When Jesus became the Anointed of God

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,14:41)

Hi MB, God was with him. The best father in the world  but God was not yet in him

More speculation, Nick? Show me what you claim using scripture.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Should we wallow in the realms of speculation?
God's will is done.

Do you know any who naturally had the Holy Spirit before God GAVE them the Spirit??

Please show this in scripture
. ” Anointed just means “set aside/apart for a specific reason/purpose”.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,23:02)

Stiff necked children will not accept the the Word was not anointed on earth. He was anointed before the earth was. wakeup.

Agreed, Wakeup.

Jesus was the anointed of God at the time the words of Psalm 2:7 were spoken – which was way before Jesus emptied himself to be made in the likeness of a human being.

John 10
35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

The words I underlined are the basic meaning of “anointed”. Jesus was “set apart” (anointed) by God BEFORE God sent him into the world.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Acts 10.38

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You make your own meanings for anointing?
I thought you relied on scripture?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Acts 13
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,23:16)

Hi T, Jesus became His spiritual son at the jordan You can follow him

Pierre said it scripturally, and correctly Nick:

“long ago before the event at the Jordan God at the plan to reconcile all things through Christ, even before he send his son down to be covered by flesh , is plan was set in motion”

Jesus was God's spiritual son before all of God's other spirit sons (the angels) were created THROUGH Jesus.  Long before the heavens and earth, and everything in them were created THROUGH Jesus.

And long before Jesus emptied himself to be made in the likeness of a human being.

You only WANT to see half of the story, and therefore only SEE half of the story.  I feel sorry for you, because you miss so much of what Jesus truly is, and what Jesus truly sacrificed for us.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Rom1
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Sonship is according to the Spirit

[mikeboll64]

Quote (gadam123 @ May 24 2014,00:48)

The birth narratives of Jesus never speak about his anointing…….

Adam, any scripture that speaks about the CHRIST being born is speaking about God's ANOINTED ONE being born.

Those scriptures never speak about the one WHO WILL SOMEDAY BE THE CHRIST being born.

He was the Christ (anointed one) before he was ever born on this earth.  

So you are in error, because those scriptures DO INDEED speak about Jesus as God's anointed one – long BEFORE his baptism.

Quote (gadam123 @ May 24 2014,00:48)

I don't see anything past or before creation of these things except in Epistles and John where his pre-existence mentioned indirectly which is being debated here in this forum.

It is not only John and Paul who speak about the pre-existence of Christ…….. but this is not the thread for it.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
None other was chosen to be the Christ and those enlightened with the Spirit of prophecy knew this.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,14:57)

Hi MB, You make your own meanings for anointing? I thought you relied on scripture?

To anoint can simply mean to put oil on something. But in the Bible, the word anoint means to use oil to consecrate, set apart, or dedicate in service to our LORD, and is the outward form of the actual work of the Holy Spirit. The oil is symbolic of the presence and work of the Holy Spirit.  From here.

In the Bible, people were anointed by the application of special oil. Anointing was frequently used to set apart objects or people for special use.  From here.

The anointing a person with oil is also a sign that God wants that person set apart.  From here.

3239 Holy Spirit, anointing of

“Anoint” means to set someone apart, to authorise and equip him or her for a task of spiritual importance. Jesus Christ is set apart by the work of the Holy Spirit for his ministry of preaching, healing and deliverance. The Holy Spirit sets Christians apart for their ministry in Christ’s name.  From
here.

But let me ask you, what is
“the anointing”. We talk about it all the time. We desire it. We pray for it.  But what is it exactly?
The most simple understanding of the anointing is to think of it as a “setting apart”. When God anoints something He sets it apart – it’s “holy” – separated for His use. From here.

Strong's Lexicon says:  a primitive root; to rub with oil, i.e. to anoint; by
implication, to consecrate;

2 Thessalonians 2:13 NET ©
But we ought to thank God always for you, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

Those who were baptized in Jesus' name and received the Holy Spirit were “anointed” by the Spirit, Nick.  But they had already been CHOSEN (anointed) by God from the beginning. The literal anointing (pouring on of oil or Spirit) is symbolic of the actual act of being anointed (chosen and set apart as special/holy).

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,15:14)

Hi MB, None other was chosen to be the Christ and those enlightened with the Spirit of prophecy knew this.

The Bible teaches about many christs, Nick. Jesus was the most special of them all.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Yes they were anointed by the Spirit.
Just as the firstborn was at the Jordan.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You have regard for other Christs?
Mt 24.24

[mikeboll64]

Read the long post Nick.

Then we can discuss this from an equal point of knowledge.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,15:50)

Hi MB, You have regard for other Christs? Mt 24.24

Moses was one of them. Shall we DISREGARD Moses?

Cyrus was also one of them. Shall we DISREGARD Cyrus, and the special purpose he played for God's nation?

How about King David? He was also one of them. Shall we DISREGARD him?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,15:49)

Hi MB, Yes they were anointed by the Spirit. Just as the firstborn was at the Jordan.

Yes, they were SYMBOLICALLY anointed by something later. But they were originally anointed (SET APART AS HOLY TO GOD) from the beginning.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Of course SET APART or CHOSEN do not mean ANOINTED
Separate issues

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Make your choice of Messiahs then.

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