Genesis) or the beginning, and them who believe the Word, and believe that YAHUSHUA was the one sent by YHWH to “return us to Himself, will have a second chance, to be able to return as a new person, no longer considered “the adulterous bride” who was mingled in with Mytsrayim/Babylon/Roman Catholicisim/ or any other religion you can name, to return through a repentant heart, and through the immersion to our first love WHO IS YHWH ELohim.
We musr DIE to our own selfishness, and serve YHWH to be a part of His Kingdom. This can all be axplained in two words. Yiara'el and Hebrew.
Yisra'el meaning to “overcome WITH Elohim”
Hebrew meaning to “cross over” or return to ELohim YHWH, our Savior.Being a Hebrew Yisra'elite means that we no longer partake of the way that the gentiles worship. We no longer worship YHWH ELohim according to man's laws, but to YHWH's TORAH! We do His will, we become bond servants, or “a free people” who chose to srve YHWH and not the false elohim of the nations.
And now the most incredible thing was that YHWH made a promise to Abraham who is the forer
unner of our belief. YHWH told Abraham that he would become as numerous as the sands of the sea, and the stars in the heavens! YHWH said that Abraham would become many “GOYIM” or many Gentiles!Now we can see more clearly what it means when Scripture reveals that the end would not come until after the “fullness of the Gentiles be brought in.” And this is that YHWH Elohim is calling His children, from where ever He scattered the, who are mingled into every nation, every denomination, and every place on the whole earth. He is calling us to repent and return to HIM!
So as EliYAHhu was in His day and Yochanan the Immerser was in the days of YAHUSHUA HaMoshiach, I am today proclaiming to you all, “Come out of her and live, come out of Babylon!” Return to YHWH Elohim of Yisra'el, and be washed clean of your transgressions, in belief and repentance. Walk in the ways of YHWH and no other. Follow YAHUSHUA the Messiah to the narrow gate that leads to everlastinf life or you will be destroyed by yourselves.
Quote (Laurel @ April 28 2010,05:57) bodhitharta said, “Interesting post.
If you haven't read the entire Quran you would be prejudging its contents however it is in the Torah that if the Jews turn away from “God” what would be the consequences:
Ezekiel 4:11-13 (King James Version)
11Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
12And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
13And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
If you really understand the Torah you will understand the Quran. There is many such verses.
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:7-9Can you show me a single verse in the Torah that says Abraham practiced keeping the Sabbath? The Sabbath was not commanded to be kept the way it was with the Jews until Moses.
But the Quran says clearly:
O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #47)And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: “Enter the gate with humility”; and (once again) we commanded them: “Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath.” And we took from them a solemn covenant.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #154)The sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed (as to its observance); But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #124)And you are right about the Name of God referred to as Hashem because we are not to profane the name of God and Therefore it is Most proper to say ALLAH because ALLAH means THE GOD in the sense that there is NO OTHER GOD and NO ONE ELSE has a RIGHT to be GOD and hence in ARABIC there is no such plurality possible there is no allahs as in english “gods” are said and in Hebrew “Elohim” is misunderstood. So when saying ALLAH it is the Ultimate respect and reverence to THE GOD of ALL.
Everything is Good:
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:30-31And because all things are in accord to the Will of God even evil has its place or do you not understand:
Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we obey the voice of the LORD our God.
Jeremiah 42:5-7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:6-8You can call yourself what you like but if you BOW DOWN and Submit to THE GOD you are in the arabic language a Muslim.” (unquote)
In respect of YHWH Elohim i do not wish to slam you or what you believe personally.
I am against ALL RELIGIONS in the world today. I have been removed from all religions. All i can say about myself is that i am an Yisra'elite Hebrew. When i say that i mean that i realize that wether i was grafted in or natural dosen't matter. I believe i am a desendant of Yoseph who was cast away by his brothers and held captive as a slave in Mytrrayim, and made a man of authority to Pharaoh because YHWH was with him. I believe that Yoseph was the MalekTzedek of his generation, the righteous son of Yisra'el who was called Ya'acob.YHWH chose Ya'cob to be an example, as He chose Isaac to be an example. All through the TORAH we can follow the lives of the people from Adam and Chaua. We can see by tthese examples who did and who did not walk in the will of YHWH and what happened to them who did and did not walk in the will of YHWH.
YHWH did not choose Yisra'el because they were more righteous than other people, but because the other people, namely Mytsrayim in this case was more evil because they worshipped “another elohim.” In Mystrayim they worshipped the “sun god.” A trinity or triune god, who was not YHWH. Mystrayim was a cruel master to Yisra'el and YHWH Elohim heard their “crying” just as He heard the tears of a woman called Hagar, weeping for her son.
YHWH gave His vow to Yisra'el at Mt. Siani. This is the Set-apart mountain where YHWH wrote the 10 words on two tablets of stone with His own finger. This is where He wrote again the 10 words on two tablets that Mosheh brought up, because the first set Mosheh smashed when he saw the children of Yisra'el worshipping YHWH as a golden calf, like they learned from the Mytsrayim's.
The TORAH was completed by the hand of Mosheh who was “hearing” what to write from YHWH. It is the “constitution” or the “ketubah” of a wedding that took place at Mt. Siani, between YHWH Elohim and Yisra'el. But Yisra'el was eventually “divorced” because she was an “adulterous bride.” She bowed the knee to the elohim of the gentiles and “forsook the TORAH covenant.”
Now without hope in the world, separated from her first love, Yisra'el mingled with the gentile/pagan/heathen/nations all around her where she had been exiled to. Just as was prophecied by those who knew YHWH and served Him in righteousness and truth. And this was wrongness in YHWH's sight.
YHWH gave Mosheh the Torah at Siani. It was the same word from the beginning of creation when Adam and Chua sinned and YHWH made the first sacrifice to teach them His Salvation, in that sin is the equivalent of separation from YHWH which is death, and that this one would come who would be perfect, whom the sins of the people would murder. But this one who was a perfect man without sin, also had to make a choice to serve YHWH and not HaSatan, and He did chose life, but in chosing life which is to do the will of YHWH and rely only on ELohim, this one was left to die in the Roman cross of Mytsrayim, the cross of “mithra” the sungod. And it symbolizes that when we worship other elohim, ones in which we have imagined in our own hearts, that this sin equal death to them who do it, and that “if we return to the Onw True ELohim” it is impossible according to whe Word and covenant YHWH made wih ALL mankind.
So it is the the perfect LAMB was slain reflecting Salvation from Bereshit (Genesis) or the beginning, and them who believe the Word, and believe that YAHUSHUA was the one sent by YHWH to “return us to Himself, will have a second chance, to be able to return as a new person, no longer considered “the adulterous bride” who was mingled in with Mytsrayim/Babylon/Roman Catholicisim/ or any other religion you can name, to return through a repentant heart, and through the immersion to our first love WHO IS YHWH ELohim.
We musr DIE to our own selfishness, and serve YHWH to be a part of His Kingdom. This can all be axplained in two words. Yiara'el and Hebrew.
Yisra'el meaning to “overcome WITH Elohim”
Hebrew meaning to “cross over” or return to ELohim YHWH, our Savior.Being a Hebrew Yisra'elite means that we no longer partake of the way that the gentiles worship. We no longer worship YHWH ELohim according to man's laws, but to YHWH's T
ORAH! We do His will, we become bond servants, or “a free people” who chose to srve YHWH and not the false elohim of the nations.And now the most incredible thing was that YHWH made a promise to Abraham who is the forerunner of our belief. YHWH told Abraham that he would become as numerous as the sands of the sea, and the stars in the heavens! YHWH said that Abraham would become many “GOYIM” or many Gentiles!
Now we can see more clearly what it means when Scripture reveals that the end would not come until after the “fullness of the Gentiles be brought in.” And this is that YHWH Elohim is calling His children, from where ever He scattered the, who are mingled into every nation, every denomination, and every place on the whole earth. He is calling us to repent and return to HIM!
So as EliYAHhu was in His day and Yochanan the Immerser was in the days of YAHUSHUA HaMoshiach, I am today proclaiming to you all, “Come out of her and live, come out of Babylon!” Return to YHWH Elohim of Yisra'el, and be washed clean of your transgressions, in belief and repentance. Walk in the ways of YHWH and no other. Follow YAHUSHUA the Messiah to the narrow gate that leads to everlastinf life or you will be destroyed by yourselves.
I think I have said before, I have no problem with your posts they are quite plainly filled with strong faith and purpose in which I have no disagreement with.God Bless!
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45) Hi BD, satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?
Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
.
Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.
Hi BD,
Satan is the god of this world. The serpent already ruled by the time Adam arrived when the earth was formless and void.His rebellious domination has already been undermined and King Jesus has established God's kingdom.
He will return to rule and free earth from it's curse and restore it to it's glorious and beautiful design.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,07:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45) Hi BD, satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?
Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
.
Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.
Hi BD,
Satan is the god of this world. The serpent already ruled by the time Adam arrived when the earth was formless and void.His rebellious domination has already been undermined and King Jesus has established God's kingdom.
He will return to rule and free earth from it's curse and restore it to it's glorious and beautiful design.
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32Nick, do you believe Jesus?
Why would you say that Satan is your God? You do know that whoever is God of the world you live in is in-fact your God, right? So why dispute what Jesus has said?
In-fact where has Jesus ever called Satan a god?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,07:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 28 2010,04:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,18:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 27 2010,15:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2010,11:45) Hi BD, satan is in control of this current 'one'=34 world system; watch the video. (Eph.6:12)
Then you don't believe Jesus Christ:Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
John 12:30-32I told you that to study would be best. First of all notice that a Prince is not a King and certainly not a God and if you believe Jesus how could Satan be in control if he is cast out?
Because you haven't cast him out (of your life) yet.
Believe the Gospel (John 3:16), you can cast him out.
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Is Satan the god of this world? Yes or no?Don't try to manipulate our conversation you said Satan was the god of this world and I have shown you through the scriptures that it is not possible so either you believe Jesus is a liar or you believe Jesus who agrees with me about who is THE GOD of this world.
Hi BD,
Satan is the god of this world. The serpent already ruled by the time Adam arrived when the earth was formless and void.His rebellious domination has already been undermined and King Jesus has established God's kingdom.
He will return to rule and free earth from it's curse and restore it to it's glorious and beautiful design.
If the serpent ruled then why was he punished?You should really study and think before you post but instead you give Satan the Glory calling him a supreme being, calling Satan “God”
Hi BD,
Did you not know THE SERPENT OF OLD is a name for Satan?[rev]
You should not confuse him with his poor vessel.Hi BD,
Your nonsense about satan being called a god does not fit with the teaching of scripture quoted by Jesus that men are called gods.But then you are uselessly hoping to defeat the Spirit of God are you not?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,10:22) Hi BD,
Why should we believe God sent your false prophet?
He bore no good fruit.
Bringing Pure Monotheistic Worship of God to pagans and polytheists is hardly lacking in fruit.Is it fruitful that a man submit his wholeself to God?
Why do you mislead others saying things that not only are false but are knowingly false.
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