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Let me tell you something about the light of the spirit.
In heaven the light is bright and pure, because it reflects God’s light.
On earth the light is darkness, because it reflects the dragons light.
See all the things that is going on in this world,that is the reflection of the dragon’s character.
We should reflect God’s character.Now one more scripture re’ God’s kingdom on earth.
Revelation 11:15 And the *seventh angel* sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world ARE BECOME the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever..
You can disregard those words, and STILL say that Christ has ruled on earth for 2000years now. But then; what good are the scriptures for? If it is ok to stamp on them anytime at will?wakeup.
Wakeup……What makes you think we are asleep, but you are not ? Please tell us where you got your. information from. Did a messengwr from God come to you and tell you to go and tells us this, or did you out of your own mind (spirit) come up with it. Please inform us are you the trumpet that wakes up the virgins out of their sleep, and if you are, please tell us who told you to do it, was it an ANGEL, our lord JESUS the CHRIST, or perhaps GOD the FATHER himself, or was it just you own imagination comming from your own mind, a self proclaimed messenger who seek to make himself look important?
I am not saying you are one or the other, it’s not my place to judge you, but according to some of tne things i have read from you, that is not scripturely supported , i do have my doubts. EVEN SATAN CAN PRESENT HIMSELF AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, WERE TOLD. I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR ZEAL, that’s a good thing if used properly and in accordance to the words of GOD. BUT remember we are also told “do not suffer a novice to preach”, least they get puffed up in their own minds. Again i am not trying to belittle you, but please give us a little concederation in reguards to the words of GOD and our brother, the lord Jesus, who is the Christ.
peace and love to you and yours. …………………gene
Wakeup,
Are your sexist comments supposed to quieten me down? If so, why is your main mouthpiece, Journey, a woman? Do you pick and choose the verses to your liking ? Do you forget the very scriptures you quote say there is neither male nor female? Do you believe that only you have truth? Yet, you have so many erors, imo. “Show me my errors – prove it” you say. You are shown proof – then you don’t see it. Then, you say again a week later “show me proof and I’ll believe”. Sounds familiar…Speaking for myself, I don’t need any Christian to believe my point of view. I speak – people listen or not – up to them.
GeneB.
You are all about the messenger, not the message.
I can understand your position.
It is a new song to you, and you are not familiar with it.
But really it is not a new song, it was there from the beginning,
it is just that you have never been shown.
I have been given much knowledge, and I was told not to hide my pennies in the sand.
Do not stamp on any scriptures for the sake of your own gain.wakeup.
Camellia.
Those are NOT my own comments.
Women in scripture represents churches; not physical women.
The churches are at ease, not women as physical women.
You have just stamped with your feet the word of God.rev.11:15.
And also Isaiah 32,and many more, for your own gain.
All scriptures are inspired by God, good for correction and reproof.
Do not stamp on scriptures with your feet for your own gain, and say: wherefore did we offend the Lord?
You say that you don’t need anyone to tell you anything.
I can see that clearly, not even the apostles nor Jesus The word of God.
You have shown that by stamping on scriptures as if nothing.
Your mind is set like concrete; no scripture can change that.
Not a good position to be in.wakeup.
Wakeup, you keep quoting the same verse to me: “Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.”
I don’t listen to man, I only listen to God, UNLESS someone speaks sense and truth.
Women in scripture represents churches; not physical women.
The churches are at ease, not women as physical women.
You have just stamped with your feet the word of God.rev.11:15.No, Wakeup. You did not mean them that way – you were directing them at woman in general, imo. Not just this thread.
And also Isaiah 32,and many more, for your own gain.
Wakeup, just because my understanding of those scriptures is different than your own, does not mean I am trampling them. I am not alone in my understanding of those scriptures. Millions of others also see them the same way. What makes you so sure your understanding of them is correct?
Your mind is set like concrete; no scripture can change that.
Not a good position to be in.You are speaking of yourself.
You don’t believe in water baptism, even though it is a commandment of Jesus.
You don’t believe in being born again in this life, even though scripture uses the word to mean now.
You don’t believe Jesus was raised flesh and bone, even though Jesus said “Touch me and see, a spirit does not have flesh and bone, like you see I have”.
You don’t believe the verses that say:
‘All power and authority has been given to me in Heaven and on Earth.’
‘Angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.’
‘He is the head over all rule and authority’.
‘Far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.’
‘He is the head over all rule and authority’.You also don’t believe that Satan was bound at the cross.
And more..
Correct me if I am wrong in anything you believe in the above, Wakeup.
My point is that you are accusing me and others of trampling scriptures. Why? Just because our understanding is different than your own.
Wakeup: I understand what you are trying to do: Stir people up to be involved in prophecy, and I see nothing wrong with that. (and, BTW I said amen to Gene’s earlier post, not because of who it was directed at, but because there was truth in what he said, and it could apply to all). But, through stirring us up to prophecy, listening to what others have to say, with an open mind, would help.
Nick…. I agree with you, sadly wakeup has self elevated himself, i ask him to tell us who sent him to preach to us, he has no answer, why?, because no one has, he simply imagines he has a mession, he is decieving himself to gain self importance it appears. We all know that a church in scripture can be defined as a women, which is the bride of Christ, and so is Babylon the great harlot, called a mother, which is also a women. That nedaphor is used in scripture that is true. But many scriptures he forces the text to say what infact they are not actually saying, causing us to doubt him. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………gene
Wakeup…..You are right i am about the messenger, what does this say to you.
John 10:26-29…..> but you believe not because you are not of my sheep, as i said unto you. 27, My sheep hear “my” voice, and I know them, and they follow “me”; 28, AND I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand. 29, MY Father, which gives them to me, is greater then all; and no one is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
We have someone who teaches us and we know his voice, a false Shepard we will not follow, no matter how importance he may thinks he is wakeup.
peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
Camellia.
Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.DID JESUS APPEAR TO THE APOSTLES AS DESCRIBED ABOVE? YES/NO?
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, WALKED ABOUT, seeking whom he may devour:
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE SATAN IS CRUCIFIED? YES/NO.?Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, SAYING, THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS CHRISTT. AND HE SHALL REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER.
IT SAYS HE SHALL REIGN; (FUTURE). YES/NO?
DOES IT SAY THAT CHRIST IS TAKEN OVER HIS OWN KINGDOM?? YES/NO.?
IT SAYS THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD. YES/NO?wakeup.
GeneB.
To go after the messenger is that the right thing to do in your eyes?
Are you not suppose to go after the message; and find fault?
Then state your reasons why; and bring forth your evidence using scriptures?wakeup.
Wakeup,
First paragraph of you post, I don’t understand your question.
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, WALKED ABOUT, seeking whom he may devour:
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE SATAN IS CRUCIFIED? YES/NO.?Where did I say THAT?
I said Satan was BOUND.Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations any more until the thousand years were ended.
Matthew 12:25 And knowing their thoughts Jesus said to them, “Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand. “If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand? “If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? For this reason they will be your judges. “But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. “Or how can anyone enter the strong man’s house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.
Hebrews 2:14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil.
John 12:31 “Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”
1 John 3:8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose,to destroy the works of the devil.
Col 2:15 When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.
Luke 10:17 The seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.” 18 And He said to them, “I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning. 19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.
Binding means restrained. Restrained from what? Deceiving the nations. Therefore, the Kingdom news has gone throughout the world. I have told you this so many times, Wakeup. Why do you keep asking the same question as if I have not answered you? Satan still works for sure, but he is limited in what he can do, until he is released one last time to do what? Deceive the nations once more.
Satan was BOUND at the cross.
Hebrews 2:14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil.
But, why am I saying this? You will not listen. You will just say I am wrong.
Hi Wakeup.
Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, SAYING, THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS CHRISTT. AND HE SHALL REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER.
Do you want me to go through ALL THE VERSES I have already quoted to show you this is the Son’s kingdom?
And, reg Revelations:
1) The book is not in chronological order.
2) Stories are retold in different ways. (Recapitulated)So, the chapter about the “millennium” is a short recap of the previous chapters.
And then/now/soon Satan is let loose to deceive the nations once more.
Wakeup. This is getting quite unhealthy. We are both rehashing our views, without mindfully listening. Let me know when you wish to discuss peacefully, and start a topic. Thank you.
Camellia.
You are speaking of yourself.
You don’t believe in water baptism, even though it is a commandment of Jesus.
You don’t believe in being born again in this life, even though scripture uses the word to mean now.
You don’t believe Jesus was raised flesh and bone, even though Jesus said “Touch me and see, a spirit does not have flesh and bone, like you see I have”.
You don’t believe the verses that say:
‘All power and authority has been given to me in Heaven and on Earth.’
‘Angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.’
‘He is the head over all rule and authority’.
‘Far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.’
‘He is the head over all rule and authority’.
You also don’t believe that Satan was bound at the cross.And more..
Correct me if I am wrong in anything you believe in the above, Wakeup.
My point is that you are accusing me and others of trampling scriptures. Why? Just because our understanding is different than your own.The above are your statement.
I expect you to answer my YES or NO questions camellia.
wakeup.
Repeat of my questions, below.
Camellia.
Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.DID JESUS APPEAR TO THE APOSTLES AS DESCRIBED ABOVE? YES/NO?
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, WALKED ABOUT, seeking whom he may devour:
IS SATAN FREE TO WAKE ABOUT? YES/NO.? YOU SAID,SATAN WAS BOUND TO THE CROSS.Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, SAYING, *THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD* ARE *BECOME* THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD*, AND OF HIS CHRISTT. AND *HE SHALL REIGN* FOR EVER AND EVER.
1.IT SAYS HE SHALL REIGN; 2. BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD. 3.THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD. 4.HE SHALL REIGN.(FUTURE). YES/NO?
DOES IT SAY THAT CHRIST IS TAKING OVER HIS OWN KINGDOM?? YES/NO.?
IT SAYS THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD. YES/NO? YOU BELIEVE HE IS REIGNING FOR 2000YEARS. YES/NO?wakeup.
.December 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm #787047
Wakeup, my answers are in my posts above. Can’t you see them?
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, WALKED ABOUT, seeking whom he may devour:
IS SATAN FREE TO WAKE ABOUT? YES/NO.? YOU SAID,SATAN WAS BOUND TO THE CROSS.Do you understand the word “restrained”?
A dog is restrained on a chain, yes?
Restrained in this context means limited.
Limited from what exactly?
Deceiving the nations.
Restrained does not mean finished or done away with, does it?
Rev 20:1-3
‘Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.”
Which goes with this:
Matthew 24:14 ‘This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.’
I am not going to repost all the scriptures I have posted on Satan being restrained, I have down that enough. Look at my last post, I think some are in there.
As i said, for the last time,
Reg Revelations:
1) The book is not in chronological order.
2) Stories are retold in different ways. (Recapitulated)So, the chapter about the “millennium” is a short recap of the previous chapters.
Thrones were set up and they reigned in Rev 20.
Go back to chapter one of Revelation, 4. They began to reign.
Rev-1-4 ‘Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood— and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
And more.
Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, SAYING, *THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD* ARE *BECOME* THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD AND OF HIS CHRISTT. AND *HE SHALL REIGN* FOR EVER AND EVER.
Answered above, plus all the others verses I have posted. As I said, do I need to post them again? Go back a page you might find them.
Okay, for the final time.
Matthew 28:18 ‘And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying,“All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.“
1 Peter 3:22 ‘Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.
Colossians 2:10 ‘For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority‘
Ephesians 1:20 ‘These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.’
Rev 1:4 ‘Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood—and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.’
All your questions answered Wakeup. I can’t post any longer, things to do. Peace (:
Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.DID JESUS APPEAR TO THE APOSTLES AS DESCRIBED ABOVE? YES/NO?
Jesus appeared to John in his vision like that, yes. John saw lots of things.
Do you understand the word “restrained”?
A dog is restrained on a chain, yes?
Restrained in this context means limited.
Limited from what exactly?
Deceiving the nations.
Cam
Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Restrained does not mean finished or done away with, does it?
Here is a glimpse of what it will be like when Satan is restrained;
Isaiah 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
Isaiah 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
The whole earth Cam, …the whole earth.Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
In the meantime;
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
It’s quite clear that Satan is still deceiving the nations, and christians, and therefore is not bound in any way, but roaming free doing what he’s good at.
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