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- May 5, 2015 at 11:47 am#796415NickHassanParticipant
Hi BD,
You are not qualified to interpret scripture to believers.
You feel you can correct the wisdom of God
May 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm#796418bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
You are not qualified to interpret scripture to believers.
You feel you can correct the wisdom of God
2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.May 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm#796419AndrewADParticipant2 Pet 1:20 is of no private interpretation except my own!
May 5, 2015 at 1:06 pm#796420NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You attempt to understand what is spiritual while correcting the Spirit?
May 5, 2015 at 1:57 pm#796425NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You might get some credibility if you did not rely just on your own opinion when interpreting single verses.
Far better to find witnesses 2 cor 13.1
May 5, 2015 at 2:22 pm#796427bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
You might get some credibility if you did not rely just on your own opinion when interpreting single verses.
Far better to find witnesses 2 cor 13.1
but even when I give you two, three, five or more witnesses you still do not believe
May 5, 2015 at 2:23 pm#796429Ed JParticipantHi BD,
Mary was Levite on her mother’s side and of Judah on her father’s side.
Mary’s lineage traces directly back to David (ref. Luke 3:31)
So Jesus was certainly not denying that.Jesus was instead putting emphasis on the fact that his spirit (the spirit of Christ)
was impregnated into Mary via God’s HolySpirit – making him the “Son of God”.
Mary’s lineage does trace back to David via Nathan (Son of David).Jesus was both the “Son of God” and the “Son of Man”.
“Son of God” – “Christ’s” Father is the HolySpirit
“Son of Man” – “Christ’s Mother was MaryChrist’s Mother Mary WAS NOT AARON’S SISTER – islam is a fraud
May 5, 2015 at 2:34 pm#796430bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
Mary was Levite on her mother’s side and of Judah on her father’s side.
Mary’s lineage traces directly back to David (ref. Luke 3:31)
So Jesus was certainly not denying that.Jesus was instead putting emphasis on the fact that his spirit (the spirit of Christ)
was impregnated into Mary via God’s HolySpirit – making him the “Son of God”.
Mary’s lineage does trace back to David via Nathan (Son of David).Jesus was both the “Son of God” and the “Son of Man”.
“Son of God” – “Christ’s” Father is the HolySpirit
“Son of Man” – “Christ’s Mother was MaryChrist’s Mother Mary WAS NOT AARON’S SISTER – islam is a fraud
EDJ your logic is so faulty because according to the scriptures of the Bible Adam was the son of God therefore if you want to do complete geneology biblical style there is no Son of Man. Christ has no Father. Christ was a spirit that proceeded from God and a Word from Him. Jesus Christ is son of Mary
Jesus was denying that because he was not born of the flesh: IT WAS A MIRACLE and if he is born in the similitude of ADAM then he like Adam is a direct creation of God. If Jesus is the Son of David then Jesus is the Son of Adam and if Adam is Son of God then Jesus is not God’s only begotten son.
May 5, 2015 at 2:37 pm#796431bodhithartaParticipantwas impregnated into Mary via God’s HolySpirit – making him the “Son of God”.
what makes Adam the son of God then?
May 5, 2015 at 2:38 pm#796432NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Your private interpretations are faulty
because you have no faith to base them on.
May 5, 2015 at 3:18 pm#796433kerwinParticipantNick,
It is written the flesh is born of flesh and spirit is born of Spirit.
I know it is true and so Jesus is the Son of Man because he was born of flesh and the Son of God because he was born of Spirit.
May 5, 2015 at 3:26 pm#796436NickHassanParticipanthi KW,
And
First the Natural
then
The Spiritual
May 5, 2015 at 3:32 pm#796437kerwinParticipantBodhitharta,
It is not an important issue to me but the fact is, if he was asking a question to learn how, he would not given an answer to teach them his view was correct:
Jesus was teaching by asking the question. His goal was to get his listeners to come up with the answer themselves. It is the Socratic method. In one example Socrates is said to have use 50 questions to teach a slave to draw a rectangle with twice the area as the one he was presented with. A study using it displayed that despite the evidence human nature has not changed over those thousands of years only 50% of the students were successful at learning.
It is reasonable that his listeners even knew what he was doing as there were Hellenistic influences in their society.
May 5, 2015 at 3:42 pm#796439Ed JParticipantHi BD,
Mary was Levite on her mother’s side and of Judah on her father’s side.
Mary’s lineage traces directly back to David (ref. Luke 3:31)
So Jesus was certainly not denying that.Jesus was instead putting emphasis on the fact that his spirit (the spirit of Christ)
was impregnated into Mary via God’s HolySpirit – making him the “Son of God”.
Mary’s lineage does trace back to David via Nathan (Son of David).Jesus was both the “Son of God” and the “Son of Man”.
“Son of God” – “Christ’s” Father is the HolySpirit
“Son of Man” – “Christ’s Mother was MaryChrist’s Mother Mary WAS NOT AARON’S SISTER – islam is a fraud
EDJ your logic is so faulty because according to the scriptures of the Bible Adam was the son of God therefore if you want to do complete geneology biblical style there is no Son of Man. Christ has no Father. Christ was a spirit that proceeded from God and a Word from Him. Jesus Christ is son of Mary
Jesus was denying that because he was not born of the flesh: IT WAS A MIRACLE and if he is born in the similitude of ADAM then he like Adam is a direct creation of God. If Jesus is the Son of David then Jesus is the Son of Adam and if Adam is Son of God then Jesus is not God’s only begotten son.
Hi BD,
I’m surprised just how shallow your thinking is.
“Son of Man” means “Son of Mankind”
– and –
“Son of God” means Son of God’s SpiritWhen are you going to get this?
Ed JMay 5, 2015 at 3:52 pm#796444kerwinParticipantNick,
The Natural was first created on the Fifth Night and Day and the Spiritual was first created on the Sixth Night and Day. Some claim Adam was first created a natural creature and then made a Spiritual creature. I do not know if it is true but the way a child is formed in their mother’s womb may support that claim.
May 5, 2015 at 3:55 pm#796447bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
Your private interpretations are faulty
because you have no faith to base them on.
who has the greater faith the one who believes God is Almighty and can SAVE anyone including Christ Jesus
or the one that believes that God cannot save anyone except through Jesus Christ and also cannot save Jesus ChristIt seems your Faith is based on everything that “can’t” happen and mines is based on everything that “can” happen
May 5, 2015 at 4:02 pm#796450Ed JParticipantthe spirit of Christ was impregnated into Mary via God’s HolySpirit – making him the “Son of God”.
what makes Adam the son of God then?
Hi BD,
We have been through this before remember?
Adam became the Son of God when God breathed of his spirit into Adam.
Jesus was born the Son of God because the spirit of Christ was breathed into Mary’s conception.Adam was never a baby as far as I know.
It’s God’s spirit breathed into us that makes us Son to God.
”Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts” (Zech 4:6)____________
God bless
Ed JMay 5, 2015 at 4:10 pm#796454Ed JParticipantNick,
It is written the flesh is born of flesh and spirit is born of Spirit.
I know it is true and so Jesus is the Son of Man because he was born of flesh and the Son of God because he was born of Spirit.
Yes Kerwin,
Very simple, why do people try to muddy the waters?
Born of flesh – Mary
Born of Spirit – GodTwo parents – not just one as BD is comprising.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODMay 5, 2015 at 4:38 pm#796460bodhithartaParticipant@Nate
Adam became the Son of God when God breathed of his spirit into Adam.
Jesus was born the Son of God because the spirit of Christ was breathed into Mary’s conception.So in both csaes God breathed into one of His creations to create another? Adam was from the created earth and Mary also was from the created earth, right?
May 5, 2015 at 4:40 pm#796461bodhithartaParticipantSo how many parents does Adam have?
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