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- May 12, 2015 at 8:47 pm#797241NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
Jn 8.58
“..Before Abraham was born I am”
The Word speaks
May 12, 2015 at 10:23 pm#797246kerwinParticipantEdJ,
Nick said:
Hi ED,
The serpent was already in the garden before the arrival of Adam.
You replied:
Scripture please
Animals were created before human beings.
Angels also game first and celebrated when God laid the foundations of the earth.
May 13, 2015 at 4:06 am#797258NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Yes the angels were there.jb 38
Gen 1 suggests animals first
Gen 2 suggests men.
Since gen 1 is chronological and gen 2 interpretative you are right.
May 13, 2015 at 12:18 pm#797302Ed JParticipantEdJ,
Nick said:
Hi ED,
The serpent was already in the garden before the arrival of Adam.
You replied:
Scripture please
Animals were created before human beings.
Angels also game first and celebrated when God laid the foundations of the earth.
Hi Kerwin,
It’s best to pay attention to what is being said.
The question was NOT were Angels created after .donkeysNick said that the serpent was in the garden before Adam was created – to which I replied:
Scripture please
Show me when the serpent was put in (or came into) the garden.
He may have came into the garden after Adam had been their a while.
The bible doesn’t say one way or the other, or does it? then please show me.____________
God bless
Ed JMay 13, 2015 at 12:28 pm#797304Ed JParticipantSimultaneously is always a possibility as well.
Maybe I should just go with you and Nick because you both (seem to) agree.
All I ask is you provide some evidence, with out it your opinion carries little value.You can ask Nick, every time I give a premise, I also provide
scriptural evidence which support the premise.That is all I ask for is “scriptural evidence” – well, do you have any?
_______________
God bless
Ed JMay 14, 2015 at 6:36 am#797372NickHassanParticipantHi Davidl,
What is your confession about Jesus Christ?
That he is God or the SON of God??
May 17, 2015 at 6:47 am#797589NickHassanParticipantHi,
The Word was with God.
Christ Jesus was in the form of God.
The Word was made flesh.
Now all men can be given the Spirit of Christ.
May 17, 2015 at 9:52 pm#797665NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus Christ proceeded forth AND came from God.
The WORD was with God and was God.
May 17, 2015 at 10:02 pm#797666NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.
The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
What was from the beginning
What we have heard
What we have seen with our eyes,
What we have looked at and touched with our hands,
concerning THE WORD OF LIFE-and the life was manifested
And we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the ETERNAL LIFE
Which was WITH the Father and was manifested to us.
What we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also,
so that you too may have fellowship with us
And indeed the fellowship is with the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
May 18, 2015 at 9:46 pm#797784NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh.
In him was light and life
May 19, 2015 at 6:32 am#797802kerwinParticipantED J,
Genesis 1 tells of how that were created in the land of Eden before mankind and therefore the serpent was there first.
The angels were around to celebrate when the foundations of the earth were set and therefore they existed before mankind.
The animal was there but as far as I know the angels stood far off and watched it on their superior version of television.
May 19, 2015 at 8:40 am#797819NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Yes the serpent was used by a satan to influence Eve using logic and inference.
Satans wish to be in a human vessel. They dwell in dry places till they can find one.
Using a serpent cost the serpent such that he was cursed to get around on his belly from then.
Satan is not one of his demons but is seen as being among the sons of God speaking with God in job1-3
Of course satan himself does not do the dirty work. He has an army that relies on obedience to him to be effective.
May 19, 2015 at 3:47 pm#797894NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus of Nazareth was made a vessel for the Holy Spirit. acts 2.22
The Word was made flesh and dwelled among us.
May 19, 2015 at 4:22 pm#797909NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
If you have become a Jew who is your shepherd?
Does the OT LAW rule you?
May 20, 2015 at 8:34 am#797979NickHassanParticipantHi,
So the man Jesus of Nazareth did not have ancient origins.
He was conceived in Mary and born in Bethlehem
The Spirit that indwelled him did.
May 20, 2015 at 9:38 am#797988kerwinParticipantNick,
If you have become a Jew who is your shepherd?
Does the OT LAW rule you?
You are still going beyond Scripture as Paul claimed that his religion after his conversion and that of the Jews was the same religion and yet you disagree with him. Consider your doctrine that you do not lead others astray.
May 20, 2015 at 9:40 am#797990kerwinParticipantNick,
Jesus Christ originated in the mind of God before the beginning of creation.
May 20, 2015 at 9:42 am#797992NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
So you sit on the fence.
The Law is a hard schoolmaster that demands perfection.
My yoke is easy. My burden is light
May 20, 2015 at 9:43 am#797993NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Nick,
Jesus Christ originated in the mind of God before the beginning of creation.
Any scriptures?
It seems we are always asking you this.
May 21, 2015 at 10:17 am#798071NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
So who is Jesus from your jewish religion perspective?
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