Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #812835
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    Why did you not quote the verse before analysing it?

    #812836
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    Perhaps your problem is that you thought it was the spirit of a human instead of An aspect of the Spirit of God?

    #812839
    terraricca
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    Nick

    show me that I was wrong with the scriptures first per ups you are wrongly interpreting the scriptures ,always prove your point with scriptures not with opinions

    #812846
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    Jesus was born at Bethlehem.

    He was only said to be FULL OF THE SPIRIT after the Jordan.

    Lk 4

    #812856
    terraricca
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    N

    Lk 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
    because he has anointed me
    to preach good news to the poor.
    He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
    and recovery of sight for the blind,
    to release the oppressed,
    Lk 4:19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
    Lk 4:20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him,
    Lk 4:21 and he began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

    can’t let go the man’s teachings ,

    #812868
    Ed J
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    Hi,

    Jesus was born at Bethlehem.

    He was only said to be FULL OF THE SPIRIT after the Jordan.

    Lk 4

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

    #812869
    Ed J
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    Hi t,

    Perhaps your problem is that you thought it was the spirit of a human instead of An aspect of the Spirit of God?

    Hi Nick

    Perhaps your problem is that you thought “the spirit of Christ” arrived at the Jordan instead of Bethlehem.

    #812870
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,

    You are determined to push your one verse dogma

    it is yours

    #812873
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,

    You have yet to explain and show evidence of when Jesus was FIRST anointed.

    We have also yet to hear whether he had a human spirit as well as the anointing Spirit.

    please answer

    #812876
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    It seems odd that you would castigate the JWs for using one verse to claim Jesus is Michael.

    But then you try and do the same yourself with micah 5

    #812879
    terraricca
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    how can Jesus the son of God be without his own spirit ?

    how could he be different in spirit by being the anointed one ?

    was king David another man when he became king ? no,

    when i was born i did not know anything but as i grew i learn and when i read the bible i found my road ,and follow it but i was the same person but on a different road ,

    ?

    #812882
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,

    Exactly.

    For someone to be anointed they need to be alive by a human spirit.

    The body without a spirit is dead as James said.

     

    Of course after death unless one has the anointing Spirit they await judgement.

    There is no condemnation for those who have passed over from death to life.

    Rom 12. Jn 5

    #812889
    terraricca
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    Nick

    but Jesus came down from heaven as a being ,(with all his own spirit and mind)to give up his perfect sinless live for all men ,

    and so his purpose was to do just that ,and he did just that but he also trained 11 disciples and these came to be man regular men ,and they followed him

    for he give them the hope of the faith the have live for as Jews ,

    their message his the same that they received from the son of God ,what as been spread all over the world ,and those that are of the good seed produce the real changes in their lives for that is what the written word of God does to those that really believe in it ,

    then they produce fruits of their own but all the fruits are the same only the reapers have changed,for God is the same always and his truth never changes

    #812891
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    So you think a divine being somehow convinced ordinary men to become extraordinary and heal and raise the dead.

    You have no idea of the work of the Spirit do you?

    #812897
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    (1) You have yet to explain and show evidence of when Jesus was FIRST anointed.

    (2) We have also yet to hear whether he had a human spirit as well as the anointing Spirit.

    please answer

    Hi Nick,

    1) I have explained and shown much evidence already, but you ears are not yet open to it.
    2) Jesus was born “the Spirit of Christ” – he did not have the spirit of Adam.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812898
    Ed J
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    Hi Ed,

    (1) It seems odd that you would castigate the JWs for using one verse to claim Jesus is Michael.

    (2) But then you try and do the same yourself with micah 5

    Hi Nick,

    1) They use more than one verse to make their assertion, the problem is
    they ignore all the verses that contradict their conclusion (just like you).

    2) There are many verses that corroborate what Micah 5:2 says and none to annul it.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812899
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    There are no other verses that say what you think Micah says.

    That suggests you are wrong in your interpretation.

    #812900
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    There are no other verses that say what you think Micah says.

    FALSE

    #812901
    Ed J
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    That suggests you are wrong in your interpretation.

    No Nick,

    Micah 5:2 suggests YOU are wrong with your private interpretation of Prophecy.
    “no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation” (2 Peter 1:20)

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #812902
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    There are no other verses that say what you think Micah says.

    Hi Nick,

    Here are just some of the verses that corroborates what Micah 5:2 says:
    Bethlehem, the city where Christ was born, means “House of Bread”
    “I am the bread which came down from heaven” (John 6:41)

    “the Father hath sent me” (John 5:36)
    “I came down from heaven” (John 6:38)

    “God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son” (Gal 4:6)

    “my Father hath sent me” (John 20:21)
    “I came down from heaven” (John 6:42)

    “Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life” (John 6:35)
    “I am the living bread which came down from heaven” (John 6:51)

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    God bless
    Ed J

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