Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #812769
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Because you have found NO scriptures that SAY THE SAME THING as Micah 5.2 does

    you are stuck with a PRIVATE INTERPRETATION by claiming to understand it.

    #812770
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Those who have been beheaded are those who have submitted to the headship of Jesus Christ.

    They have accepted and preached the testimony of the new and old testaments.

    #812771
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    you should know for the spirit should have told you this ;
    Mic 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
    though you are small among the clans of Judah,
    out of you will come for me
    one who will be ruler over Israel,
    whose origins are from of old,
    from ancient times.’”

    Jn 7:42 Does not the Scripture say that the Christ will come from David’s family and from Bethlehem, the town where David lived?”

    Mt 2:4 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Christ was to be born.
    Mt 2:5 “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied, “for this is what the prophet has written:
    Mt 2:6 “ ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
    are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
    for out of you will come a ruler
    who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.’’”

    it shows you do not are either reborn nor have the spirit

    #812772
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Yes you would think that.

    And the messiah was born in Bethlehem as prophesied

    #812780
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    You mix up APPOINTMENT

    with the anointing.

    As do many.

    #812783
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Because you have found NO scriptures that SAY THE SAME THING as Micah 5.2 does

    you are stuck with a PRIVATE INTERPRETATION by claiming to understand it.

    Not true Nick,

    I have given you much corroborating evidence, but
    in each and every case you were dismissing them outright
    because they did not match your preconceived ideas of truth.
    And now amnesia has set in and you say I have not shown you any.
    But this is not true as I have shown you much corroborating evidence.

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #812785
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    You do not understand 2Cor 13.1 then either.

    verses must say the SAME THING to be regarded as proofs.

    Corroboration is in the eye of the beholder

    #812786
    Ed J
    Participant

    “I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for
    (1)the witness of Jesus,
    and for
    (2)the word of God”
    (Rev 20:4)

    1. The witness of Jesus
    2. “The Word” of God

    Hi Nick,

    So then you agree that they are two different things – good you are making progress then.

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #812787
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Hi T,

    You mix up APPOINTMENT

    with the anointing.

    As do many.
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    show me that there was an appointment ?

    Jesus came at the right time but why was he baptized or was he really baptized ? or just anointed as all king in Israel hat to be ,

    but why did he go J the Bt ? Jn 1:26 “I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands one you do not know.
    Jn 1:27 He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.”

    Jn 1:33 I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’
    Jn 1:34 I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God.”

    you mist all of this like most do

    #812788
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    Jesus told us CHRIST means MESSIAH.

    The long awaited prophesied messiah was born in Bethlehem.

    #812789
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Did you not realise the messiah was prophesied?

    And Jesus was the appointed vessel.

    #812790
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Those who had the Spirit recognised him.

    Even pagan astrologers knew about him.

    But carnal folks still misunderstand

    #812793
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    christ /messiah/anointed all the same thing

    you say;Those who had the Spirit recognised him.

    wrong all those that believed in the truth and live by it did wait for him , big difference

    #812795
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Are you saying John the Baptist did not have the Spirit?

    #812796
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Jn 14.26

    But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name,

    He will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance

    all I have said to you

    #812799
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    the words from Jesus were Not said for John the baptist ,

    for he was a born prophet and walked with God all his life ,the spirit that he received was the spirit of a prophet

    #812802
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy.

    The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets.

    #812812
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    you have it wrong again you said ;The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets.

    how could they have it ,they did not understand what they were writhing ;

    but this ;The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy. ;is correct

    but do you understand it ?

    #812829
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Do you now deny 1 Peter 1.11?

    #812831
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    searching for the day of the coming of the anointed one was their concern ,in this way yes their spirit /heart/mind was working for answers ,

    but like Jesus said it was for his time disciples that they had prophesied ,not for their time ,

    so pay attention to what Peter really says

    this is why the angel says in revelation THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF THE PROPHECY ” for each prophet had given some testimony of the coming of the anointed one ,but themselves did not understood what it was ,beside that it was very important ,because it came from God

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