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Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 01 2010,11:42) At least though Ed I saw you stood by him for a while anyway.
Hi Karmarie,I still stand for BD, it is his god 'satan' that I reject!
Prob.3:33 The 'curse'=66 of the LORD is in the house of the wicked:
but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
BD knows what this means, but will not turn away from the 'curse'.
His “soul” is in his own hands, my hands are clean.Ed J
Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 01 2010,11:40) Well I think it would of been fairer if Bod had still been allowed in the believers place, but rather that quoting from the Quran should of been stopped. Thrown out for believing in another perception of Jesus
-And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
-Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
To close the door to him was sad and all it has done for me is prove something I always knew anyway.
No wonder he has stood by his faith even more.
Hi Karmarie,To not accept the “HolySpirit” as God is the 'only' unforgivable sin. (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32)
So as long as BD continues to reject Jesus' Father, there can be NO forgiveness!
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,09:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,09:20) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,09:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,05:39) ED, Torah believing Jews are not Zionists
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2009,13:55) I know that is why (a sign of maturity) you have asked for everybody’s input in these matters,
with everybody’s input here I know you will be able to know what our “GOD” (YHVH) wants you to do.
I believe you will make the right choice, because HE works inside you as well as inside all us!
The right choice has indeed been made! You are no longer allowed to 'pollute'
the believers section with all your satanic propaganda!
Are you saying that Jews against Zionism are incorrect about their own religion and history?Did you even go to any of the links Karmarie provided?
Hi BD,Not at all interested in satanic propaganda!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.You gave up on me and you having a bible study together.
In it you could have offered your views along with “One Question”.
It's to bad, because you might have learned something about God.Ed J
ED,You did not want to study the bible you wanted to study NUMBERS and even when studying NUMBERS you didn't want to be honest with them either.
The Quran is The Word of God and you deny this very basic fact.
What can you teach me about God when you believe in gods? Absolutely nothing first give up the very idea of gods and then talk to me.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,14:23) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,09:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,09:20) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,09:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,05:39) ED, Torah believing Jews are not Zionists
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2009,13:55) I know that is why (a sign of maturity) you have asked for everybody’s input in these matters,
with everybody’s input here I know you will be able to know what our “GOD” (YHVH) wants you to do.
I believe you will make the right choice, because HE works inside you as well as inside all us!
The right choice has indeed been made! You are no longer allowed to 'pollute'
the believers section with all your satanic propaganda!
Are you saying that Jews against Zionism are incorrect about their own religion and history?Did you even go to any of the links Karmarie provided?
Hi BD,Not at all interested in satanic propaganda!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.You gave up on me and you having a bible study together.
In it you could have offered your views along with “One Question”.
It's to bad, because you might have learned something about God.Ed J
ED,You did not want to study the bible
Why do you lie, here is the quote…Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2010,15:01) Hi BD, If you are “truly” “serious” about this Bible study, than only ask me ONE question at a time; OK?
If your goal is to try to 'trick' me into helping support your faulty beliefs, then you 'are' wasting our time?
Because I will NOT give you information that can be used against me!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22) First question: How are my beliefs faulty?
We could have discussed “One” point at a time; you may have actually learned something about God!
Only one question and then you called off the bible study with this next satanic propaganda filled Post.
Resorting to trying to prove your faulty assertions instead of 'you' learning about God in a “Bible Study”.Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 16 2010,06:27) ED, You don't believe everything I believe nor do I believe everything you believe, but I do believe you love God
and that is enough for me.You like to pray against me and others but I will only
pray for you, I pray not that you listen to me but that you stay focused on God.I know you have prayed against me but ask yourself is
that good or evil? Your cursing me will be a blessing to me
That I can assure you.You don't own God and yet you keep saying that God is “your” God as opposed to the God of ALL. You said you were seriously thinking about giving up on me, good thing your not God. The fact is I have already submitted to God in peace(Islam) and God has already accepted me
and has shown me GREAT LOVE now should I trust you or GOD.You say my soul is at risk, is your soul at risk?
Jesus said:
Only those who endure to the end will be saved
God willing, I will endure
As far as you being a teacher to anyone, A display of numbers is not instructing anyone about anything, I haven't witnessed you teach anyone about Love, Devotion, Compassion, Mercy or anything that could assist them in their Spiritual Journey.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3You see ED God is not a number and cannot be measured by such either. If you have discovered a code and it works to convince you of God I say “Amen” but that additional proof of God existing does not disprove all the other Codes, Holy books, personal experiences…etc of others.
God can be found in too many ways to count
I'm simply glad you found one way but now you need to see ONE GOD and that's the most important number you will ever discover.
Peace be upon you
Rv:22:15: For without(outside of “HolyCity”: Rev.21:2-3) are dogs, and sorcerers, and
whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Rev.21:8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and
whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part
in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,15:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,14:23) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,09:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,09:20) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,09:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,05:39) ED, Torah believing Jews are not Zionists
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2009,13:55) I know that is why (a sign of maturity) you have asked for everybody’s input in these matters,
with everybody’s input here I know you will be able to know what our “GOD” (YHVH) wants you to do.
I believe you will make the right choice, because HE works inside you as well as inside all us!
The right choice has indeed been made! You are no longer allowed to 'pollute'
the believers section with all your satanic propaganda!
Are you saying that Jews against Zionism are incorrect about their own religion and history?Did you even go to any of the links Karmarie provided?
Hi BD,Not at all interested in satanic propaganda!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.You gave up on me and you having a bible study together.
In it you could have offered your views along with “One Question”.
It's to bad, because you might have learned something about God.Ed J
ED,You did not want to study the bible
Why do you lie, here is the quote…Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2010,15:01) Hi BD, If you are “truly” “serious” about this Bible study, than only ask me ONE question at a time; OK?
If your goal is to try to 'trick' me into helping support your faulty beliefs, then you 'are' wasting our time?
Because I will NOT give you information that can be used against me!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22) First question: How are my beliefs faulty?
We could have discussed “One” point at a time; you may have actually learned something about God!
Only one question and then you called off the bible study with this next satanic propaganda filled Post.
Resorting to trying to prove your faulty assertions instead of 'you' learning about God in a “Bible Study”.Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 16 2010,06:27) ED, You don't believe everything I believe nor do I believe everything you believe, but I do believe you love God
and that is enough for me.You like to pray against me and others but I will only
pray for you, I pray not that you listen to me but that you stay focused on God.I know you have prayed against me but ask yourself is
that good or evil? Your cursing me will be a blessing to me
That I can assure you.You don't own God and yet you keep saying that God is “your” God as opposed to the God of ALL. You said you were seriously thinking about giving up on me, good thing your not God. The fact is I have already submitted to God in peace(Islam) and God has already accepted me
and has shown me GREAT LOVE now should I trust you or GOD.You say my soul is at risk, is your soul at risk?
Jesus said:
Only those who endure to the end will be saved
God willing, I will endure
As far as you being a teacher to anyone, A display of numbers is not instructing anyone about anything, I haven't witnessed you teach anyone about Love, Devotion, Compassion, Mercy or anything that could assist them in their Spiritual Journey.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3You see ED God is not a number and cannot be measured by such either. If you have discovered a code and it works to convince you of God I say “Amen” but that additional proof of God existing does not disprove all the other Codes, Holy books, personal experiences…etc of others.
God can be found in too many ways to count
I'm simply glad you found one way but now you need to see ONE GOD and that's the most important number you will ever discover.
Peace be upon you
Rv:22:15: For without(outside of “HolyCity”: Rev.21:2-3) are dogs, and sorcerers, and
whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Rev.21:8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and
whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part
in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
ED,I didn't need for you to teach me the Bible, I have studied the Bible for over 25 years, I didn't need for you to teach me about God because God has revealed Himself to me Himself.
Once you really witness the reality of God you will never be confused about “gods” again. You will no that there is no god but GOD, there was none formed before HIM nor any formed after HIM.
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isaiah 43:9-11lose your polytheistic thinking! Come let me teach you the ways of GOD
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,18:34) lose your polytheistic thinking!
2Timothy 3:3-5…trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those
that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2010,15:01) Hi BD, If you are “truly” “serious” about this Bible study, than only ask me ONE question at a time; OK?
If your goal is to try to 'trick' me into helping support your faulty beliefs, then you 'are' wasting our time?
Because I will NOT give you information that can be used against me!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22) First question: How are my beliefs faulty?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,14:23)
ED,You did not want to study the bible
This is why I have turned away from BD Karmarie,
BD is a Liar, a trucebreaker, a false accuser
and the list goes on and on. he MUST therefore “Repent”!Luke 13:5-9 …except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted
in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years
I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down;
why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord,
let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:
And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.Ed, that is what I hate to see, people turning their backs on people.
Bod cant speak to all of you guys, a walls been put up.
Its wrong.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2010,04:43) In Islam the head and the heart become one because both are given to ALLAH as it is the greatest commandment to love God with ALL of your HEART, ALL of your SOUL and ALL of your MIND. There is no confusion.
Christians cannot agree on the nature of God, the number of persons of God, the relations of God…etc
How can you give ALL to God when the belief is so fractured?
Even when they talk to each other it is difficult because someone will be talking to you about God and suddenly you realize they are talking about Jesus calling him “God”
There is none of this confusion in Islam.
BD, you cannot hide behind Christians who differ over the nature of God. You know that if the scriptures are read correctly then there is no contradiction in the bible. If you understand that God is the Father, then there is no contradiction is there? So the way that men act should have no bearing on the validity of scripture.I do not say that Islam is wrong because you have Shiite and Sunni who disagree, (same argument you make against Christianity) but because the Koran teaches that God doesn't have a son.
At least give a good reason and not one that your own religion is guilty of too.
Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 01 2010,21:14) Ed, that is what I hate to see, people turning their backs on people. Bod cant speak to all of you guys, a walls been put up.
Its wrong.
KM, I do not see that BD is being rejected himself. What I see is this.He is here to spread Islam. People are not rejecting him, but that which he teaches and Mohammed whom he follows. If you feel sorry for him, then feel free to become a Muslim and support him. It is your life after all. But you cannot expect others to support what they believe is wrong.
True love never encourages a person into deception or further into deception. There is a reason why the bible says what it says about those who preach another gospel and another Jesus.
We are even warned that many false prophets will arise and deceive many. This means that most who call themselves prophets are false. A true prophet would never disagree with the son of God because a true prophet has Jesus as his head and most who call themselves prophets actually draw men away from Christ.
If you really love God, then you will love his image who is our head. If you love his image, then you will love the truth as he is the truth. If you love the truth, then you will abhor lies and will not follow those who teach lies.
In other words, if you are a sheep you will follow the shepherd. If you are a goat you will go your own way.
Hi t8, Well im not a Goat because the only reason iv ever rejected becoming a Muslim is because of the fact I kNOW Jesus is the Son of God and not just another Prophet who is equal with Mohammad etc, I know there is no name here higher than Jesus (Yahshua) and I know that Yahshua means God Saves, and the errors I see in Islam, I can see. This is what I want Them to see. Its just really hard when some people say it is a differnt God they worship, this I dont believe at all. I KNOW its not a different God, iv personally experienced it, and I believe that is the main error people have in reaching out to these Millions of people, and I do believe Jesus is working with them (in dreams and visions) because of these errors, and because of the invasions, killing and oppression they have to endure from the West -under the 'false banner' of Christianity. Its sad and completly unfair. How would Jesus feel?
I can understand what your saying, but I see it diffently, someones intent may be to spread (say Islam or Cathlocism) , but I see that as an opportunity instead to help them. To accept each others differences. Thats just my opinion though.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 02 2010,00:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2010,04:43) In Islam the head and the heart become one because both are given to ALLAH as it is the greatest commandment to love God with ALL of your HEART, ALL of your SOUL and ALL of your MIND. There is no confusion.
Christians cannot agree on the nature of God, the number of persons of God, the relations of God…etc
How can you give ALL to God when the belief is so fractured?
Even when they talk to each other it is difficult because someone will be talking to you about God and suddenly you realize they are talking about Jesus calling him “God”
There is none of this confusion in Islam.
BD, you cannot hide behind Christians who differ over the nature of God. You know that if the scriptures are read correctly then there is no contradiction in the bible. If you understand that God is the Father, then there is no contradiction is there? So the way that men act should have no bearing on the validity of scripture.I do not say that Islam is wrong because you have Shiite and Sunni who disagree, (same argument you make against Christianity) but because the Koran teaches that God doesn't have a son.
At least give a good reason and not one that your own religion is guilty of too.
Shiite and Sunni do not have any disagreement of the nature of God or His prophets.Islam does not lead anyone away from Christ, that's just simply not true at all.
Actually it clears Jesus of False charges of those who call themselves trinitarians. You already know they call Jesus “God” and you already know that many worship mary as The Mother of God which would also make her some sort of god. The Quran clears Jesus of such charges against him.
Also, you still seem to not know what “son” means and keep taking the position of those who believed in the Greek and Roman pantheon. Why believe what pagans believed, why believe God is like a person who marries and has children who are also gods?
Do you believe in Jupiter, Zeus. Diana the Goddess…etc.
You wish to humanize God and so the Quran simply clarified that God is not Human, has no Consort or wives and has no children.
All to God are servants and to whom is righteous He is as if He were a Father to them.
Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 02 2010,07:38) I can understand what your saying, but I see it diffently, someones intent may be to spread (say Islam or Cathlocism) , but I see that as an opportunity instead to help them. To accept each others differences. Thats just my opinion though.
Can I delete that post? I kind of disagree with what I said.Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2010,09:56) God is not Human, has no Consort or wives and has no children. All to God are servants and to whom is righteous He is as if He were a Father to them.
BD spews Lies, Lies, and more Lies.Gal.4:6-8 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son
into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant,
but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Howbeit then,
when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2010,09:56) Shiite and Sunni do not have any disagreement of the nature of God or His prophets.
So, despite the obvious religious classification under which each stands, they slaughter one another for no reason at all?Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,16:42) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2010,09:56) God is not Human, has no Consort or wives and has no children. All to God are servants and to whom is righteous He is as if He were a Father to them.
BD spews Lies, Lies, and more Lies.Gal.4:6-8 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son
into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant,
but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Howbeit then,
when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
Wow! the same person who wrote that wrote this:Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
Titus 1:1-3Why is Paul not calling himself “son”? He rightfully calls himself a servant of God, like I said
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Why is james not calling himself “son”?
And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
Ezekiel 34:23-25Why is God calling David his servant?
Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
Daniel 9:10-12Why do you not want to be a servant of God?
I am a servant of God and I love serving God when you serve God fully and submit it is like you have become His son
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans 8:13-15But how can you be a son without submitting to God as a servant. So remember the term Son is one of endearment of a faithful servant.
James 1:1-3
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,16:42) BD spews Lies, Lies, and more Lies.
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.”Hi BD,
Mental hospitals are full of folk who believe thay are Napoleon or a prophet sent by God.
We do need to have a certain discernment and your human offering seems deficient in power and love.
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