Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #809931
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    The Spirit of Christ was never born.

    The word was with God and was God in the beginning.

    #809932
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Jesus was born at Bethlehem. No argument?

    So why do you say the Spirit of Christ was born there?

    #809933
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    The Spirit of Christ was never born.

    Say what?

    “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus
    Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. (2John 1:7)

    Of course “the spirit of Christ” was born:
    From eternity to Bethlehem (Micah 5:2)
    Christ born in Bethlehem (Luke 2:11)

    Conclusion:
    It was the Spirit of God that came to Christ at Jordan,
    “The spirit of Christ” (named Jesus) was born in Bethlehem.

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #809934
    Ed J
    Participant

    “And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth
    the Spirit of his Son into your hearts,
    crying, Abba, Father.” (Gal 4:6)

    WE will come to him and make OUR abode with them:
    1. The spirit of God (=Father)
    2. The spirit of Christ (=Son)

    #809935
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Now the Lord is the Spirit.

    We, the Spirit of Christ in the Spirit of God, will come to you.

    But the Spirit of Christ was not born but the blessed vessel for that prophesised Spirit was.

     

    #809936
    Ed J
    Participant

    He whose goings have been from everlasting shall come forth out of thee Bethlehem. (ref. Micah 5:2)

    For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess that Jesus was not
    Christ come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. (ref 2John 1:7)

    #809937
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Jesus was born at Bethlehem. No argument?

    So why do you say the Spirit of Christ was born there?

    Hi Nick,

    I told you at least four times now: because
    Micah 5:2 says Christ came from eternity to Bethlehem

    #809938
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Why is this so hard for you to grasp? Christ made it
    abundantly clear who fathered his spirit…

    Father please open Nick’s eyes that he may see

    “And he(Christ) said unto them, How say they that Christ is David’s son? And David himself
    saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD (JEHOVAH) said unto my Lord (spirit of Christ),
    Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    David therefore calleth him(spirit of Christ) Lord,
    how is he(spirit of Christ) then his(David’s) son?” (Luke 20:41-44)

    Answer:
    The spirit of Christ is not David’s son,
    but rather the HolySpirit’s Son.

    #809939
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    All this has nothing to do with the birth of a man in Bethlehem.

    Jesus was a normal man who was born of Mary.

    #809941
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Do you deny Jesus was a man of body soul and spirit?

     

    We who follow him can say our spirit agrees with the Holy Spirit as Paul said in Romans 8.

    But you want him to be a different kind of man with no human spirit. Yet he lost his spirit at Calvary when he died.

     

    #809942
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Do you deny Jesus was a man of body soul and spirit?

    Hi Nick,

    No

    #809943
    Ed J
    Participant

    Yet he lost his spirit at Calvary when he died.

    Hi Nick,

    Will you loose your spirit when you die? y/n

    #809947
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    So if I were to use YOUR LOGIC the dictionary proves the trinity.

    No, since the dictionary only provides the definition of words and even then even the best ones do a lousy job at times.

    6.(Theol.) Among Trinitarians, one of the three subdivisions of the Godhead (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost); an hypostasis.

    The Trinitarians did not start out using a unique definition of person but it evolved from the known definition of “A living, self-conscious being, as distinct from an animal or a thing; a moral agent. For those that do not acknowledge either angels, spirits, demons, or God human beings are the only one that fit the bill.

    I am not sure Trintarians have changed their definition or just put it in harder to understand words like hypostasis.

    So according to Trinitarian God is three living, self-conscious beings while still being just one being. It is a broken teaching and those that believe in it worship a God of confusion.

    Don’t let their error lead you astray but instead behave honorable in all things and freely admit that if a word is defined in a certain way then it is defined that way. But do not allow others to put their meaning to your words unless they do so in a manner to advance the truth.

    My source is for the definitions of person I gave are from a version of webster’s.

    #809949
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Yes.

    The body without the spirit is dead.

    The promise is for the soul to be kept alive by the indwelling and immortal Spirit of life

    #809953
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Dd Abraham, Isaac and Jacob die?

    Their deaths are recorded but they are yet alive to God.

    Nathan died and was just asleep to be awakened by the witch of Endor.

    Do you not believe Jesus died as is recorded many times in scripture?

     

    if so then you cannot believe in the resurrection and your faith is in vain.

    There are some standing here who will be live when I return.

     

    Death where is thy sting.

     

    #809970
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Yes.

    The body without the spirit is dead.

    The promise is for the soul to be kept alive by the indwelling and immortal Spirit of life

    Hi Nick,

    You can consider me wrong if you wish, but I consider the spirit within you
    to be the Nick Hassan I know, rather than the husk you now occupy.
    You don’t loose your spirit, but instead you loose your body.

    _________________
    God Bless
    Ed J

    #809971
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin,

    When you say the person of God – you mean the person of “God the Father”; right? y/n

    “Yes” – “No” – “I don’t know”

    And please don’t make up a different question to answer!

    ________________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #809972
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You may do as you wish but my hope is to follow the Master into victory over death by the indwelling Spirit.

    Like Paul I say who will free me from the body of this death.

     

    #809977
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    There is but one God and that is the Father of us all. So yes, God is a self aware and rational being, i.e. person.

    #810002
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Scripture teaches that Jesus of Nazareth was a normal man with a human spirit who received the Holy Spirit.

    He died at calvary and his own spirit left him.

    But you teach that he was not a normal man but one born without a human spirit and born with the Holy Spirit.

     

    Should we prefer your ideas to what is written?

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