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Quote (karmarie @ June 02 2010,09:46) People study the scruptures they turn to them they think Jesus is God they will not be turned away because God knows the intent of their heart the Father loves the Son. He has given all into his hands.
If they believe Jesus is God they do not believe in The Father and The Son because they believe that The Father is The Son, do you understand?Bod, I told you before, scripture says; He “Jesus” came into HIS OWN,ascended back to heaven to the glory He had BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. He is the mighty God and the Everlasting Father(thats scriptual too Isaiah 9;6) Why would He be called those precious names? You quotted; Isaiah 7;14 were it says and His name shall be called Emmanuel- Do you know that means “God with us”? He is our only hope for salvation. He is going to judge us, He is going to set up His new kingdom, and He is who we spend eternity with. What about the scripture I quotted you were Thomas calls Him, His lord and God, and Jesus tells Him blessed are those who havent seen and still beleive. If He was just a normal man, (prophet) than how could He of done all the miracles he did, healings, did not sin(could not sin) and everything He was going to go threw on earth was already wrote in the old testament(I quotted it to you) and Jesus even knew everything He was going to have to go threw befor he even did it. Said He had to fulfill the scriptures. And how when the bible says there is only ONE lord and the Lord is GOD, than why does scripture says jesus Christ is Lord? You cannot have the holy Spirit if you cant say; Jesus is Lord! and thats scriptual too. And yet God shares His glory with no one,hmm? I have more I would like to show you, but I would like for you to answer the things I have quotted you. I'll wait!
God bless you..
katjoQuote (katjo @ June 02 2010,14:20) Bod, I told you before, scripture says; He “Jesus” came into HIS OWN,ascended back to heaven to the glory He had BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. He is the mighty God and the Everlasting Father(thats scriptual too Isaiah 9;6) Why would He be called those precious names? You quotted; Isaiah 7;14 were it says and His name shall be called Emmanuel- Do you know that means “God with us”? He is our only hope for salvation. He is going to judge us, He is going to set up His new kingdom, and He is who we spend eternity with. What about the scripture I quotted you were Thomas calls Him, His lord and God, and Jesus tells Him blessed are those who havent seen and still beleive. If He was just a normal man, (prophet) than how could He of done all the miracles he did, healings, did not sin(could not sin) and everything He was going to go threw on earth was already wrote in the old testament(I quotted it to you) and Jesus even knew everything He was going to have to go threw befor he even did it. Said He had to fulfill the scriptures. And how when the bible says there is only ONE lord and the Lord is GOD, than why does scripture says jesus Christ is Lord? You cannot have the holy Spirit if you cant say; Jesus is Lord! and thats scriptual too. And yet God shares His glory with no one,hmm? I have more I would like to show you, but I would like for you to answer the things I have quotted you. I'll wait! God bless you..
katjoQuote If He was just a normal man, (prophet) than how could He of done all the miracles he did, healings, And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.
1 Kings 17:21-23Elijah raised the dead Just like Jesus raized Lazarus
And as Obadiah was in the way, behold, Elijah met him: and he knew him, and fell on his face, and said, Art thou that my lord Elijah?
1 Kings 18:6-8Elijah was called lord and worshipped
And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
2 Kings 2:8-10Elijah provided the Holy Spirit
And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
2 Kings 2:10-12Elijah was taken up to Heaven without dying
Is Elijah “God”?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 02 2010,13:40) Quote (karmarie @ June 02 2010,09:46) People study the scruptures they turn to them they think Jesus is God they will not be turned away because God knows the intent of their heart the Father loves the Son. He has given all into his hands.
If they believe Jesus is God they do not believe in The Father and The Son because they believe that The Father is The Son, do you understand?
Bod, some are like babes in understanding some are more mature, whoever has the son has the Father also and they will make their abode with him. In his house are many rooms.Hebrews 5:12-14 ” Though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.”
1 John 2:23-27 “No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that he made to us—eternal life.
I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him”.John 14;21-24 “He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?” Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me”.
John 14;1-7 “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.” Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.”
Sheppard of hermas..written aprox 90AD
CHAPTER II.
” A certain man had a field and many slaves, and he planted a certain part of the field with a vineyard, and selecting a faithful and beloved and much valued slave, he called him to him, and said, 'Take this vineyard which I have planted, and stake it until I come, and do nothing else to the vineyard; and attend to this order of mine, and you shall receive your freedom from me.' And the master of the slave departed to a foreign country.And when he was gone, the slave took and staked the vineyard; and when he had finished the staking of the vines, he saw that the vineyard was full of weeds. He then reflected, saying, 'I have kept this order of my master: I will dig up the rest of this vineyard, and it will be more beautiful when dug up; and being free of weeds, it will yield more fruit, not being choked by them.' He took, therefore, and dug up the vineyard, and rooted out all the weeds that were in it. And that vineyard became very beautiful and fruitful, Having no weeds to choke it.
And after a certain time the master of the slave and of the field returned, and entered into the vineyard. And seeing that the vines were suitably supported on stakes, and the ground, moreover, dug up, and all the weeds rooted out, and the vines fruitful, he was greatly pleased with the work of his slave.
And calling his beloved son who was his heir, and his friends who were his councillors, he told them what orders he had given his slave, and what he had found performed. And they rejoiced along with the slave at the testimony which his master bore to him. And he said to them, 'I promised this slave freedom if he obeyed the command which I gave him; and he has kept my command, and done besides a good work to the vineyard, and has pleased me exceedingly. In return, therefore, for the work which he has done, I wish to make him co-heir with my son, because, having good thoughts, he did not neglect them, but carried them out.' With this resolution of the master his son and friends were well pleased, that the slave should be co-heir with the son.
After a few days the master made a feast, and sent to his slave many dishes from his table. And the slave receiving the dishes that were sent him from his master, took of them what was sufficient for himself, and distributed the rest among his fellow-slaves. And his fellow-slaves rejoiced to receive the dishes, and began to pray for him, that he might find still greater favour with his master for having so treated them. His master heard all these things that were done, and was again greatly pleased with his conduct. And the master again calling; together his friends and his son, reported to them the slave's proceeding with regard to the dishes which he had sent him. And they were still more satisfied that the slave should become co-heir with his son.”
CHAPTER V.
“I said to you a little ago,” he answered, “that you were cunning and obstinate in asking explanations of the parables; but since you are so persistent, I shall unfold to you the meaning of the similitudes of the field, and of all the others that follow, that you may make them known to every one. Hear now,” he said, “and understand them.The field is this world; and the Lord of the field is He who created, and perfected, and strengthened all things; [and the son is the Holy Spirit; ] and the slave is the Son of God; and the vines are this people, whom He Himself planted; and the stakes are the holy angels of the Lord, who keep His people together; and the weeds that were plucked out of the vineyard are the iniquities of God's servants; and the dishes which He sent Him from His able are the commandments which He gave His people through His Son; and the friends and fellow-councillors are the holy angels who were first created; and the Master's absence from home is the time that remains until His appearing.”
I said to him, “Sir, all these are great, and marvellous, and glorious things. Could I, therefore,” I continued, “understand them? No, nor could any other man, even if exceedingly wise. Moreover,” I added, “explain to me what I am about to ask you.” “Say what you wish,” he replied. “Why, sir,” I asked, “is the Son of God in the parable in the form of a slave?”
CHAPTER VI.
“Hear,” he answered: “the Son of God is not in the form of a slave, but in great power and might.” “How so, sir?” I said; “I do not understand.” “Because,” he answered, “God planted the vineyard, that is to say, He created the people, and gave them to His Son; and the Son appointed His angels over them to keep them; and He Himself purged away their sins, having suffered many trials and undergone many labours, for no one is able to dig without labour and toil. He Himself, then, having purged away the sins of the people, showed them the paths of life by giving them the law which He received from His Father. [You see,” he said, “that He is the Lord of the people, having received all authority from His Father. ] And why the Lord took His Son as councillor, and the glorious angels, regarding the heirship of the slave, listen.The holy, pre-existent Spirit, that created every creature, God made to dwell in flesh, which He chose. This flesh, accordingly, in which the Holy Spirit dwelt, was nobly subject to that Spirit, walking religiously and chastely, in no respect defiling the Spirit; and accordingly, after living excellently and purely, and after labouring and co-operating with the Spirit, and having in everything acted vigorously and courageously along with the Holy Spirit, He assumed it as a partner with it. For this conduct of the flesh pleased Him, because it was not defiled on the earth while having the Holy Spirit.
He took, therefore, as fellow-councillors His Son and the glorious angels, in order that this flesh, which had been subject to the body without a fault, might have some place of tabernacle, and that it might not appear that the reward [of its servitude had been lost ], for the flesh that has been found without spot or defilement, in which the Holy Spirit dwelt, [will receive a reward ]. You have now the explanation of this parable also.”
Bod, Im posting this again because you didnt answer before. I want you to tell me how you can deny what these scripts. say! He “Jesus” came into HIS OWN,ascended back to heaven to the glory He had BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. He is the mighty God and the Everlasting Father(thats scriptual too Isaiah 9;6) Why would He be called those precious names? You quotted; Isaiah 7;14 were it says and His name shall be called Emmanuel- Do you know that means “God with us”? He is our only hope for salvation. He is going to judge us, He is coming to set up His new kingdom, and He is who we spend eternity with. What about the scripture I quotted you were Thomas calls Him, His lord and God, and Jesus tells Him blessed are those who havent seen and still beleive. If He was just a normal man, (prophet) than how could He of done all the miracles he did, healings, did not sin(could not sin) and everything He was going to go threw on earth was already wrote in the old testament(I quotted it to you) and Jesus even knew everything He was going to have to go threw befor he even did it. Said He had to fulfill the scriptures. And how when the bible says there is only ONE lord and the Lord is GOD, than why does scripture says jesus Christ is Lord? You cannot have the holy Spirit if you cant say; Jesus is Lord! and thats scriptual too. And yet God shares His glory with no one,hmm?
katjoBod, was Elijah the Messiah(king of Isreal)that the whole New Testament speaks of..no… At the end of Moses life God made him a promise that He would raise them (Isreal)up a great prophet like moses.(Deut.18) Moses was the great leader of Isreal, He lead the slaves out of Egypt , gave Gods law to them and performed many miracles. God raised up other prophets for Isreal including Elijah and Even for centuries Isreal had no prophets at all. But they still waited for that “special prophet” that was greater than Moses. Than there was John the baptist, but the gospels clearly shows that Jesus was the prophet like Moses. This is interesting, read this:
MOSES; was raised in a royal court, left the life of luxury to be among his own people, who were slaves
JESUS;the Son of God, came to live among human beings as one of them.
MOSES; is almost exterminated in his infancy by the evil Pharoah
JESUS;is almost exterminated in His infancy by the wicked king Herod
MOSES;receives the commands of God on a mountain
JESUS;delivers His greatest sermon on a mountain
MOSES;is tested in the wilderness for fourty years
JESUS;is tested by satan in the wilderness for fourty days
MOSES;is constantly misunderstood and persecuted by his people
JESUS;is constantly misunderstood and persecuted by His people
MOSES;,on two occasions,is almost stoned by the people
JESUS;on two occasions, is almost stoned bt the people
MOSES;is a very humble man
JESUS;is meek and lowly of heart
MOSES;intercedes with God for the rebellious people
JESUS;intercedes with God for the rebellious people
MOSES;with his arms out stretched gives hope to his people
JESUS;STRETCHED OUT ON THE CROSS GIVES HOPE TO HIS PEOPLE
MOSES;saves people by lifting up the bronze snake on a pole
JESUS;saves people by being lifted up on the cross
MOSES;leads people out of slavery
JESUS;leads people out of death
jesus is Lord… AMEN!thought you might like to read that.
god bless… katjoQuote (karmarie @ June 02 2010,19:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 02 2010,13:40) Quote (karmarie @ June 02 2010,09:46) People study the scruptures they turn to them they think Jesus is God they will not be turned away because God knows the intent of their heart the Father loves the Son. He has given all into his hands.
If they believe Jesus is God they do not believe in The Father and The Son because they believe that The Father is The Son, do you understand?
Bod, some are like babes in understanding some are more mature, whoever has the son has the Father also and they will make their abode with him. In his house are many rooms.Hebrews 5:12-14 ” Though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.”
1 John 2:23-27 “No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that he made to us—eternal life.
I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him”.John 14;21-24 “He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?” Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me”.
John 14;1-7 “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.” Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.”
Quote “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. “Also” certainly proves these are two different beings so if Jesus is telling you to believe in GOD and also himself how is it you believe that it is okay for someone to just believe in Jesus and not believe in God?
Yet, at the same time you don't believe that a person should or can believe in God and not “believe” in Jesus
You need to get all that untwisted in your head.
Quote (katjo @ June 02 2010,23:11) Bod, Im posting this again because you didnt answer before. I want you to tell me how you can deny what these scripts. say! He “Jesus” came into HIS OWN,ascended back to heaven to the glory He had BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. He is the mighty God and the Everlasting Father(thats scriptual too Isaiah 9;6) Why would He be called those precious names? You quotted; Isaiah 7;14 were it says and His name shall be called Emmanuel- Do you know that means “God with us”? He is our only hope for salvation. He is going to judge us, He is coming to set up His new kingdom, and He is who we spend eternity with. What about the scripture I quotted you were Thomas calls Him, His lord and God, and Jesus tells Him blessed are those who havent seen and still beleive. If He was just a normal man, (prophet) than how could He of done all the miracles he did, healings, did not sin(could not sin) and everything He was going to go threw on earth was already wrote in the old testament(I quotted it to you) and Jesus even knew everything He was going to have to go threw befor he even did it. Said He had to fulfill the scriptures. And how when the bible says there is only ONE lord and the Lord is GOD, than why does scripture says jesus Christ is Lord? You cannot have the holy Spirit if you cant say; Jesus is Lord! and thats scriptual too. And yet God shares His glory with no one,hmm?
katjo
Isaiah is in reference to Hezekiah which by the way name translates to “Mighty God” or “God has strengthened”It doesn't matter what the word Emmanuel means as the Name Jesus means “God saves”.
You said Jesus will judge us, Jesus says:
Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
John 8:14-16Are you right or is Jesus right about this?
Quote (katjo @ June 03 2010,00:26) Bod, was Elijah the Messiah(king of Isreal)that the whole New Testament speaks of..no… At the end of Moses life God made him a promise that He would raise them (Isreal)up a great prophet like moses.(Deut.18) Moses was the great leader of Isreal, He lead the slaves out of Egypt , gave Gods law to them and performed many miracles. God raised up other prophets for Isreal including Elijah and Even for centuries Isreal had no prophets at all. But they still waited for that “special prophet” that was greater than Moses. Than there was John the baptist, but the gospels clearly shows that Jesus was the prophet like Moses. This is interesting, read this: MOSES; was raised in a royal court, left the life of luxury to be among his own people, who were slaves
JESUS;the Son of God, came to live among human beings as one of them.
MOSES; is almost exterminated in his infancy by the evil Pharoah
JESUS;is almost exterminated in His infancy by the wicked king Herod
MOSES;receives the commands of God on a mountain
JESUS;delivers His greatest sermon on a mountain
MOSES;is tested in the wilderness for fourty years
JESUS;is tested by satan in the wilderness for fourty days
MOSES;is constantly misunderstood and persecuted by his people
JESUS;is constantly misunderstood and persecuted by His people
MOSES;,on two occasions,is almost stoned by the people
JESUS;on two occasions, is almost stoned bt the people
MOSES;is a very humble man
JESUS;is meek and lowly of heart
MOSES;intercedes with God for the rebellious people
JESUS;intercedes with God for the rebellious people
MOSES;with his arms out stretched gives hope to his people
JESUS;STRETCHED OUT ON THE CROSS GIVES HOPE TO HIS PEOPLE
MOSES;saves people by lifting up the bronze snake on a pole
JESUS;saves people by being lifted up on the cross
MOSES;leads people out of slavery
JESUS;leads people out of death
jesus is Lord… AMEN!thought you might like to read that.
god bless… katjo
Katjo,Moses and Jesus are nothing alike.
Moses Muhammad Jesus
Birth
Usual Usual UnusualFamily Life
wives/kids wives/kids No wives/kids
Death
Usual Usual UnusualCareer
Prophet/lawgiver Prophet/lawgiver Prophet
Forced Emigration (in adulthood)
To Median To Madinah None
Encounter with Enemies
Hot pursuit Hot pursuit/Battles No similar encounter
Writing down of Revelation
his Lifetime (Torah) his lifetime (Al-Qur'an) After him
Nature of teachings
Spiritual/Legal Spiritual/Legal Mainly SpiritualAcceptance of Leadership by his people
Rejected/Accepted Rejected/Accepted Rejected/”killed”
haha bod I do not. Did you read the part of the Sheppard of Hermas?
If you did then do you understand what it said about the son of God? Who was jesus?
Bud, John 8 “about Jesus judgeing” no at that time He did not. But when He returns “he is who we will stand before to be judged. I promise you that! Now Rev.21; 5…And he that sat upon the throne said, behold I make all things new.(jesus)and he said un to me; write for these words are true and faithful.(6)READ CAREFULLY!! I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, I WILL GIVE UNTO HIM THAT IS ATHIRST OF THE FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY (7) HE THAT OVERCOMETH SHALL INHERIT ALL THINGS; AND I WILL BE HIS GOD, AND HE SHALL BE MY SON. this is speaking of jesus and scripture just said, He said i will be his God. Than if you turn to Rev 22;12 RED LETTERS JESUS HIMSELF… And behold i come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (13)RED LETTERS(JESUS) I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE FIRST AND THE LAST. still dont think he is going to judge us? He is the Lord God. I would still like your thoughts on the scripts i posted you on pg. 43 (u answered one, John8) I would really like to know how you see them.
GOD BLESS…
katjoScripture also says you cannot have the Father without the Son, and without the Son you cant have the Holy Spirit(christ in you) Jesus says; Why do you say “Show us the Father”? When you see me “YOU SEE THE FATHER”
KATJO
Quote (karmarie @ June 03 2010,10:30) haha bod I do not. Did you read the part of the Sheppard of Hermas? If you did then do you understand what it said about the son of God? Who was jesus?
You will believe any book except the Quran, what would make the Sheppard of Hermas more believable than the Quran?By the way, how many times was Jesus mentioned in the book of Hermes?
Quote (katjo @ June 03 2010,11:07) Bud, John 8 “about Jesus judgeing” no at that time He did not. But when He returns “he is who we will stand before to be judged. I promise you that! Now Rev.21; 5…And he that sat upon the throne said, behold I make all things new.(jesus)and he said un to me; write for these words are true and faithful.(6)READ CAREFULLY!! I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, I WILL GIVE UNTO HIM THAT IS ATHIRST OF THE FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY (7) HE THAT OVERCOMETH SHALL INHERIT ALL THINGS; AND I WILL BE HIS GOD, AND HE SHALL BE MY SON. this is speaking of jesus and scripture just said, He said i will be his God. Than if you turn to Rev 22;12 RED LETTERS JESUS HIMSELF… And behold i come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (13)RED LETTERS(JESUS) I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE FIRST AND THE LAST. still dont think he is going to judge us? He is the Lord God. I would still like your thoughts on the scripts i posted you on pg. 43 (u answered one, John8) I would really like to know how you see them.
GOD BLESS…
katjo
I told you also that Isaiah is about Hezekiah.This is the issue you do not Believe that God Created Jesus nor do you believe Jesus when he says that you should believe in The Only True God and also him.
If Jesus was God he would not have added himself. Jesus is not God you can even blaspheme his name and still inherit the Kingdom of God.
However you cannot blaspheme God or His Holy Spirit or you are in danger of Hellfire!!!!!
Quote (katjo @ June 03 2010,11:12) Scripture also says you cannot have the Father without the Son, and without the Son you cant have the Holy Spirit(christ in you) Jesus says; Why do you say “Show us the Father”? When you see me “YOU SEE THE FATHER” KATJO
Jesus also says about his disciple I in them and they in me, are we all also Jesus?Quote (bodhitharta @ June 03 2010,12:35) Quote (karmarie @ June 03 2010,10:30) haha bod I do not. Did you read the part of the Sheppard of Hermas? If you did then do you understand what it said about the son of God? Who was jesus?
You will believe any book except the Quran, what would make the Sheppard of Hermas more believable than the Quran?By the way, how many times was Jesus mentioned in the book of Hermes?
You didnt really read it did you?I know what writting is inspired.
In hermas it seems the son of God has always existed, he was the one through whom all things were created. He is the Holy Spirit.
Jesus was a man who the Son (Holy Spirit) came to dwell in.
Because Jesus was the perfect vessel he after suffering dyeing was risen from the dead and became the second son of God.
So there is now two sons of God. One the Holy Spirit who always was and two Jesus. The first from the dead,
And there will be many more, whomever the Son (Holy Spirit) dwells in.
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 03 2010,12:50) Quote (katjo @ June 03 2010,11:07) Bud, John 8 “about Jesus judgeing” no at that time He did not. But when He returns “he is who we will stand before to be judged. I promise you that! Now Rev.21; 5…And he that sat upon the throne said, behold I make all things new.(jesus)and he said un to me; write for these words are true and faithful.(6)READ CAREFULLY!! I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, I WILL GIVE UNTO HIM THAT IS ATHIRST OF THE FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY (7) HE THAT OVERCOMETH SHALL INHERIT ALL THINGS; AND I WILL BE HIS GOD, AND HE SHALL BE MY SON. this is speaking of jesus and scripture just said, He said i will be his God. Than if you turn to Rev 22;12 RED LETTERS JESUS HIMSELF… And behold i come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (13)RED LETTERS(JESUS) I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE FIRST AND THE LAST. still dont think he is going to judge us? He is the Lord God. I would still like your thoughts on the scripts i posted you on pg. 43 (u answered one, John8) I would really like to know how you see them.
GOD BLESS…
katjo
I told you also that Isaiah is about Hezekiah.This is the issue you do not Believe that God Created Jesus nor do you believe Jesus when he says that you should believe in The Only True God and also him.
If Jesus was God he would not have added himself. Jesus is not God you can even blaspheme his name and still inherit the Kingdom of God.
However you cannot blaspheme God or His Holy Spirit or you are in danger of Hellfire!!!!!
um id be carefull what you say to katjo there bod. You can speak to me like that but leave her alone.Quote (bodhitharta @ June 03 2010,03:28) Jesus Rejected/”killed“
Hi BD,
If you truly believe what you Posted here: I see improvement in you; BD!“The Passover”=148
[74+74=148]
Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148“Pentecost”=117
(Jesus was alive on day FOUR)63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
+54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]“Feast of Booths”=151
(Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)“Jesus is Lord”=151,
because “HolySpirit”=151 (his “Father”) is “GOD The Father”=117:
“The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
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PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Your brother,
but only in “Christ, Jeaus”=151!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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