Who is this woman clothed with

[terraricca]

wup

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Terra. You still up to now think that you are the bride of Christ. That means that you dont know where you will fit in the kingdom.But you also dont know what the kingdom is. What citizen; you dont know.So where are you going you dont know. wakeup.

you are confused you talking in all directions ,and tell things I never mention or say ;that is why no one can prove you wrong ,you are so unstable and so far from truth ,that you can not stay on it for long,

read what we talking of and see for yourself how far of you are

[Wakeup]

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wup Quote Terra. You still up to now think that you are the bride of Christ. That means that you dont know where you will fit in the kingdom.But you also dont know what the kingdom is. What citizen; you dont know.So where are you going you dont know. wakeup. you are confused you talking in all directions ,and tell things I never mention or say ;that is why no one can prove you wrong ,you are so unstable and so far from truth ,that you can not stay on it for long, read what we talking of and see for yourself how far of you are

Terra.

But you know that you are a citizen of canada?
Oh yeah,that you know.
If I tell you that you are the bride of canada,you would object.right?

But not object if called the bride of Zion the city of God.
How come?

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

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Hey Guys, When you post a bunch of Scripture that is suppose to relate to a topic, you should say exactly how each verse lines-up to what you believe. Give it a try guys, and you will be surprised how much it will help us all!

I agree with Ed.  Pierre did a fine job earlier in this thread.  He listed only a few verses, and then his understanding of those few verses.  And so on, and so on.

(He did the same thing in another thread I read earlier.)

Good job, Pierre!  I can actually learn from your scriptural knowledge when you do it that way.

Wakeup, I saw the long list of “daughter of Zion” scriptures you posted.  What of them?  Perhaps you could post one, and tell us how you understand that one.  Then post another, and tell us how you understand that one.  Etc, etc, etc.  

This is a great topic, and I am ready to learn.  Please teach me in a way that I can learn.

I'm not on board with God having a “heavenly woman” yet.

[mikeboll64]

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Rev 12:1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 1)so the woman, is to me a combination of Gods servant in heaven and on earth……….. Rev 12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. she was to give birth to the son of God Jesus Christ

Wait a minute here. Are you saying that Christ is the Son of “a combination of Gods servant in heaven and on earth”? How so?

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 13 2013,18:55) Rev 12:1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 1)so the woman, is to me a combination of Gods servant in heaven and on earth……….. Rev 12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. she was to give birth to the son of God Jesus Christ Wait a minute here.  Are you saying that Christ is the Son of “a combination of Gods servant in heaven and on earth”?  How so?

hi Mike

good question to ;

we know that Christ his THE WORD right so he is from heaven ,and also all the direction ,guidance,supervision,blessings,protection ,and angels servants all is of God, through his holy spirit ,this is represented by the SUN;

but God is also represented by his earthly people and servants ,all what he also created or brought forth sins the beginning ,through his holy spirit , this is represented by the MOON ,

but sins the WOMEN is seen in  heaven mean that she was at all time under God supervision and direction, SO THE WOMEN REPRESENT THE COMBINATION OF ALL GOD'S PARTICIPANT in heaven and on earth , IN THE FULFILLING OF HIS WILL TO SAVE MEN FROM SIN UNDER THE NOSE OF SATAN HIMSELF,

this is my understanding of the woman

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,11:10)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,15:55) Hey Guys, When you post a bunch of Scripture that is suppose to relate to a topic, you should say exactly how each verse lines-up to what you believe. Give it a try guys, and you will be surprised how much it will help us all! I agree with Ed.  Pierre did a fine job earlier in this thread.  He listed only a few verses, and then his understanding of those few verses.  And so on, and so on. (He did the same thing in another thread I read earlier.) Good job, Pierre!  I can actually learn from your scriptural knowledge when you do it that way. Wakeup, I saw the long list of “daughter of Zion” scriptures you posted.  What of them?  Perhaps you could post one, and tell us how you understand that one.  Then post another, and tell us how you understand that one.  Etc, etc, etc.   This is a great topic, and I am ready to learn.  Please teach me in a way that I can learn. I'm not on board with God having a “heavenly woman” yet.

MikeB.

You want to learn;this is good.
and you shall learn.

Since we have seen through scripture that there is a daughter of Zion; we also can assume that there is a mother Zion,in heaven. And her children are the angels.
The sons of God.

What is this mother of Zion?
She is Gods woman spiritually(metaphorically),she is all the things for what God stands for;peace righteousness, love.holyness,God fearing. in short, his doctrine.

Jesus was born of this woman.Rev.12:1.
She beget a son in the flesh through mary's womb,and his name is called Jesus.

And Jesus is to bring about the daughter of Zion here on earth,by preaching all about God his Father.And did teach
his 12 apostles.

The daughter of Zion had a few children,the apostles and a few more.

When Jesus finished his Job here on earth; he had to go back to his Father and left his woman to men, to spread it in all the earth. But men has corrupted this woman.

The time will come that Jesus will come back to get her working again,without any corruption.
And this will be in his 1000yr reign,when she is going to be prosperous. He sees his work ,as his precious woman. This is mataphorically speaking his bride.

And all the true followers the children of God,because he will hand her over to His God. And God will be all in all.
His son also will be subject to God.

wakeup.

[journey42]

mikeboll64,Jan. wrote:

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Wait a minute here.  Are you saying that Christ is the Son of “a combination of Gods servant in heaven and on earth”?  How so? Mike

I realise that this Woman Zion is confusing.
There is only one God.  Not a combination of Gods. It was just his wording, he mean't God's children, not Gods.
I would like to explain a different way in my own words.

There are 2 spiritual cities.

One is Babylon the Great, and is this world as we know it.
God depicts her as a harlot sitting on a beast.  There is no real actual harlot existing, but this is the way God depicts Satan's kingdom to us, as a harlot, going after other Gods. Not loyal to him. This harlot is depicted as a woman, because a woman produces children.  In this case, this harlot has produced many religions and beliefs since the beginning.  She is not giving her children milk, but wine, therefore making them drunk, and putting them into a spiritual sleep.  This woman stands for everything Satan is, darkness, without light (truth) and her children are multiplying and multiplying.

The other spiritual City is Zion.  God also depicts her as a woman.  Theres no real woman here, but God is picturing her to us as a woman also.  A woman, because she also produces children.  She feeds them milk and solids.  She is nurturing.  She is God's truth, and holy. She's all about preserving life, not destroying it. So this woman Zion has daughters, in other words, his kingdom has children, but within his kingdom, some of his children have not been so good.  So he has to clean out his kingdom (discipline the naughty children) and get his children back into line.  If they will not respect discipline, then he will cast them out.  This will be done by Christ at his second coming.  There will be a separation between the good and bad children. Those that truly belong to her, and those that don't.

[Ed J]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,11:10) This is a great topic, and I am ready to learn.  Please teach me in a way that I can learn. MikeB. What is this mother of Zion? She is Gods woman spiritually(metaphorically),she is all the things for what God stands for;peace righteousness, love.holyness,God fearing. in short, his doctrine. Jesus was born of this woman.Rev.12:1. She beget a son in the flesh through mary's womb,and his name is called Jesus. And Jesus is to bring about the daughter of Zion here on earth,by preaching all about God his Father.And did teach his 12 apostles. The daughter of Zion had a few children,the apostles and a few more. When Jesus finished his Job here on earth; he had to go back to his Father and left his woman to men, to spread it in all the earth. But men has corrupted this woman. The time will come that Jesus will come back to get her working again,without any corruption. And this will be in his 1000yr reign,when she is going to be prosperous. He sees his work ,as his precious woman. This is mataphorically speaking his bride. And all the true followers the children of God,because he will hand her over to His God. And God will be all in all. His son also will be subject to God. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup

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What is this mother of Zion? She is Gods woman spiritually

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Jesus was born of this woman.Rev.12:1

Add these two ideas about “Zion” together – and you get God's HolySpirit.
And here's how: The Word “Spirit” (in Hebrew) is the feminine.

If Zion represents “Doctrine” as you seem to be indicating.
Is it not “The Word” of The LORD (in the Old Testament)
And God's Holy Spirit (in the New Testament) binging us God's doctrine?

             Now consider carefully Deut.32:1-3:
(the SONG OF MOSES that the over-comers sing in Rev.15:3)

“Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain
 upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Because I will publish  
 the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.” (Deut 32:1-3)

        [The Latter Rain   &   Former Rain]
       (Feast of Tabernacles)   &     (Pentecost)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2013,13:16) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,11:10) This is a great topic, and I am ready to learn.  Please teach me in a way that I can learn. MikeB. What is this mother of Zion? She is Gods woman spiritually(metaphorically),she is all the things for what God stands for;peace righteousness, love.holyness,God fearing. in short, his doctrine. Jesus was born of this woman.Rev.12:1. She beget a son in the flesh through mary's womb,and his name is called Jesus. And Jesus is to bring about the daughter of Zion here on earth,by preaching all about God his Father.And did teach his 12 apostles. The daughter of Zion had a few children,the apostles and a few more. When Jesus finished his Job here on earth; he had to go back to his Father and left his woman to men, to spread it in all the earth. But men has corrupted this woman. The time will come that Jesus will come back to get her working again,without any corruption. And this will be in his 1000yr reign,when she is going to be prosperous. He sees his work ,as his precious woman. This is mataphorically speaking his bride. And all the true followers the children of God,because he will hand her over to His God. And God will be all in all. His son also will be subject to God. wakeup. Hi Wakeup Quote What is this mother of Zion? She is Gods woman spiritually Quote Jesus was born of this woman.Rev.12:1 Add these two ideas about “Zion” together – and you get God's HolySpirit. And here's how: The Word “Spirit” (in Hebrew) is the feminine. If Zion represents “Doctrine” as you seem to be indicating. Is it not “The Word” of The LORD (in the Old Testament) And God's Holy Spirit (in the New Testament) binging us God's doctrine?              Now consider carefully Deut.32:1-3: (the SONG OF MOSES that the over-comers sing in Rev.15:3) “Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.  My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain  upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Because I will publish    the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.” (Deut 32:1-3)         [The Latter Rain   &   Former Rain]        (Feast of Tabernacles)   &     (Pentecost) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Good observation,and I like that.

The old testament:Mother Zion

God sent his woman to earth through the prophets.
They were spreading the word to israel and teaching them all Gods statutes and traditions.

This was mother Zion,God himself was their king for a short time; then he left it to men.
And they also have corrupted this woman.

New testament:daughter of Zion.

Then this woman gave birth to a son and he carried on the work for a short time ,then left it to men.
and they also have corrupted this woman up to now,she is corrupted.

But he will come back to take over,and bing this woman to a wondrous woman, and all the earth will come and worship God.
This woman is Christs work on earth,she is his bride symbolically.

He has to hand her over to his Father when the 1000yrs are expired.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Now you're adding.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

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Hi Wakeup, Now you're adding. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Now I am starting from the beginning.
I am adding more knowledge.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

wup

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1)This woman is Christs work on earth,she is his bride symbolically. 2)He has to hand her over to his Father when the 1000yrs are expired.

please supply the scriptures to support those claims of yours for both item 1 and 2

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,09:35)

wup Quote 1)This woman is Christs work on earth,she is his bride symbolically. 2)He has to hand her over to his Father when the 1000yrs are expired. please supply the scriptures to support those claims of yours for both item 1 and 2

Terra.

I have explained it to ED; if you know your scriptures,you should understand.
Its about the old testament and the new,

wakeup

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,09:35) wup Quote 1)This woman is Christs work on earth,she is his bride symbolically. 2)He has to hand her over to his Father when the 1000yrs are expired. please supply the scriptures to support those claims of yours for both item 1 and 2 Terra. I have explained it to ED; if you know your scriptures,you should understand. Its about the old testament and the new, wakeup

No scriptures just interpretation opinions based on personal orientation ,with world views

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,10:58) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,09:35) wup Quote 1)This woman is Christs work on earth,she is his bride symbolically. 2)He has to hand her over to his Father when the 1000yrs are expired. please supply the scriptures to support those claims of yours for both item 1 and 2 Terra. I have explained it to ED; if you know your scriptures,you should understand. Its about the old testament and the new, wakeup       No scriptures just interpretation opinions based on personal orientation ,with world views

Tera.

Still can not see.
I can not do anything to make you see.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,19:57)

Tera. Still can not see. I can not do anything to make you see. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

I would recommend you telling him the truth of what the Scriptures are saying.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,19:57) Tera. Still can not see. I can not do anything to make you see. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, I would recommend you telling him the truth of what the Scriptures are saying. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

He should know the old and the new testament.
He should know that God was king of israel in the beginning.

He sould know that Jesus was born of Gods woman.
I have explained it simple enough.

wakeup.

[Devolution]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,09:35)

wup Quote 1)This woman is Christs work on earth,she is his bride symbolically. 2)He has to hand her over to his Father when the 1000yrs are expired. please supply the scriptures to support those claims of yours for both item 1 and 2

Pierre,

Simply, this woman stands for the truth.

And Gods word is truth.

And Jesus declared Gods word.

And many accepted that truth.

This was that work Christ was sent for.

This woman has 12 crowns, these are the 12 Apostles, the foundations of the new covenant, it was her that had the children that follow Christ's commandments.

Mary certainly didn't give birth to the disciples, but this woman did.

This same woman who brought forth a man child to rule all nations.

Her.

Its all there in chapter 12.

She was hidden in the wilderness for 3 1/2 years, you can find the confirmation in Acts.

[Ed J]

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Its all there in chapter 12. She was hidden in the wilderness for 3 1/2 years, you can find the confirmation in Acts.

Hi Devolution,

Could you be a tad bit more specific?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2013,00:03)

Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 19 2013,23:36) Its all there in chapter 12. She was hidden in the wilderness for 3 1/2 years, you can find the confirmation in Acts. Hi Devolution, Could you be a tad bit more specific? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

Since the woman gave birth to those who follow the Lamb, that seed, and she was nourished in the wilderness 3 1/2 years, then there should be some record of it in the scriptures yes?

Well, I found it a few years ago, and I'm saying…it is to be found in Acts.

But you have to first understand the woman before you know what you are looking for.

Work out the metaphor for woman, which we have told you many times.
Work out nourished, which we have told you already.
Work out wilderness which we have also told you.

Get these right, and you will be equipped to immediately discern the information when you come across it…in Acts.

I don't want to do your work for you, so happy hunting…unless of course, its not that important to you?

Thanks Ed.

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