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- May 9, 2015 at 11:14 am#796870NickHassanParticipant
Hi ED,
All men are enlivened by the human spirit.
We are designed as vessels for the divine Spirit.
One sees us through 70-80 years or so.
The Holy Spirit gives us eternal life.
ECC 12.Jn 4, Jn7
We need to find the waters of life before the rope breaks and the bucket falls to the bottom of the well.
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May 9, 2015 at 11:39 am#796875Ed JParticipantEdj,
If Christ was established through Jesus’ glorification, HOW MAY I ASK COULD HAVE BEEN IN ADAM?
Charles,
The bible says that the spirit of Christ was in the Prophets. (ref. 1Peter 1:11)
We are having the same conversation in this thread as well…
PROOF of Jesus’ eternal past existencePlease Charles, let’s talk about this there.
Wake-up use to talk about the same stuff on every thread. And so does BD to an extent.
Having the same conversation on all the threads means you can’t find what you said,
because there are too many places to look for it. Thanks for your consideration!______________
God bless
Ed JMay 9, 2015 at 11:43 am#796876Ed JParticipanthi ED,
It is not written.
So it remains your own speculation.
What God has made plain is that the gift of His own Spirit transforms natural men.
And if men allow that divine Spirit to control them they become sons of God.
Such is the ultimate plan of God to allow us to become spiritually united with Him.
It arises out of our hopeless state of condemnation because of service to the god of this world.
Those who do not take up this offer remain under His wrath and become part of the dregs of creation.
Hi Nick,
Are you saying that is not the case before sin entered the world?
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God bless
Ed JMay 9, 2015 at 12:21 pm#796885NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
The serpent was already in the garden before the arrival of Adam.
What happened is a clear indication that in his natural state man is unable to deal with the god of this world.
Adam submitted to that god and rebelled against the True God cutting all his descendants off from the simple communion with God that he had enjoyed.
Sin in the flesh ruled men and only the work of God’s Spirit could rescue him from this state.
May 10, 2015 at 9:10 am#796958NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
So is your confession about Jesus that he was a godly being before his conception?
May 10, 2015 at 5:27 pm#797011Ed JParticipantHi ED,
The serpent was already in the garden before the arrival of Adam.
Scripture please
May 10, 2015 at 10:17 pm#797022NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
There is no word in genesis suggesting that the reverse is true.
The discussion in Gen 3 1f does not indicate this vessel was a newcomer any more than any other ‘beast of the field’ created in Gen 2.19 f
The serpent is identified as satan in Rev 12.9
May 11, 2015 at 11:18 am#797071NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Adam was CREATED before the serpent.
But the serpent was a vessel for the prince of this world who was before Adam.
May 12, 2015 at 6:56 am#797153NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Did Jesus exist before his conception?
May 12, 2015 at 7:11 am#797155NickHassanParticipantHi t8
CHRIST Jesus was .[phil2]
Jesus CHRIST is the same YESTERDAY, today and forever.
May 12, 2015 at 9:41 am#797168NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Jn7
.16
“.. My teaching is not mine but His Who sent me”
v18
“He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but he who seeks the glory of the One Who sent him, he is true, and there is no unrighteousness in him”
Christ Jesus spoke for the Father.
But men attribute his sayings to the man himself.
May 12, 2015 at 9:44 am#797170NickHassanParticipantHi ,
If Jesus was a mouthpiece for God why do men want to make him some sort of god?
May 12, 2015 at 9:49 am#797171NickHassanParticipantHi,
What was promised to us in Jn 14-16 was given to Jesus.
The Spirit of Christ and the spirit of truth in the one Holy Spirit.
But folks do not know the Spirit and attribute divine powers to the human vessel.
Strangely when the apostles and prophets raised the dead none of this attribution occurred.
Acts 2.22
May 12, 2015 at 9:57 am#797172NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jn6.38
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him Who sent me”
Jn 6.38
” For the bread of God is that which came down out of heaven, and gives life to the world’
jn6.51
“I am the living bread that came down from heaven..”
Man cannot live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God
Does anyone not realise that this is the WORD that is speaking through the vessel of Jesus?
May 12, 2015 at 10:09 am#797174NickHassanParticipantHi,
So this is the Spirit of The Son speaking[gal]
The Servant Spirit to God.
The Spirit of Christ.
May 12, 2015 at 10:15 am#797176NickHassanParticipantHi,
Folk seem happy to accept when evil spirits speak through the vessel of man such as the demonised man in the tombs conversing with Jesus.
However they are uncomfortable with the Holy Spirit doing so though Jesus Christ.
Yet he told us this happened.
May 12, 2015 at 1:48 pm#797185NickHassanParticipantHi,
John 8.22
“.. where I am going you cannot come”
and he was saying to them
“You are from below. I am from above;
you are of this world ;I am not of this world”
This is the WORD speaking through the anointed man Jesus.
May 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm#797188NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jn 8.42
“.IF GODWERE YOUR FATHER , YOU WOULD LOVE ME; FOR I PROCEEDED FORTH AND HAVE COME FROM GOD, FOR I HAVE NOT EVEN COME ON MY OWN INITIATIVE,BUT HE SENT ME”
THE WORD THAT WAS WITH GOD SPEAKS.
And men only hear the man
May 12, 2015 at 2:12 pm#797190NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jn 8.38
“I speak the things which I have seen with my Father..”
The Word was with God
May 12, 2015 at 2:42 pm#797194NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jn 17.24
“Father I desire that they also, whom Thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, in order that they may behold my glory which thou hast given me;
for thou didst love me before the foundation of the world”
The WORD was with God
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