When Jesus became the Anointed of God

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
FLESH and bone bodies??
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.
Why would the BONE of dust be any use in heaven??

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
FLESH from heaven?

Of course angels can be suitable garbed when they visit earth but we should not presume they are always like that.

We will become like to them.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,10:34) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,17:29) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,10:27) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,08:28) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,09:32) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,02:12) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,16:28) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,08:55) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,14:50) Hi T, Keep searching for the Spirit. Then you will gain the light N I can see you do not have neither the light or the spirit of Christ ,you have only Sunday bible school knowledge Hi Pierre, Isn't that where YOU were taught Jesus was(?) the word? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj to your question ;NO PIERRE, Are you saying that they did not teach that there? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj I grew up as a catholic for my first 8 years and they the priest kicked me out of the Sunday school ,because I told him that it was impossible for Mary to be the mother of God if God ad no beginning, oxymoron,and other things,so I spend very little time in that class it was also my catholic last connection even do my godmother was an None That's not an answer to my question.    …will you please answer? edj how would i know ,i told you were i went to religion school PIERRE, Are you unaware of what Catholicism teaches? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj I use to,but I really don't care their foundations are evil so why would i bother??? Hi Pierre, You seem to hold tight to at least one of there doctrines. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

[kerwin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,03:09)

Hi KW, FLESH and bone bodies?? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. Why would the BONE of dust be any use in heaven??

Nick,

In the Time to Come the Kingdom will be on earth as well as in heaven; just as Jesus prayed for:

Matthew 6:10
King James Version (KJV)

10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

To answer your question, it is written that Paradise is in the Third Heaven.  Adam and Eve had a flesh and bone body in Paradise.  They found things to do before The Fall.

2 Corinthians 12
King James Version (KJV)

2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Why should we assume that angels are not as they appear to us; especially when God has commanded his People to make statues in their likeness.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,00:15)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,03:09) Hi KW, FLESH and bone bodies?? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. Why would the BONE of dust be any use in heaven?? Nick, In the Time to Come the Kingdom will be on earth as well as in heaven; just as Jesus prayed for: Matthew 6:10 King James Version (KJV) 10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. To answer your question, it is written that Paradise is in the Third Heaven.  Adam and Eve had a flesh and bone body in Paradise.  They found things to do before The Fall. 2 Corinthians 12 King James Version (KJV) 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Why should we assume that angels are not as they appear to us; especially when God has commanded his People to make statues in their likeness.

K

For the simple reason that angels are not human and are spirit beings,and that God did not give us the data sheet of what that spirit his,

But we know that they are invisible to us,but can make them visible and that we can only be visible

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2012,12:44)

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,00:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,03:09) Hi KW, FLESH and bone bodies?? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. Why would the BONE of dust be any use in heaven?? Nick, In the Time to Come the Kingdom will be on earth as well as in heaven; just as Jesus prayed for: Matthew 6:10 King James Version (KJV) 10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. To answer your question, it is written that Paradise is in the Third Heaven.  Adam and Eve had a flesh and bone body in Paradise.  They found things to do before The Fall. 2 Corinthians 12 King James Version (KJV) 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Why should we assume that angels are not as they appear to us; especially when God has commanded his People to make statues in their likeness. K For the simple reason that angels are not human and are spirit beings,and that God did not give us the data sheet of what that spirit his, But we know that they are invisible to us,but can make them visible and that we can only be visible

Pierre,

You assume spirit means immaterial and not citizens of the realm of spirit. A flesh and bone angel can exist in the Third Heaven as the material Paradise is there.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,01:08)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2012,12:44) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,00:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,03:09) Hi KW, FLESH and bone bodies?? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. Why would the BONE of dust be any use in heaven?? Nick, In the Time to Come the Kingdom will be on earth as well as in heaven; just as Jesus prayed for: Matthew 6:10 King James Version (KJV) 10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. To answer your question, it is written that Paradise is in the Third Heaven.  Adam and Eve had a flesh and bone body in Paradise.  They found things to do before The Fall. 2 Corinthians 12 King James Version (KJV) 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Why should we assume that angels are not as they appear to us; especially when God has commanded his People to make statues in their likeness. K For the simple reason that angels are not human and are spirit beings,and that God did not give us the data sheet of what that spirit his, But we know that they are invisible to us,but can make them visible and that we can only be visible Pierre, You assume spirit means immaterial and not citizens of the realm of spirit.  A flesh and bone angel can exist in the Third Heaven as the material Paradise is there.

K

do you know more ??

to me angels are spirits (what ever that means I do not know ) do you know ? or you make up your own little story,
what Steven saw he said how he saw it does any one know

or do you so say yes I do , or No i do not ,may be would be false .Paul could not understand it and do

spirits including God belong to the heaven ,were that is I do not know ,if it was important to know for now God would have made sure we would know,

all things other than this is pure speculation

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2012,19:57)

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,01:08) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2012,12:44) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,00:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,03:09) Hi KW, FLESH and bone bodies?? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. Why would the BONE of dust be any use in heaven?? Nick, In the Time to Come the Kingdom will be on earth as well as in heaven; just as Jesus prayed for: Matthew 6:10 King James Version (KJV) 10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. To answer your question, it is written that Paradise is in the Third Heaven.  Adam and Eve had a flesh and bone body in Paradise.  They found things to do before The Fall. 2 Corinthians 12 King James Version (KJV) 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Why should we assume that angels are not as they appear to us; especially when God has commanded his People to make statues in their likeness. K For the simple reason that angels are not human and are spirit beings,and that God did not give us the data sheet of what that spirit his, But we know that they are invisible to us,but can make them visible and that we can only be visible Pierre, You assume spirit means immaterial and not citizens of the realm of spirit.  A flesh and bone angel can exist in the Third Heaven as the material Paradise is there. K do you know more ?? to me angels are spirits (what ever that means I do not know ) do you know ? or you make up your own little story, what Steven saw he said how he saw it does any one know or do you so say yes I do , or No i do not ,may be would be false .Paul could not understand it and do spirits including God belong to the heaven ,were that is I do not know ,if it was important to know for now God would have made sure we would know, all things other than this is pure speculation

Pierre,

God does teach us some things about these things but the most important thing is to seek God's righteousness.

[terraricca]

K

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in the Third Heaven as the material Paradise is there. ————–

No one knows

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,09:14)

K Quote in the Third Heaven as the material Paradise is there. ————– No one knows

Pierre,

Scripture declares that Paradise is in the Third Heaven therefore Paradise is in the Third Heaven.

It does not have to be Eden but since Eden does not appear to be on Earth at this time it seems likely.

[terraricca]

K

What is paradise ?

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,10:13)

K What is paradise ?

Pierre,

1 a : the garden where according to the account in Genesis Adam and Eve first lived
b : an intermediate place or state where the souls of the righteous await resurrection and the final judgment
c: A place like those

Note: merriam-webster.com is my source though I formatted it for better answering the question.

Luke 23:43
King James Version (KJV)

43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Revelation 2:7
King James Version (KJV)

7He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

2 Corinthians 12
King James Version (KJV)

1It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,01:06)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,10:13) K What is paradise ? Pierre, 1 a : the garden where according to the account in Genesis Adam and Eve first lived b : an intermediate place or state where the souls of the righteous await resurrection and the final judgment c: A place like those Note: merriam-webster.com is my source though I formatted it for better answering the question. Luke 23:43 King James Version (KJV) 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. Revelation 2:7 King James Version (KJV) 7He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. 2 Corinthians 12 King James Version (KJV) 1It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

K

so it look like no one knows ,just speculate right ??

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So Jesus of Nazareth was anointed[acts 10.38]
Seems like a man and not a preexistent being was anointed.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,14:10)

Hi, So Jesus of Nazareth was anointed[acts 10.38] Seems like a man and not a preexistent being was anointed.

N

you don't believe the man that was anointed ,so what can I say

there are many things you do not believe in scriptures ,so you are filtering all scriptures to be in line with your way of believe

[mikeboll64]

Jude 1:25
to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

I think this should end the discussion once and for all.  Not only was he “Jesus” before all the ages, but he was Lord and Christ before all the ages too.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Interestingly neither the KJV nor YLT have “through Jesus Christ our Lord”in this verse.

It is plain then without the addition that it all refers to our Father God.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,15:12)

Hi MB, Interestingly neither the KJV nor YLT have “through Jesus Christ our Lord”in this verse. It is plain then without the addition that it all refers to our Father God.

N

Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.NIV 1984

1:25 to the only God our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, power, and authority, before all time, and now, and for all eternity. Amen.BIBLE net,

Jude 1:24 Benediction

Now to him who is able to keep you from falling, and to make you stand without blemish in the presence of his glory with rejoicing, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, power, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.NRSV

Jude 1:25 All glory to him, who alone is God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Yes, glory, majesty, power, and authority belong to him, in the beginning, now, and forevermore. Amen.NLT

Jude 1:25 to the only God our Saviour, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, might, and authority, from before the whole age, and now, and to all the ages. Amen.DARBY

Jude 1:25 to the only God our Saviour, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and power, before all time, and now, and for evermore. Amen.ASV

JUDE 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.NASV

Jude 1:25 To the one only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory (splendor), majesty, might and dominion, and power and authority, before all time and now and forever (unto all the ages of eternity). Amen (so be it).Amplified bible version

what is your problem

it is to refuse to believe in the son of God

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,13:55)

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,01:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,10:13) K What is paradise ? Pierre, 1 a : the garden where according to the account in Genesis Adam and Eve first lived b : an intermediate place or state where the souls of the righteous await resurrection and the final judgment c: A place like those Note: merriam-webster.com is my source though I formatted it for better answering the question. Luke 23:43 King James Version (KJV) 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. Revelation 2:7 King James Version (KJV) 7He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. 2 Corinthians 12 King James Version (KJV) 1It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. K so it look like no one knows ,just speculate right ??

Pierre,

Where is the Eden?

Is it on Earth?

Is it in Heaven?

[kerwin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,03:12)

Hi MB, Interestingly neither the KJV nor YLT have “through Jesus Christ our Lord”in this verse. It is plain then without the addition that it all refers to our Father God.

Nick,

Some translations have it while others do not.  It may depend on the manuscripts they use.  

Jude 1:25
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and [a]forever. Amen.
Footnotes:

   Jude 1:25 Lit to all the ages

These experts chose a different sentence structure than those of Mike's chosen translation.   This does not support his interpretation and it merely a switch of elements so I have my doubts awkward sounding translation does either.

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