Why don't christians believe tha god sent muhammad

[karmarie]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2010,09:35)

Hi BD, Mental hospitals are full of folk who believe thay are Napoleon or a prophet sent by God.

So I wonder what they would think about Jesus or any of the Prophets of old today Nick. I read a Psyciatrists opinion on Jesus once and it was pretty insulting.

[Saga]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,15:08)

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 29 2010,14:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,13:26) Quote (942767 @ Jan. 29 2010,13:07) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Hi BD: Jesus is the head of the church at the right hand of God our Father, and without his death, burial and resurrection there is no resurrection from the dead. And since the teaching of the Quran denies that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, and because the Quran denies the death of Jesus by crucifixion, his burial and resurrection, Muhammad cannot have been sent by God. God could not have said one thing in the bible and another in the Quran, and that is why Christians cannot accept that Muhammad was a true prophet of God. Love in Christ, Marty Did God say in the Old Testament that Jesus would be the last prophet? Does the Old testament say that hrist would rise from the dead? Also did Jesus say in the gospels that the law was a curse or that the law would end? Paul said something different didn't he? In the Old testament or more precisely the Torah says that circumcision is a physical sign of the covenant of Abraham forever. Paul says it doesn't mean anything now isn't that completely opposite to what God Said? Forever doesn't mean until Paul comes does it? Is there also mention in the Torah about a crucified Messiah? Hi BD: We've been over all of these questions of yours before.  You wanted to know why Christians will not accept the prophethood of Muhammad, and I told you. Love in Christ, Marty Muslims accept Jesus as Messiah. What I want to know is where is it in scripture that there wil be no prophet after Jesus.

There were prophets before Jesus and there are prophets after I imagine. If you believe Jesus is the messiah I am glad for you. He is the light that will lead you to the Father, as no other prophet or disciple will do this but only the Son of God. Now if any prophet or disciple point's you into the direction of Christ.

God sent his “only” begotten son into the world, that we might live through him. —1 John 4:9

[karmarie]

Hi Saga. I hope Bod sees this post:)

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13)

Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood?

Probably for similar reasons that people do not believe that Ron Weinland is a prophet.

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13)

Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet?

Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.

Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.

Matthew 24:11
and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit.

1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Saga @ Mar. 21 2010,08:49)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,15:08) Quote (942767 @ Jan. 29 2010,14:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,13:26) Quote (942767 @ Jan. 29 2010,13:07) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Hi BD: Jesus is the head of the church at the right hand of God our Father, and without his death, burial and resurrection there is no resurrection from the dead. And since the teaching of the Quran denies that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, and because the Quran denies the death of Jesus by crucifixion, his burial and resurrection, Muhammad cannot have been sent by God. God could not have said one thing in the bible and another in the Quran, and that is why Christians cannot accept that Muhammad was a true prophet of God. Love in Christ, Marty Did God say in the Old Testament that Jesus would be the last prophet? Does the Old testament say that hrist would rise from the dead? Also did Jesus say in the gospels that the law was a curse or that the law would end? Paul said something different didn't he? In the Old testament or more precisely the Torah says that circumcision is a physical sign of the covenant of Abraham forever. Paul says it doesn't mean anything now isn't that completely opposite to what God Said? Forever doesn't mean until Paul comes does it? Is there also mention in the Torah about a crucified Messiah? Hi BD: We've been over all of these questions of yours before.  You wanted to know why Christians will not accept the prophethood of Muhammad, and I told you. Love in Christ, Marty Muslims accept Jesus as Messiah. What I want to know is where is it in scripture that there wil be no prophet after Jesus. There were prophets before Jesus and there are prophets after I imagine.  If you believe Jesus is the messiah I am glad for you.  He is the light that will lead you to the Father, as no other prophet or disciple will do this but only the Son of God.  Now if any prophet or disciple point's you into the direction of Christ. God sent his “only” begotten son into the world, that we might live through him. —1 John 4:9

Jesus said:

As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
John 9:4-6

Do you not know that God gives to whom he pleases?

Jesus points to God not to himself, so anyone who points you to God is aright

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ April 17 2010,12:01)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many. Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit. 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Nice try T8 but you did a slick manuever saying

“It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.”

Where is that written?

“Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.“

Compare that to what you wrote, Did Muhammad come in the name of Jesus or did he declare himself as “Christ”? NO

Yes, you know them by their FRUIT, Over 1 billion people who Believe that there is Only One God by this one Prophet spreading the message this when the Message of Monotheism was being plundered by the Doctrine of trinity i.e. God is 3 in 1

Islam has the Most pure Monotheists in the world bar none, most Christians or the greater majority believe that Jesus is God or equal to God. So yes, by the fruits they shall be known.

Look inside many Christian churches and then go inside a mosque and see who are worshiping minus Idolatry.

I still don't find a problem with the christians though because they were told to only abstain from the essentials

But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Acts 15:19-21

The Fact is Islam establishes the commands given to Noah and all mankind.

A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[16] and psychiatric hospital,[17] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[16] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[18]

The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[19] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[20] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd (“license to teach and issue legal opinions”) in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[21]

How much fruit do you want me to mention?

Early forms of proto-capitalism and free markets were present in the Caliphate,[51] where an early market economy and early form of merchant capitalism was developed between the 8th–12th centuries, which some refer to as “Islamic capitalism”.[52] A vigorous monetary economy was created on the basis of the expanding levels of circulation of a stable high-value currency (the dinar) and the integration of monetary areas that were previously independent. Innovative new business techniques and forms of business organisation were introduced by economists, merchants and traders during this time. Such innovations included early contracts, bills of exchange, long-distance international trade, early forms of partnership (mufawada) such as limited partnerships (mudaraba), and early forms of credit, debt, profit, loss, capital (al-mal), capital accumulation (nama al-mal),[49] circulating capital, capital expenditure, revenue, cheques, promissory notes,[53] trusts (waqf), savings accounts, transactional accounts, pawning, loaning, exchange rates, bankers, money changers, ledgers, deposits, assignments, the double-entry bookkeeping system,[54] and lawsuits.[32] Organizational enterprises similar to corporations independent from the state also existed in the medieval Islamic world.[55][56] Many of these early proto-capitalist concepts were adopted and further advanced in medieval Europe from the 13th century onwards.[49]

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,16:01)

Quote (t8 @ April 17 2010,12:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many. Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit. 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Nice try T8 but you did a slick manuever saying “It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.” Where is that written? “Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.“ Compare that to what you wrote, Did Muhammad come in the name of Jesus or did he declare himself as “Christ”? NO Yes, you know them by their FRUIT, Over 1 billion people who Believe that there is Only One God by this one Prophet spreading the message this when the Message of Monotheism was being plundered by the Doctrine of trinity i.e. God is 3 in 1 Islam has the Most pure Monotheists in the world bar none, most Christians or the greater majority believe that Jesus is God or equal to God. So yes, by the fruits they shall be known. Look inside many Christian churches and then go inside a mosque and see who are worshiping minus Idolatry. I still don't find a problem with the christians though because they were told to only abstain from the essentials But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Acts 15:19-21 The Fact is Islam establishes the commands given to Noah and all mankind. A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[16] and psychiatric hospital,[17] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[16] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[18] The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[19] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[20] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd (“license to teach and issue legal opinions”) in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[21] How much fruit do you want me to mention? Early forms of proto-capitalism and free markets were present in the Caliphate,[51] where an early market economy and early form of merchant capitalism was developed between the 8th–12th centuries, which some refer to as “Islamic capitalism”.[52] A vigorous monetary economy was created on the basis of the expanding levels of circulation of a stable high-value currency (the dinar) and the integration of monetary areas that were previously independent. Innovative new business techniques and forms of business organisation were introduced by economists, merchants and traders during this time. Such innovations included early contracts, bills of exchange, long-distance international trade, early forms of partnership (mufawada) such as limited partnerships (mudaraba), and early forms of credit, debt, profit, loss, capital (al-mal), capital accumulation (nama al-mal),[49] circulating capital, capital expenditure, revenue, cheques, promissory notes,[53] trusts (waqf), savings accounts, transactional accounts, pawning, loaning, exchange rates, bankers, money changers, ledgers, deposits, assignments, the double-entry bookkeeping system,[54] and lawsuits.[32] Organizational enterprises similar to corporations independent from the state also existed in the medieval Islamic world.[55][56] Many of these early proto-capitalist concepts were adopted and further advanced in medieval Europe from the 13th century onwards.[49]

                      [74+74+74=222]
 'quran is lord Muhammad'=222  

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that “Jesus”=74 is the [Messiah=74]?
                 He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the [God Son=74].
                 (Who is THE FALSE PROPHET?) 222+222+222=666 (Rev.13:18)

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[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,16:46)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,16:01) Quote (t8 @ April 17 2010,12:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many. Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit. 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Nice try T8 but you did a slick manuever saying “It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.” Where is that written? “Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.“ Compare that to what you wrote, Did Muhammad come in the name of Jesus or did he declare himself as “Christ”? NO Yes, you know them by their FRUIT, Over 1 billion people who Believe that there is Only One God by this one Prophet spreading the message this when the Message of Monotheism was being plundered by the Doctrine of trinity i.e. God is 3 in 1 Islam has the Most pure Monotheists in the world bar none, most Christians or the greater majority believe that Jesus is God or equal to God. So yes, by the fruits they shall be known. Look inside many Christian churches and then go inside a mosque and see who are worshiping minus Idolatry. I still don't find a problem with the christians though because they were told to only abstain from the essentials But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Acts 15:19-21 The Fact is Islam establishes the commands given to Noah and all mankind. A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[16] and psychiatric hospital,[17] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[16] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[18] The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[19] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[20] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd (“license to teach and issue legal opinions”) in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[21] How much fruit do you want me to mention? Early forms of proto-capitalism and free markets were present in the Caliphate,[51] where an early market economy and early form of merchant capitalism was developed between the 8th–12th centuries, which some refer to as “Islamic capitalism”.[52] A vigorous monetary economy was created on the basis of the expanding levels of circulation of a stable high-value currency (the dinar) and the integration of monetary areas that were previously independent. Innovative new business techniques and forms of business organisation were introduced by economists, merchants and traders during this time. Such innovations included early contracts, bills of exchange, long-distance international trade, early forms of partnership (mufawada) such as limited partnerships (mudaraba), and early forms of credit, debt, profit, loss, capital (al-mal), capital accumulation (nama al-mal),[49] circulating capital, capital expenditure, revenue, cheques, promissory notes,[53] trusts (waqf), savings accounts, transactional accounts, pawning, loaning, exchange rates, bankers, money changers, ledgers, deposits, assignments, the double-entry bookkeeping system,[54] and lawsuits.[32] Organizational enterprises similar to corporations independent from the state also existed in the medieval Islamic world.[55][56] Many of these early proto-capitalist concepts were adopted and further advanced in medieval Europe from the 13th century onwards.[49]                       [74+74+74=222]  'quran is lord Muhammad'=222   1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that “Jesus”=74 is the [Messiah=74]?                  He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the [God Son=74].                  (Who is THE FALSE PROPHET?) 222+222+222=666 (Rev.13:18) .

Isn't that 1 John 2:22?

Why leave out the 1?

John 2:22 (King James Version)

When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

What's wrong with this verse being 2:22?

Jesus cross The Key =222

God's son= 93

Can you show me is scripture the term “God son? Of course not why speak falsely? Are you a prophet?

[bodhitharta]

He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the son=467

[Proclaimer]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,15:46)

Jesus points to God not to himself, so anyone who points you to God is aright

Except those who do that to get your attention, then draw men to themselves.

Acts 20:30
Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ April 18 2010,10:34)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,15:46) Jesus points to God not to himself, so anyone who points you to God is aright Except those who do that to get your attention, then draw men to themselves. Acts 20:30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

Yes, that is correct but who has done that?

Muhammad certainly has never done that, he is hardly mentioned at all in the Quran.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 18 2010,08:48)

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,16:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,16:01) Quote (t8 @ April 17 2010,12:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many. Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit. 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Nice try T8 but you did a slick manuever saying “It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.” Where is that written? “Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.“ Compare that to what you wrote, Did Muhammad come in the name of Jesus or did he declare himself as “Christ”? NO Yes, you know them by their FRUIT, Over 1 billion people who Believe that there is Only One God by this one Prophet spreading the message this when the Message of Monotheism was being plundered by the Doctrine of trinity i.e. God is 3 in 1 Islam has the Most pure Monotheists in the world bar none, most Christians or the greater majority believe that Jesus is God or equal to God. So yes, by the fruits they shall be known. Look inside many Christian churches and then go inside a mosque and see who are worshiping minus Idolatry. I still don't find a problem with the christians though because they were told to only abstain from the essentials But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Acts 15:19-21 The Fact is Islam establishes the commands given to Noah and all mankind. A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[16] and psychiatric hospital,[17] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[16] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[18] The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[19] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[20] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd (“license to teach and issue legal opinions”) in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[21] How much fruit do you want me to mention? Early forms of proto-capitalism and free markets were present in the Caliphate,[51] where an early market economy and early form of merchant capitalism was developed between the 8th–12th centuries, which some refer to as “Islamic capitalism”.[52] A vigorous monetary economy was created on the basis of the expanding levels of circulation of a stable high-value currency (the dinar) and the integration of monetary areas that were previously independent. Innovative new business techniques and forms of business organisation were introduced by economists, merchants and traders during this time. Such innovations included early contracts, bills of exchange, long-distance international trade, early forms of partnership (mufawada) such as limited partnerships (mudaraba), and early forms of credit, debt, profit, loss, capital (al-mal), capital accumulation (nama al-mal),[49] circulating capital, capital expenditure, revenue, cheques, promissory notes,[53] trusts (waqf), savings accounts, transactional accounts, pawning, loaning, exchange rates, bankers, money changers, ledgers, deposits, assignments, the double-entry bookkeeping system,[54] and lawsuits.[32] Organizational enterprises similar to corporations independent from the state also existed in the medieval Islamic world.[55][56] Many of these early proto-capitalist concepts were adopted and further advanced in medieval Europe from the 13th century onwards.[49]                       [74+74+74=222]  'quran is lord Muhammad'=222   1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that “Jesus”=74 is the [Messiah=74]?                  He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the [God Son=74].                  (Who is THE FALSE PROPHET?) 222+222+222=666 (Rev.13:18) . Isn't that 1 John 2:22? Why leave out the 1? John 2:22 (King James Version) When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. What's wrong with this verse being 2:22? Jesus cross The Key =222 God's son= 93 Can you show me is scripture the term “God son? Of course not why speak falsely? Are you a prophet?

Hi BD,

John 2:22 is a Scripture that gets to the heart of this issue as well, (74+74+74=222)
(Lucifer=74 from the quran, 'Muhammad'=74, and 'you'(Anana Bodhitharta) teach against the GOSPEL=74 of CHRIST! (Gal.1:8-9)

                       “The Passover”=148
                      [74+74+74+74=148]

The “Gospel”=74 is the death (on the “Cross”=74), burial and resurrection of the “Messiah=74, Jesus=74!

Mark 8:31 And he(Jesus) began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things,
and be rejected of the elders, and
of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ April 18 2010,16:20)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 18 2010,08:48) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,16:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,16:01) Quote (t8 @ April 17 2010,12:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many. Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit. 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Nice try T8 but you did a slick manuever saying “It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.” Where is that written? “Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.“ Compare that to what you wrote, Did Muhammad come in the name of Jesus or did he declare himself as “Christ”? NO Yes, you know them by their FRUIT, Over 1 billion people who Believe that there is Only One God by this one Prophet spreading the message this when the Message of Monotheism was being plundered by the Doctrine of trinity i.e. God is 3 in 1 Islam has the Most pure Monotheists in the world bar none, most Christians or the greater majority believe that Jesus is God or equal to God. So yes, by the fruits they shall be known. Look inside many Christian churches and then go inside a mosque and see who are worshiping minus Idolatry. I still don't find a problem with the christians though because they were told to only abstain from the essentials But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Acts 15:19-21 The Fact is Islam establishes the commands given to Noah and all mankind. A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[16] and psychiatric hospital,[17] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[16] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[18] The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[19] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[20] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd (“license to teach and issue legal opinions”) in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[21] How much fruit do you want me to mention? Early forms of proto-capitalism and free markets were present in the Caliphate,[51] where an early market economy and early form of merchant capitalism was developed between the 8th–12th centuries, which some refer to as “Islamic capitalism”.[52] A vigorous monetary economy was created on the basis of the expanding levels of circulation of a stable high-value currency (the dinar) and the integration of monetary areas that were previously independent. Innovative new business techniques and forms of business organisation were introduced by economists, merchants and traders during this time. Such innovations included early contracts, bills of exchange, long-distance international trade, early forms of partnership (mufawada) such as limited partnerships (mudaraba), and early forms of credit, debt, profit, loss, capital (al-mal), capital accumulation (nama al-mal),[49] circulating capital, capital expenditure, revenue, cheques, promissory notes,[53] trusts (waqf), savings accounts, transactional accounts, pawning, loaning, exchange rates, bankers, money changers, ledgers, deposits, assignments, the double-entry bookkeeping system,[54] and lawsuits.[32] Organizational enterprises similar to corporations independent from the state also existed in the medieval Islamic world.[55][56] Many of these early proto-capitalist concepts were adopted and further advanced in medieval Europe from the 13th century onwards.[49]                       [74+74+74=222]  'quran is lord Muhammad'=222   1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that “Jesus”=74 is the [Messiah=74]?                  He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the [God Son=74].                  (Who is THE FALSE PROPHET?) 222+222+222=666 (Rev.13:18) . Isn't that 1 John 2:22? Why leave out the 1? John 2:22 (King James Version) When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. What's wrong with this verse being 2:22? Jesus cross The Key =222 God's son= 93 Can you show me is scripture the term “God son? Of course not why speak falsely? Are you a prophet? Hi BD, John 2:22 is a Scripture that gets to the heart of this issue as well, (74+74+74=222) (Lucifer=74 from the quran, 'Muhammad'=74, and 'you'(Anana Bodhitharta) teach against the GOSPEL=74 of CHRIST! (Gal.1:8-9)                        “The Passover”=148                       [74+74+74+74=148] The “Gospel”=74 is the death (on the “Cross”=74), burial and resurrection of the “Messiah=74, Jesus=74! Mark 8:31 And he(Jesus) began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

So you don't like to say “The Cross” becuase it= 107
Same as “The Gospel=107” and “The Messiah”=107 But you do say “The Key” but why not apply the same rules and say “Key”= 41.

107=Hidden meaning
41=Help

Wait a minute! “Help hidden meaning”=148

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 18 2010,21:17)

Quote (Ed J @ April 18 2010,16:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 18 2010,08:48) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,16:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2010,16:01) Quote (t8 @ April 17 2010,12:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:13) Why is it so important for Christians to deny Muhammad Prophethood? Is there any scripture in the Bible that says Christ is the Final Prophet? Believers have been told that many prophets will arise and deceive many. It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many. Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. Matthew 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. So on the outset, it is likely that any single person who calls himself a prophet, is likely to be a false one as there will be many. Of course there are true prophets and we know them by their fruit. 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Nice try T8 but you did a slick manuever saying “It appears that even some would say that Jesus was the Christ and still deceive many.” Where is that written? “Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.“ Compare that to what you wrote, Did Muhammad come in the name of Jesus or did he declare himself as “Christ”? NO Yes, you know them by their FRUIT, Over 1 billion people who Believe that there is Only One God by this one Prophet spreading the message this when the Message of Monotheism was being plundered by the Doctrine of trinity i.e. God is 3 in 1 Islam has the Most pure Monotheists in the world bar none, most Christians or the greater majority believe that Jesus is God or equal to God. So yes, by the fruits they shall be known. Look inside many Christian churches and then go inside a mosque and see who are worshiping minus Idolatry. I still don't find a problem with the christians though because they were told to only abstain from the essentials But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Acts 15:19-21 The Fact is Islam establishes the commands given to Noah and all mankind. A number of important educational and scientific institutions previously unknown in the ancient world have their origins in the early Islamic world, with the most notable examples being: the public hospital (which replaced healing temples and sleep temples)[16] and psychiatric hospital,[17] the public library and lending library, the academic degree-granting university, and the astronomical observatory as a research institute[16] (as opposed to a private observation post as was the case in ancient times).[18] The first universities which issued diplomas were the Bimaristan medical university-hospitals of the medieval Islamic world, where medical diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be practicing doctors of medicine from the 9th century.[19] The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest degree-granting university in the world with its founding in 859 CE.[20] Al-Azhar University, founded in Cairo, Egypt in the 975 CE, offered a variety of academic degrees, including postgraduate degrees, and is often considered the first full-fledged university. The origins of the doctorate also dates back to the ijazat attadris wa 'l-ifttd (“license to teach and issue legal opinions”) in the medieval Madrasahs which taught Islamic law.[21] How much fruit do you want me to mention? Early forms of proto-capitalism and free markets were present in the Caliphate,[51] where an early market economy and early form of merchant capitalism was developed between the 8th–12th centuries, which some refer to as “Islamic capitalism”.[52] A vigorous monetary economy was created on the basis of the expanding levels of circulation of a stable high-value currency (the dinar) and the integration of monetary areas that were previously independent. Innovative new business techniques and forms of business organisation were introduced by economists, merchants and traders during this time. Such innovations included early contracts, bills of exchange, long-distance international trade, early forms of partnership (mufawada) such as limited partnerships (mudaraba), and early forms of credit, debt, profit, loss, capital (al-mal), capital accumulation (nama al-mal),[49] circulating capital, capital expenditure, revenue, cheques, promissory notes,[53] trusts (waqf), savings accounts, transactional accounts, pawning, loaning, exchange rates, bankers, money changers, ledgers, deposits, assignments, the double-entry bookkeeping system,[54] and lawsuits.[32] Organizational enterprises similar to corporations independent from the state also existed in the medieval Islamic world.[55][56] Many of these early proto-capitalist concepts were adopted and further advanced in medieval Europe from the 13th century onwards.[49]                       [74+74+74=222]  'quran is lord Muhammad'=222   1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that “Jesus”=74 is the [Messiah=74]?                  He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the [God Son=74].                  (Who is THE FALSE PROPHET?) 222+222+222=666 (Rev.13:18) . Isn't that 1 John 2:22? Why leave out the 1? John 2:22 (King James Version) When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. What's wrong with this verse being 2:22? Jesus cross The Key =222 God's son= 93 Can you show me is scripture the term “God son? Of course not why speak falsely? Are you a prophet? Hi BD, John 2:22 is a Scripture that gets to the heart of this issue as well, (74+74+74=222) (Lucifer=74 from the quran, 'Muhammad'=74, and 'you'(A nana Bodhitharta) teach against the GOSPEL=74 of CHRIST! (Gal.1:8-9)                        “The Passover”=148                       [74+74+74+74=148] The “Gospel”=74 is the death (on the “Cross”=74), burial and resurrection of the “Messiah=74, Jesus=74! Mark 8:31 And he(Jesus) began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org So you don't like to say “The Cross” becuase it= 107 Same as “The Gospel=107” and “The Messiah”=107 But you do say “The Key”  but why not apply the same rules and say “Key”= 41. 107=Hidden meaning 41=Help Wait a minute! “Help hidden meaning”=148

Distractions, false truth's and confusion…
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

'Babylon'=71(meaning confusion) and 'quran'=71; both only offer confusion! (Gal.1:8-9 / 2Cor.11:13-15)

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[bodhitharta]

The Holy Bible=123 yet you keep calling it “bible” when “Bible” can pertain to any collection of writings.

“The Quran” is never called Quran it is called Al-Quran or The Glorious Quran. You have to stop doing convenient calculations
and work on presenting The Truth with Confidence.

Hiding the facts won't help you understand the Will of God.

[karmarie]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 20 2010,22:42)

“The Quran” is never called Quran it is called Al-Quran or The Glorious Quran. You have to stop doing convenient calculations and work on presenting The Truth with Confidence. Hiding the facts won't help you understand the Will of God.

THE GLORIOUS QURAN  = 220
STARE INTO THE ABYSS  =220
LOVE WILL SAVE THE DAY = 220
PEACE COMES FROM WITHIN =220

[karmarie]

COMPARISON = 123
THE HOLY BIBLE = 123
PLAIN SAILING = 123
LORD JESUS = 123

[karmarie]

Nah sorry I just couldnt help it=P

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 20 2010,20:42)

The Holy Bible=123 yet you keep calling it “bible” when “Bible” can pertain to any collection of writings. “The Quran” is never called Quran it is called Al-Quran or The Glorious Quran. You have to stop doing convenient calculations and work on presenting The Truth with Confidence. Hiding the facts won't help you understand the Will of God.

Nothing but continuous distractions from you, huh?

“The Bible”=63 because it's the word of “YHVH”=63!
The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63.

'quran book'=114 (Click Here)
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