Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

[Ed J]

Micah 5:2 “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah,
though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me
that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from of old,
from everlasting.”

Ed

show me that this is according to the scriptures and not one of your opinions ok

Hi Pierre,

Micah 5:2 (listed above) is the Prophecy – Luke 2:11 (listed below) is the fulfillment of Micah 5:2.

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)

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God bless
Ed J

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Ed

yes it is

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

And President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu Hawaii.

 

Psst

Does that state that he was a president when he was born?

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N

anything that man made is not of God

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

The Messiah was born in Bethlehem.

All set to serve God after his anointing at the Jordan.

 

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N

the anointed one had to wait for the time and readiness to do the work of his father ,when the time was right the anointed one went to John
the baptist that was send prior to the anointed one and so be recognized to be the true anointed one ,this was then declared by John the baptist publicly

just as it was fortold

[Ed J]

From everlasting to Bethlehem Nick.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Yes in the beginning the Word was with God and was God.

That Word was made flesh at the Jordan.

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Nick

so God is not with some one but with himself ?

and why would John say that ,when in scriptures it says already; LK 18:19 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.

also “no one is like him”

you seem not study the scriptures to deep when it covers your view ,hmmm

I have learn that no one that is with someone is that same one that he his with , and yes John 1;1 should be “a god” because it fit with all other scriptures and does not break any ; on the other hand you have to interpret all the scriptures that talks about Jesus and make him a spirit rather than a being just has the scriptures says he his ,

look the first quote from t8 for the scriptures that you and those alike deny

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

It is all about the Spirit.

The Spirit of Christ proceeds from God.

As the Spirit said through Jesus

“I proceeded forth and came from God”

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Nick

it was a man that came to J the Bpt so he was already covered with flesh ,

stop inventing stories just because you have been deceived don’t deceive others

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Yes the man was conceived in Mary and born in Bethlehem.

But the Spirit did not have flesh till made one with the man at the Jordan river.

It is all about the Spirit rather than the man. Flesh contributes nothing and cannot inherit the kingdom.

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Yes both Mary and her son were chosen for this purpose by God.

Neither were any different to you and I.

 

The work is of God and the glory belongs to Him.

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Nick
Hi t,

Yes both Mary and her son were chosen for this purpose by God.

Neither were any different to you and I.

1)The work is of God and the glory belongs to Him.;;this is true
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if Jesus is as you say then the scriptures are lying or you do but not both

Ps 49:1 Hear this, all you peoples;
listen, all who live in this world,
Ps 49:2 both low and high,
rich and poor alike:
Ps 49:3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom;
the utterance from my heart will give understanding.
Ps 49:4 I will turn my ear to a proverb;
with the harp I will expound my riddle:

Ps 49:5 Why should I fear when evil days come,
when wicked deceivers surround me—
Ps 49:6 those who trust in their wealth
and boast of their great riches?
Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.

Ps 49:10 For all can see that wise men die;
the foolish and the senseless alike perish
and leave their wealth to others.
Ps 49:11 Their tombs will remain their houses forever,
their dwellings for endless generations,
though they had named lands after themselves.

Ps 49:12 But man, despite his riches, does not endure;
he is like the beasts that perish.

Ps 49:13 This is the fate of those who trust in themselves,
and of their followers, who approve their sayings.

Selah

Ps 49:14 Like sheep they are destined for the grave,
and death will feed on them.
The upright will rule over them in the morning;
their forms will decay in the grave,
far from their princely mansions.
Ps 49:15 But God will redeem my life from the grave;
he will surely take me to himself.

until you also accept all the scriptures regarding the true preexistence of the son of God you have no faith,

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Yes.

So God sent the Spirit of the son to forever inhabit a man.

Christ died that you might live.

 

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Gal 4.4

But when the fullness of the time came God sent forth His son, born of a woman, born under the law

so that He might redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.

Because you are sons he sent forth the Spirit of the son into our hearts ,crying

Abba!Father!

 

Do you believe this?

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n
YOU ARE A DREAMER AND A DECEIVER answer my questions or go away you have no truth in you

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

So others are dreamers, deceiver and twisters of the truth?

Are you sure you are right?

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hi Nick

Yes.

So God sent the Spirit of the son to forever inhabit a man.

Christ died that you might live.
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show me this in scriptures that it is not a being but the spirit of God that was sent ?

if Jesus is as you say then the scriptures are lying or you do but not both

Ps 49:1 Hear this, all you peoples;
listen, all who live in this world,
Ps 49:2 both low and high,
rich and poor alike:
Ps 49:3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom;
the utterance from my heart will give understanding.
Ps 49:4 I will turn my ear to a proverb;
with the harp I will expound my riddle:

Ps 49:5 Why should I fear when evil days come,
when wicked deceivers surround me—
Ps 49:6 those who trust in their wealth
and boast of their great riches?
Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.

Ps 49:10 For all can see that wise men die;
the foolish and the senseless alike perish
and leave their wealth to others.
Ps 49:11 Their tombs will remain their houses forever,
their dwellings for endless generations,
though they had named lands after themselves.

Ps 49:12 But man, despite his riches, does not endure;
he is like the beasts that perish.

Ps 49:13 This is the fate of those who trust in themselves,
and of their followers, who approve their sayings.

Selah

Ps 49:14 Like sheep they are destined for the grave,
and death will feed on them.
The upright will rule over them in the morning;
their forms will decay in the grave,
far from their princely mansions.
Ps 49:15 But God will redeem my life from the grave;
he will surely take me to himself.

until you also accept all the scriptures regarding the true preexistence of the son of God you have no faith,

Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.

you say that Jesus lied here ;amazing ,unbelievable ,and you call yourself a believer ? in what ?

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

So those that do not accept your unbiblical claims have no faith.

Perhaps none of us are WORTHY to speak with you.

gal 4.4-6

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