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- April 8, 2012 at 1:21 pm#290806jamminParticipant
some says that ez 28.14-17 refers to satan.
also, they are using IS 14.12is it true or just another opinion from men??
what does the bible say about this?
lucifer is not satan.
for those who believe that lucifer is satan, you may respond to this post.
April 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm#290826mikeboll64BlockedI don't believe Satan is Lucifer either. Ezekiel 28 refers to the king of Tyre. Many confuse the text of verse 14, which really says,
28:14 NETBible
I placed you there with an anointed guardian cherub; you were on the holy mountain of GodApril 8, 2012 at 5:57 pm#290838terrariccaParticipantI don't believe he is Satan not even in Is;14;
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”
Isa 14:15 But you are brought down to the grave,
to the depths of the pit.this confirms Revelation
April 9, 2012 at 4:40 am#291001April 9, 2012 at 10:00 am#291071jamminParticipantmike and terrarica,
we agree on this matter but i dont know with edj.
it seems that edj believes that lucifer is satan. well, he cant read that in the bible. it is just again his opinion.April 9, 2012 at 11:30 am#291092Ed JParticipantApril 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm#291113jamminParticipanti already saw that link. but there is no verses there that say that lucifer is satan. make your own version
April 9, 2012 at 3:18 pm#291132Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,22:30) Hi Jammin, Here is your proof. (Link)
God bless
Ed J
It's a different link, Jammin.That's why you have so much trouble learning truth,
you continually make the assumption you already know.The systems of religion have taught you errors, not truth.
Revelation 18:4-5 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her
sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm#291133jamminParticipantQuote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,02:18) Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,22:30) Hi Jammin, Here is your proof. (Link)
God bless
Ed J
It's a different link, Jammin.That's why you have so much trouble learning truth,
you continually make the assumption you already know.The systems of religion have taught you errors, not truth.
Revelation 18:4-5 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her
sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
no edj. i saw that already and the verse did not say that lucifer is satan.make your own version.
April 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm#291213Ed JParticipantHi Everybody,
Isa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:
1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a sword“At the mouth of three witnesses,
shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Father, I pray that you bring enlightenment to all who read this post, in YÄ-shü-ă's precious name I pray, Amen!
April 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm#291214Ed JParticipantHi Jammin,
All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in [Jesus] bodily. (Col.2:9)
Similarly, we are also a part of the body of Christ. (1Cor. 12:27)These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:
1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a swordSo we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
are all part of the whole body of Christ. Did not GOD also create {Lucifer}
and how is Lucifer connected to the body of Christ? Only in death was Lucifer
connected to the body of Christ. The key is found in Isaiah 14:19: thou art cast
out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword. Jesus is the only person (so far) whose body was cast out
of the grave. His body was also thrust through with a spear. Jesus is furthermore called
the branch in Zechariah 3:8. But the significant difference here is these things happened
to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
April 9, 2012 at 10:54 pm#291215Ed JParticipant. (Trinity and non-Trinity, can both views be correct?)
The three times the term “Godhead” is used
“The Godhead”=77 and “Christ=77”; which Illustrated “Jesus”. <– Past tense
Col:2:9: For in him (Christ=77) dwelleth all the fulness of “the Godhead”=77 bodily.YHVH=63 & “and Godhead”=63; illustrates “God The Father”. <– Present tense
Rom:1:20: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,
being understood by the things that are made, even his (117=יהוה האלהים)
Eternal power “and Godhead”=63; so that they are without excuse:As the offspring of the “HolySpirit”; we will illustrate the “HolySpirit”. <– Future tense
Acts:17:29: Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead
is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgApril 9, 2012 at 10:58 pm#291219Ed JParticipantHi Jammin,
Why it's important to know the seven feasts of God is because in them there is the recording of the Gospel:
1. The Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15 (Leviticus 23:5)……………………Passover is the feast of (יה) YÄ's Salvation.
2. Unleavened Bread (Chag Hamotzi) – Nisan 15-22 (Levi.23:6) ………Unleavened Bread is Jesus, the bread of life.
3. First Fruits (Yom Habikkurim) – Nisan 16-17 (Leviticus 23:11)………..First Fruits is resurrection or victory over death.
4. Pentecost (Shavu’ot) – Sivan 6-7 (Leviticus 23:16) …………………………Pentecost is “God’s Spirit” given to indwell in man.
5. Trumpets (Yom Teru’ah) – Tishri 1 (Leviticus 23:24)…………………………Trumpets is our proclamation of liberty through faith.
6. Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10 (Leviticus 23:27)………………………is Jesus’ atoning sacrifice for our sins upon (†) a cross.
7. Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) – Tishri 15-22 (Lev.23:34) ………………is the Feast of our ingathering unto The LORD our GOD.Chanaukah symbolizes repentance, which is the rededication of life unto the LORD our GOD (יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm).
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgApril 9, 2012 at 11:04 pm#291220Ed JParticipantHi Jammin,
God's Name [יהוה] translates DIRECTLY into English as “YHVH”=63
The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
[“The Latter Rain“=151 and “former rain“=117] unto the earth.I added “COLOR”=63 to help you grasp the “Ideas” God has put forth in His Word!
THE “THREE” MAIN “FEASTS OF GOD” (allocate as “The Trinity”=148) are as follows…1) “The Passover”=148 “The Passover”: made possible “Pentecost”=117
“Messiah: Jesus”=148 “JESUS CHRIST“=151 was the “Testator”=151!2) “Pentecost”=117 Started the “God Spirit”=117(Holy Spirit), which
“Former Rain”=117 is “GOD THE FATHER”=117 reigning in Mankind!3) “Feast of Booths”=151 begins The “HOLY SPIRIT”=151(The LORD JEHOVAH)
“The Latter Rain”=151 “Tabernacles Feast”=151; the culmination of all “THREE”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 9, 2012 at 11:07 pm#291221NickHassanParticipantHi ED
You say
“So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
are all part of the whole body of Christ.”Who does you US include?
All men? NO WAY
All of christendom? NOT THE WHORE
All those[few]joined to Christ by water and the Spirit? YESYou should not JUMP TO conclusions.
What is this GODHEAD?
God is not a PART of the body of Christ.
The Body of Christ is Spiritually joined with Him.
God knows those who are his. Many are called but few are chosen.
April 9, 2012 at 11:10 pm#291223Ed JParticipantI apologize to everyone for being slightly off topic.
But Jammin needs to see this information badly!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgApril 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm#291228Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,10:07) Hi ED
You say
“So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
are all part of the whole body of Christ.”Who does you US include?
All men? NO WAY
All of christendom? NOT THE WHORE
All those[few]joined to Christ by water and the Spirit? YESYou should not JUMP TO conclusions.
What is this GODHEAD?
God is not a PART of the body of Christ.
The Body of Christ is Spiritually joined with Him.
God knows those who are his. Many are called but few are chosen.
Hi Nick,All that 'squag' was separated form the body of “Christ” at his crucifixion! <– Which "IS" the point that I have made.
Except a man be [born of water] ↔ [born of the Spirit], he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is [born of the flesh] is flesh; and that which is [born of the Spirit] is spirit. (John 3:5-6)
“If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you,
he(HolySpirit) that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken
your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” (Romans 8:11)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgApril 9, 2012 at 11:52 pm#291235NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
The body of Jesus was changed I believe to the heavenly one on being taken up.He showed the meaning of the church[body] in the breaking and the sharing together of the bread and wine.
The Spirit unites all members as one to Christ the head.
April 10, 2012 at 12:06 am#291238NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
What do you mean by SQUAG? Sin?You need to say who the US is.
Only those with the Spirit of Christ are his.[Rom8]April 10, 2012 at 3:20 am#291266Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,11:06) Hi ED,
(1) What do you mean by SQUAG? Sin?(2) You need to say who the US is.
(3) Only those with the Spirit of Christ are his.[Rom8]
Hi Nick,1) The closest term you would be familiar with would be 'chaff' or 'tares'.
'Squag' is the useless parts that are discarded: like an orange peal, shipping rap, ect.
2) Everyone, the good, the bad, and the ugly, believers, non-believers, rebellious Angels, and loyal Angels.3) To enter the kingdom of God, one(all Preexisting Angels) needs to be
born of water(meaning born Physically) and Spiritually(or a Spiritual re-birth).Thank you for your time, Nick!
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